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The Irishman

Came home from the Pitt game Saturday.

Wanted nothing to do with football so I watched the movie.

Solid, well done. A little long but I liked very much
 
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Watched it this weekeNd, agreed it is GOOD. But I was expecting it to be GREAT, based on the hype and anticipation..

This was my thought. Way to long as well. I liked it, but it didn't meet the criteria for me wanting to rewatch it
 
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I have not yet seen the movie, so I can’t specifically comment on it. However, all of these directors/actors are well, well past their respective primes. As such, of course it wasn’t going to be as great as it would have been whenever they were all in their respective primes.

Still, if you get a legitimately good film out of a bunch of guys in their 70s and 80s, that’s truly exceptional.

Now, I need to actually watch it to make sure that it’s really even good or is it just good because we want it to be good based on how great these actors were 40 and 50 years ago?
 
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Enjoyed it too, family went to bed...and then I didn’t until 1:30...wow was it long!
That's exactly what I did Thanksgiving eve. Everyone left and went to bed, I watched it to 2:00AM.

If you like Goodfellas, you will especially like this. But Goodfellas was much better. But I think it was the best DeNiro, Pacino and Pesci has acted in years.
 
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I have not yet seen the movie, so I can’t specifically comment on it. However, all of these directors/actors are well, well past their respective primes. As such, of course it wasn’t going to be as great as it would have been whenever they were all in their respective primes.

Still, if you get a legitimately good film out of a bunch of guys in their 70s and 80s, that’s truly exceptional.

Now, I need to actually watch it to make sure that it’s really even good or is it just good because we want it to be good based on how great these actors were 40 and 50 years ago?
The acting by those 70s and 80 s guys was excellent. One thing you can't bitch about in that movie was the acting. I liked it because I lived those Jimmy Hoffa days and the background insight was interesting.
 
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The acting by those 70s and 80 s guys was excellent. One thing you can't bitch about in that movie was the acting. I liked it because I lived those Jimmy Hoffa days and the background insight was interesting.
watching deniro beat up the grocery market owner was pretty cringe worthy. not as bad as sonny throwing phantom punches at Carlo on the sidewalk but pretty bad.

But yes, outside of that scene, great cast and very entertaining..
 
If you like Goodfellas, you will especially like this. But Goodfellas was much better. But I think it was the best DeNiro, Pacino and Pesci has acted in years.
It was "good", good story, good plot, the OLD GUYS did what these guys do, they played their stereotypical roles to the hilt. It was Goodfellas and Casino, but nowhere near as good. But still solid. The main thing I didn't like about it was when they where trying to pass off DiNiro and Pesci as young guys after WW2, that was painful! DiNiro was supposed to be a YOUNG WW2 vet trucker, maybe 25-30 years old, so they blackened his hair and made him look no younger than 50, it would have been better to find young look a likes, like they did for Henry and Tommy in Goodfellas, they weren't believable as that young.
 
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It was "good", good story, good plot, the OLD GUYS did what these guys do, they played their stereotypical roles to the hilt. It was Goodfellas and Casino, but nowhere near as good. But still solid. The main thing I didn't like about it was when they where trying to pass off DiNiro and Pesci as young guys after WW2, that was painful! DiNiro was supposed to be a YOUNG WW2 vet trucker, maybe 25-30 years old, so they blackened his hair and made him look no younger than 50, it would have been better to find young look a likes, like they did for Henry and Tommy in Goodfellas, they weren't believable as that young.
Yeah. That was exactly my biggest problem. In fact in another thread, I said a "young" DeNiro looked like his Raging Bull character more than a young guy.
 
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The acting by those 70s and 80 s guys was excellent. One thing you can't bitch about in that movie was the acting. I liked it because I lived those Jimmy Hoffa days and the background insight was interesting.

Thought it was enjoyable and worth the 3 1/2 hours to watch it.

If you want to read a good work of fiction about the CIA that delves into those times and many of the issues and things speculated about in "The Irishman" (Cuba/Bay of Pigs, Kennedy assassination, Mafia in the Hoffa era) , get "Harlot's Ghost" by Norman Mailer. 1300+ pages, so it'll fill up a few of those snowy winter days when you're looking for something to do. ;)
 
It’s based on the book “ I heard you paint houses” which I need to read first before watching
 
Thought it was enjoyable and worth the 3 1/2 hours to watch it.

If you want to read a good work of fiction about the CIA that delves into those times and many of the issues and things speculated about in "The Irishman" (Cuba/Bay of Pigs, Kennedy assassination, Mafia in the Hoffa era) , get "Harlot's Ghost" by Norman Mailer. 1300+ pages, so it'll fill up a few of those snowy winter days when you're looking for something to do. ;)
Thanks. Sounds like something I would enjoy.
 
I have not yet seen the movie, so I can’t specifically comment on it. However, all of these directors/actors are well, well past their respective primes. As such, of course it wasn’t going to be as great as it would have been whenever they were all in their respective primes.

Still, if you get a legitimately good film out of a bunch of guys in their 70s and 80s, that’s truly exceptional.

Now, I need to actually watch it to make sure that it’s really even good or is it just good because we want it to be good based on how great these actors were 40 and 50 years ago?
Let me just comment on the well past their primes....Pesci and Deniro were magnificent in this movie. Pesci in particular. Better than anything they've done recently

With that said, this movie is basically Goodfellas told about a different guy. It's the same movie. The main character narrating the movie and flashing back through his life the same. Nothing groundbreaking here, but still - I enjoy these type of movies
 
That's exactly what I did Thanksgiving eve. Everyone left and went to bed, I watched it to 2:00AM.

