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The New Pitt Stadium - Over 110,000 views!

Great relationship with the Rooneys? They're great as long as they get their way-just ask the city. Not having an on campus stadium is a detriment. Having to play all those noon games which kill attendance because of conflicts with the Pirates games is reason enough to get the hell out of Heinz. There's no greater advantage than having control of your own destiny and that includes where you play.
I thought that television determined our game times. No?
 
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Well today they probably wouldn't get a cent from the state but this isn't going to happen overnight..., time will tell. Pitt has done a terrible job targeting and courting big money donors for athletics. Pitt has a huge academic endowment which can be used on the academic side for the purposes you cite. My daughter is a soph at Pitt and I'm not of the impression that the housing situation is dire-seniors don't have rights to university housing.
Del - you do realize almost all endowed money is targeted? Pitt absolutely needs to invest in some off campus housing - there is a huge need for some clean, reasonably priced apartments close to campus.
 
Well that's your and others' prerogative. I respect that right even though I believe it's narrow minded and in some ways vindictive. There will be those like me who will significantly increase their donation! Add to that I believe there's concrete evidence that a highly successful athletics program ultimately benefits the entire university and generates both income and publicity which more than compensates from lost donations from individuals who consider/treat athletics as a poor stepchild at universities.

Pitt has had no problem recruiting students and annual fund donors with middle-of-the-road athletics, so how would highly-successful athletics really change that calculus?
 
Pitt has had no problem recruiting students and annual fund donors with middle-of-the-road athletics, so how would highly-successful athletics really change that calculus?
Apples/Oranges comparison. Pitt's impressive endowment demonstrates that Pitt alumni will support academic endeavors. Pitt's alumni know where their priorities lie. As a comparison, Nit U. has waaay more alumni than Pitt, yet Pitt's endowment is a little larger than theirs.

And besides, it takes time to overcome 30+ years of mediocre football.
 
Pitt has had no problem recruiting students and annual fund donors with middle-of-the-road athletics, so how would highly-successful athletics really change that calculus?
The commitment to FB has been clearly tepid. If you want people to donate big dollars to FB you have to put a better product on the field than the garbage Nerdy and Pedersen were satisfied with. The annual fund has been pretty successful but attempts to endow FB scholarships have been a complete flop. The quality of the student body has gone up but there's still room for improvement. Add to that success in athletics is likely to increase academic giving at the same time. Athletics success normally increases the goodwill alumni have toward the university which translates into more generous giving.
 
Del - you do realize almost all endowed money is targeted? Pitt absolutely needs to invest in some off campus housing - there is a huge need for some clean, reasonably priced apartments close to campus.
I do recognize the endowments are targeted. You cited the existence of varied academic related needs and I have to assume at least some of those could be funded by the academic endowment.
 
So why is it that at least 95% of div 1 college programs have their own on campus stadiums? Because your arguments about cost and the number of times the stadium is used as just BS and have never held back a university which is serious about FB to build a stadium. All your arguments resonated with the 2 dumbest administrators Pitt has ever had, they being Pedey boy and Nerdy. There will be a new Pitt stadium.
Very nicely twisting stats to make a story to your liking. What is the % of city schools that have an on campus stadium. Not 95 %. How does it feel to be outted by an 18 year old. You must have gone to some HS in Delaware that are Panthers. Certainly too dumb to be a real Pitt man..
 
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The commitment to FB has been clearly tepid. If you want people to donate big dollars to FB you have to put a better product on the field than the garbage Nerdy and Pedersen were satisfied with. The annual fund has been pretty successful but attempts to endow FB scholarships have been a complete flop. The quality of the student body has gone up but there's still room for improvement. Add to that success in athletics is likely to increase academic giving at the same time. Athletics success normally increases the goodwill alumni have toward the university which translates into more generous giving.
Del is completely correct - the attempt to endow FB scholarships was/is a disaster. But that is a good example of where donations would be better targeted at this point.
 
Very nicely twisting stats to make a story to your liking. What is the % of city schools that have an on campus stadium. Not 95 %. How does it feel to be outted by an 18 year old. You must have gone to some HS in Delaware that are Panthers. Certainly too dumb to be a real Pitt man..
City university, country university makes no difference young , jackass. Money spends in both places. Pitt had its own stadium which held 60,000 and it was in Oakland. You can go suckle your mommy now before you go nighty night.
 
The Steelers played at PITT stadium until 3 rivers was built.

