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TSN's Mike DeCourcy really gave it to the refs.

Rarely do you see this, he's a national guy (though from here) but he basically implied the refs cheated in favor of Duke.

That. Then the whistle during the first 4 minutes of the 2H were laughable. They had 5 or 6 fouls called on Pitt before either team broke a sweat. None on Duke, Put at least 3 Panthers in big foul trouble. Thought that was going to be a killer. 💀

But I guess all’s well that ends well. No thanks to the stripes. 😏
 
Rarely do you see this, he's a national guy (though from here) but he basically implied the refs cheated in favor of Duke.


If you look at anything that long, you cant say that there's indisputable evidence. I think the ball probably grazed the a Pitt fingertip but no way you can tell that. They were guessing that it did.
 
I certainly didn't think that call would be reversed. They showed the hell out of & I can't say conclusively that Pitt ever touched it. That was bizarre.

OTOH, Had they ruled the shot by McCain a 3 instead of 2, I wouldn't have had a problem with it. They left that one alone.
 
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3 different angles were repeatedly shown in slow mo on tv. The only one that looked like it could even be a possible touch was not definitive because there was no way to determine contact due to lack of depth perspective: Bub's hand was between the camera and ball; in front of the ball. For the opposite angle, his hand clearly went over the top of the ball and did not make contact. One of the other refs was even motioning that when they were at the table. As has been mentioned, there was no observable change in direction or rotation of the ball when passing by his hand.

It was 100% a blown reversal, for which you would need definitive video evidence to overturn. And the fact it took so long made the reversal infinitely worse. There is no excuse for overturning that call. It is the sort of things that was so bad that it feeds conspiratorial theories. If Pitt had lost, it would have been one of the all time rob jobs and should have been protested to the conference. In fact, it still should be.
 
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3 different angles were repeatedly shown in slow mo on tv. The only one that looked like it could even be a possible touch was not definitive because there was no way to determine contact due to lack of depth perspective: Bub's hand was between the camera and ball; in front of the ball. For the opposite angle, his hand clearly went over the top of the ball and did not make contact. One of the other refs was even motioning that when they were at the table. As has been mentioned, there was no observable change in direction or rotation of the ball when passing by his hand.

It was 100% a blown reversal, for which you would need definitive video evidence to overturn. And the fact it took so long made the reversal infinitely worse. There is no excuse for overturning that call. It is the sort of things that was so bad that it feeds conspiratorial theories. If Pitt had lost, it would have been one of the all time rob jobs and should have been protested to the conference. In fact, it still should be.
This is well said. Absolutely nothing was shown that would or should have overturned the call. And this was certainly not their only goof during a great game.
 
3 different angles were repeatedly shown in slow mo on tv. The only one that looked like it could even be a possible touch was not definitive because there was no way to determine contact due to lack of depth perspective: Bub's hand was between the camera and ball; in front of the ball. For the opposite angle, his hand clearly went over the top of the ball and did not make contact. One of the other refs was even motioning that when they were at the table. As has been mentioned, there was no observable change in direction or rotation of the ball when passing by his hand.

It was 100% a blown reversal, for which you would need definitive video evidence to overturn. And the fact it took so long made the reversal infinitely worse. There is no excuse for overturning that call. It is the sort of things that was so bad that it feeds conspiratorial theories. If Pitt had lost, it would have been one of the all time rob jobs and should have been protested to the conference. In fact, it still should be.

And all that would have been done had Pitt lost even partly as a result of the horrendously bad call is nothing. In that scenario, Duke would have won and everyone on Tobacco Road would say all is right in Durham. We would have known we were robbed, but no one else would care as long as the #7 team's record is preserved.

Fortunately, the better team at least for last night won the game regardless of the poor officiating. Now all we hear about is the 2 starters that Duke didn't have available as the reason Pitt won. That's BS. Duke has guys to step in who would be starters on most other teams, including Pitt. So they know what they can do with that excuse. Let the Dukies whine and cry all they want.
 
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Yeah, what about the Duke guy who was clearly out of bounds hitting the ball off of Lowe who was also out of bounds, but giving the ball to Duke??

It was clear on replay. However, in real time, I can see where that would be a difficult call to get right. Had it been reviewable, I'm sure that would have been Pitt's ball
 
3 different angles were repeatedly shown in slow mo on tv. The only one that looked like it could even be a possible touch was not definitive because there was no way to determine contact due to lack of depth perspective: Bub's hand was between the camera and ball; in front of the ball. For the opposite angle, his hand clearly went over the top of the ball and did not make contact. One of the other refs was even motioning that when they were at the table. As has been mentioned, there was no observable change in direction or rotation of the ball when passing by his hand.

It was 100% a blown reversal, for which you would need definitive video evidence to overturn. And the fact it took so long made the reversal infinitely worse. There is no excuse for overturning that call. It is the sort of things that was so bad that it feeds conspiratorial theories. If Pitt had lost, it would have been one of the all time rob jobs and should have been protested to the conference. In fact, it still should be.
I don't think it was a "blown" call. I think they intentionally tried to convince themselves it hit the Pitt player so Duke could have the ball. There I said it, they outright cheated and should be reprimanded.
 
I don't think it was a "blown" call. I think they intentionally tried to convince themselves it hit the Pitt player so Duke could have the ball. There I said it, they outright cheated and should be reprimanded.

Can you imagine the shouting and outrage from the Dukies if Pitt were correctly given the ball in that situation? The refs were openly trying to find ways to give the game to Duke and couldn't do it because Pitt beat the refs and Duke.
 
I don't think it was a "blown" call. I think they intentionally tried to convince themselves it hit the Pitt player so Duke could have the ball. There I said it, they outright cheated and should be reprimanded.
It was a clear - stands as called - situation. The fact that they changed it shows the intent.

The crew should be reprimanded for making a mockery of replay.
 
The only thing I can imagine is that the refs didn't know the definition of "irrefutable".
 
Scheyer told them
What to look for after they came to an initial decision then they went and looked again and changed the call. It was absurd.
 
3 different angles were repeatedly shown in slow mo on tv. The only one that looked like it could even be a possible touch was not definitive because there was no way to determine contact due to lack of depth perspective: Bub's hand was between the camera and ball; in front of the ball. For the opposite angle, his hand clearly went over the top of the ball and did not make contact. One of the other refs was even motioning that when they were at the table. As has been mentioned, there was no observable change in direction or rotation of the ball when passing by his hand.

It was 100% a blown reversal, for which you would need definitive video evidence to overturn. And the fact it took so long made the reversal infinitely worse. There is no excuse for overturning that call. It is the sort of things that was so bad that it feeds conspiratorial theories. If Pitt had lost, it would have been one of the all time rob jobs and should have been protested to the conference. In fact, it still should be.

The best way they can explain is "we think he probably touched it but the video doesn't show it for sure."
 
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