If you like Goodfellas, you will especially like this. But Goodfellas was much better. But I think it was the best DeNiro, Pacino and Pesci has acted in years.
Wow. I did the same thing. Kind of...

We sat down to watch it Thanksgiving evening, got halfway through it and none of us finished it. I thought it was slow, it never really picked up, and I have no current interest in finishing it. And I’m as big of a Goodfellas guy as anyone.

I’d like to get my 15 year old son to watch goodfellas. But after he gave the Irishman a try, I’m going to have a tough time motivating him to sit down for Goodfellas.

Btw, @Zeldas Open Roof, we all cringed and then laughed at the grocery store “beat down” too. They needed a stunt double for that. Not only did DeNiro struggle to look the part, but he didn’t connect on one kick. It was like a bad 80’s WWF match. Not one kick was within a foot of its target.
 
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I think one of the big factors in our discussion here is the timing.

I wonder if people would like The Irishman more if it came first and then Goodfellas.

It's kind of like, whoever replaces Tom Brady will forever be labeled.
 
I think one of the big factors in our discussion here is the timing.

I wonder if people would like The Irishman more if it came first and then Goodfellas.

It's kind of like, whoever replaces Tom Brady will forever be labeled.
It’s not good, it’s ok. People just hear names like deniro, Pesci, and Scorsese and they think it has to be great, even when it’s not.


I watched an awkward deniro who looked like the kid from “mask” trying to play a 35 year old and it was laughable.

to even put this in the same category as goodfellas is ignorant ur lazy, or both. It’s not even in same category as casino.
 
This wasn't a bad movie by any means, but it was an inferior version of Hoffa and an inferior version of Goodfellas at the same time. And we already had the inferior version of Goodfellas in Casino.

I did think it would copy the Casino ending in terms of corporations taking over where the mob left off and that would have been interesting (that's what actually happened to the Teamsters pension fund -- Guilani did a great job busting up the mob but then gave the pension to wall street to manage, and they promptly stole from it in the white collar way.)

i miss the Scorcese going against type to make odd, interesting, creative choices like Hugo or Kundun.
 
I’d like to get my 15 year old son to watch goodfellas. But after he gave the Irishman a try, I’m going to have a tough time motivating him to sit down for Goodfellas.

Btw, @Zeldas Open Roof, we all cringed and then laughed at the grocery store “beat down” too. They needed a stunt double for that. Not only did DeNiro struggle to look the part, but he didn’t connect on one kick. It was like a bad 80’s WWF match. Not one kick was within a foot of its target.

C'mon Man? Goodfellas is SOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO much better, and never slow or boring! Something is always POPPNG in that movie! F-U PAY ME! It's not the same at all, other than the format. tell your son it's nothing as slow as this one.

The biggest mistake they made in The Irishman was letting DiNiro and Peschi play their younger selves, they should of gotten some young guy lookalikes for those segments, like in Goodfellas, where they had those two young kids play young Henry and young Tommy.
 
I think one of the big factors in our discussion here is the timing.

I wonder if people would like The Irishman more if it came first and then Goodfellas.

It's kind of like, whoever replaces Tom Brady will forever be labeled.
NOOOOOOOOOOOOOO! Goodfellas is head and shoulders above this one! It's not even close.
 
NOOOOOOOOOOOOOO! Goodfellas is head and shoulders above this one! It's not even close.
No, I get that's what you said, I mean you're son needs to know that, I knew that was your feeling.
 
Sorry, I just get tired of people who don't know me, and don't know what my job is, acting like I don't do anything, when the truth really is, they couldn't do my job.
 
and by the way, F-U, my "government job" is as difficult and rigorous as any job you may have ever done, you couldn't do my job without at least a decade of training.
Not knocking your job. I’m ribbing you for you’re reading comprehension. I said that after watching the Irishman I may have a hard time getting my son to watch Goodfellas because THE IRISHMAN was slow. I also said that I’m as big of a Goodfellas guy as anyone, which translates to there may not be a bigger Goodfellas fan than me.

Maybe the problem isn’t your comprehension and that you just simply shouldn’t read these boards while you work.
 
Sorry, I just get tired of people who don't know me, and don't know what my job is, acting like I don't do anything, when the truth really is, they couldn't do my job.
You should probably relax. No reason to be volatile. We are all men here. Mostly.
 
I really cringed during the first half. Agreed with those that have said they just should have had younger actors play those roles.

But the second half, from the award ceremony on, I thought was really great stuff. The various scenes between Pesci/Pacino, De Niro/Pacino and Pesci/De Niro were a master class in acting
 
to get off the beaten path here for a sec, i really enjoyed "Bad Blood" with regards to mafia movies not named, goodfellas, casino, GF and Bronx tale.

Netflix mini series that talked about true mafia of Montreal i think. pretty good if no one saw it. basically the mafia covering the ports and drug trade. this dude got different groups together to all work with the distribution trade.

it's pretty well done, can binge watch it in a day or two.. good cast..
 
Finally saw it. Not what I expected.
A little too slow moving and bit too long.
Nothing like Goodfellas, Departed or GONY.
A pretty interesting story told by old guys portrayed by some of greatest actors of all time.
Din't notice computer stuff much but physically couldn't hide at times they are 80.
Why did he pick that guy to play RFK?
Felt more like watching a broadway live play or an acting class than a movie.
Would put it right below Scorcese's top group of movies.
 
The flashbacks of DeNiro's character when he was supposed to be 25 or whatever screwed it up for me. Then I couldn't figure out what time period they were in. And I could never figure out how old Pesci's character was supposed to be because he looked the same age in all the time periods.
 
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