City university, country university makes no difference young , jackass. Money spends in both places. Pitt had its own stadium which held 60,000 and it was in Oakland. You can go suckle your mommy now before you go nighty night.
 
www.newpittstadium.com has over 110,000 + views since inception nearly one year ago! I tried to pin down the exact number from the site administrator by she would not divulge. I'd say that it draws interest. TIDBIT: GSPIA study has been found and is in the hands of the Chancellor and staff. Also, Pitt has commissioned study focusing on three potential sites for New Pitt Stadium ~ all in Oakland.

www.newpittstadium.com
Is this 'Consulting Firm' located at the 'Glam Bar' in Philly or is it on Fairview Street in Allentown?
 
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comparing pitt stadium with a new on campus stadium is a bit unfair. First off, pitt stadium was very antiquated by the mid / late 80's. I recall, one of my very first memories of pitt stadium, was walking up the corridors and seeing huge mounds of dirt in the corners. . I found this odd compared to the ramps at Three rivers.. Also, we don't need to go in depth about how poor the leadership was in 80's and 90's with support of the football program...

I think or hope, if this ever happens (a huge if of course) but if it happens, it will be done much better than old pitt stadium..
 
Very nicely twisting stats to make a story to your liking. What is the % of city schools that have an on campus stadium. Not 95 %. How does it feel to be outted by an 18 year old. You must have gone to some HS in Delaware that are Panthers. Certainly too dumb to be a real Pitt man..

Your point is well taken, but it is hard to determine a "city school" as it is not really consistently defined. Is Texas in Austin a city school...or Ohio State in Columbus? Ohio State has 1,765 acres of "urban" campus. Washington in Seattle has 703 acres of "urban" campus. Texas has 424 acres. Pitt has 132 acres, the smallest main campus by acreage (by over 100 acres) among all Power 5 conference schools. Few schools look like Pitt gridded into such a high density area.

I can tell you this, of the 129 schools playing FBS football, 43% of those with less than 400 acres play off-campus, and 63% of those with less than 200 acres (e.g. Pitt) play off-campus.
 
City university, country university makes no difference young , jackass. Money spends in both places. Pitt had its own stadium which held 60,000 and it was in Oakland. You can go suckle your mommy now before you go nighty night.
Geez, that was uncalled for, Del. Seems like your getting pounded too much. Perhaps YOU are the problem.
 
Geez, that was uncalled for, Del. Seems like your getting pounded too much. Perhaps YOU are the problem.[/. No, I think the problem is that there is a trend onthis Board that if you don't take the party line, no matter what the subject, that people attack you, and you're part of that clique on many occasions. Only on a Pitt Board would people attack you for supporting the construction of an on campus FB stadium and treat you as if you were aWVU fan.
 
Pitt needs to go on a land grab. To advertise it as such would drive property values up so stealth is needed.

It is already sky high in Oakland. Pitt and CMU nexus makes it a major hot spot. Office rental prices are through the roof and there isn't enough office or housing space.

No one can really buy anything stealthily in Oakland anymore. And Pitt gets politically mauled for every acre it acquires because it takes it off the tax roll.

Speaking of which, Pitt is chewing through its strategic reserves to cover the in-state tuition discounts and PHEAA aid that hasn't been distributed for 7 months because of the state budget impasse. Even if they eventually get most of this money back when the impasse is resolved, it is still costing Pitt millions for the months of investment revenue it is losing out on. But this is an example of what strategic reserves are actually for in the first place...especially in a state like Pennsylvania.
 
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Very nicely twisting stats to make a story to your liking. What is the % of city schools that have an on campus stadium. Not 95 %. How does it feel to be outted by an 18 year old. You must have gone to some HS in Delaware that are Panthers. Certainly too dumb to be a real Pitt man..
I'm not one to likes to be the grammar police, but I always get a kick out of someone who misspells words and misuses punctuation while calling someone else dumb.
 
Since this thread is turning into a bit of a mess, how about we talk about the students leaving early, or maybe that old favorite, Sweet Caroline?
 
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I will start this by saying this is obviously unlikely to ever happen but it doesn't hurt to speculate on a snowy Sunday in January.

I think the yet-to-be-developed Hazelwood LTV site could offer something although it isn't on campus per se. However it could help connect Oakland with the south side and would be easy to walk to from the south side.

Saw this article related to creating a transportation link from Oakland to that area:

http://www.post-gazette.com/news/tr...tween-Oakland-Almono-site/stories/20150829005
I live in Hazelwood and have been involved with planning for that site during the past 12 years, and there is zero chance that a stadium would be built there. Plans are very well developed for the site, and infrastructure work is underway.
 
Nice work! That site has so much potential! H2P

I live in Hazelwood and have been involved with planning for that site during the past 12 years, and there is zero chance that a stadium would be built there. Plans are very well developed for the site, and infrastructure work is underway.
 
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