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No its not. Everyone loves the volleyball arena she is building. Volleyball and football are all that matter to her bosses.
If people are mad at the guy we have now partially because he’s an aloof asshole who doesn’t get along well with his fellow human, allow me to introduce you to Buzz Williams.
And why would Buzz Williams come here. A Texas boy coaching in Texas who makes $4 million a year (actually higher because he has an escalator clause).
to get out of the SEC. Its going to be really tough for him in that gauntlet. In the ACC, he'd arguably be the 2nd best coach behind Bennett.
If he's afraid of competition then he should go to a A-10 or AAC school. Or better yet. Go after the Louisville job. Much better than Pitt and he can still "hide" in the ACC.
I'm not saying there aren't coaches who would want to come here, but there would not be many established coaches which is what this program needs. Miller does check that box and I think could revive it.
The American is a 1 bid league starting in 23-24. The A10 cant pay Buzz what he's worth. So he can make good money in the ACC and kick the crap out of the garbage in this league.
We still have to identify a coach who wants to prove themselves as the top priority .
Frankly we need someone who is honest about using Pitt as a stepping stone to a better gig - and then let us worry about using money to keep him.
Correct - it has to be someone moving up the ladder that has to win at Pitt to advance his career. A coach who has proven he can win at a lower level program that has obstacles. Ideally - it would be Howland-Dixon situation where the baton is passed onto the good, young assistant on staff.
We need to sue them for $50 million- settle for $18 and send that check to Capel. Full circle
Coaches are alpha dogs with large egos, they don’t shy away from conferences because the path is tougher they embrace it. If you don’t think you are capable of winning at the highest level you’re not much of a coach to begin with.
Fans always seem to embrace the idea that basketball and football coaches want the easiest path, they are totally incorrect in this line of thinking.
Might as well fire this one back up. Golden is off the board, but Medved, Odom, and Valentine are still out there. Who else you got?
Medved and Odom for sure. Jeff Linder at Wyoming. Hell, give me any Mountain West coach other than Tim Miles or Steve Alford over this guy.
Anyone who can coach and turn around a team fast in this new environment.
Someone who showed they can navigate this new world but also coach lol
Someone who showed they can navigate this new world but also coach lol
for sure. i just posted it for the "nobody will want this Pitt job BS". he's making peanuts now compared to what Pitt will pay him.
And that’s part of it, right? Say you get rid of Capel in March. Say his buyout is something like $5M paid out within 30 days, and $10M spread out in annual $2M payments over the next five years. That’s the no-build option, minus whatever you might be willing to whittle it down (probably the back end payments and not the front end).
Ryan Odom makes about a million at Utah State. You’d have to give him a pay bump to get him here, but I think it’s probably fair to say that $2.5 would be a competitive offer. Even if you kept the assistant salary pool identical, you’re still saving a million a year on the head coaching salary. Capel’s $2M annual buyout would eliminate that, and put you a million a year in the hole.
Pitt basketball turned a profit of about $2M last year. So you’re still turning a profit (albeit $1M less than before), even if the revenues stay exactly the same. The question then becomes whether a successful Odom tenure can bring in more revenue than the ~$12M that the program makes now. I think that a *winning* program brings in more revenue than the one we have now. It’s certainly a better situation if you can get more revenue out of the current staff without having to navigate the accounting for a buyout…but if that’s not an option, the choice is really pretty clear.
No - Ricky Greer is actually more qualified if people must have an ex-Panther with no HC experience, but he isn’t the answer either. Orlando isn’t the answer either before someone mentions him.
Wow, that really puts it in perspective. I knew he was severely over compensated, but seeing the coaches in the same range and the results they’ve delivered? Maybe HL‘s seat should be getting warm.
If Heather can land a sought-after high major coach, she can build 2 more volleyball arenas and a Pickleball stadium for all I care.
Nope. Most successful AD at Pitt in the last 40 years.
Your obsession with trying to nearly shoehorn coaches into “guarantees” and “lottery tickets” is weird.
thinking ahead some more, our timing could be great for making a change in March 23.
last years openings you had big-time programs in the coaching market: Fla, Geo, LSU, Mary, Lou, and Nova, Duke (promoted asst.)
this year, our competition would be the likes of maybe: GTown, Clem, Neb, NW, etc.
last years openings you had big-time programs in the coaching market: Fla, Geo, LSU, Mary, Lou, and Nova, Duke (promoted asst.)
this year, our competition would be the likes of maybe: GTown, Clem, Neb, NW, etc.
I think you could see NC State this year, too, even if Bballinsider doesn’t think so.
There are also the collection of potential retirements (Syracuse and Miami are two that come to mind)
No. He has to get reasonably close to the NIT this year or he's done regardless of the buyout. If he goes 2-18 (which he wont), there is 0 chance he is back. 0. If the buyout was too large at that point, Heather would be fired.
Weird, CBS Sports seems to think there was many other options for Pitt after an 0-18 season.
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Sad to say but I believe the perception continues in the coaching profesion that it isnt possible for Pitt to be successful in hoops playing in the ACC because Pitt is a bad fit for the ACC in hoops. Very recently heard that opinion from an NBA scout that I know well.
Given that perception it is no wonder no one wants the job. It is probably seen as a career ender.
Given that perception it is no wonder no one wants the job. It is probably seen as a career ender.
How are we a bad fit for the acc?
That’s an assinine thing to believe
Not assinine--just wishful thinking on your part, IMHO.
One big reason is that ACC membership badly damaged our traditional recruiting footprint. The corollary to that is that we lost the ability to regularly play our traditional northestern (i.e., Big East) opponents which had made us attractive to recruits from the northeast. Notice that Syracuse has slumped and BC has been a total mess since joining the ACC. The ACC makes our ceiling about where Syracuse is now and our more typical position like that of BC.
One big reason is that ACC membership badly damaged our traditional recruiting footprint. The corollary to that is that we lost the ability to regularly play our traditional northestern (i.e., Big East) opponents which had made us attractive to recruits from the northeast. Notice that Syracuse has slumped and BC has been a total mess since joining the ACC. The ACC makes our ceiling about where Syracuse is now and our more typical position like that of BC.
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