Twins & Delalic gone

[Sean Miller Fan]

Probably means no Folguieras.

I wouldn’t have minded these guys staying but with the rev share money hitting on July 1, if you can't get 3 better players than this, what are we even doing?

 

[Millerton]

I'd rather have Delalic stick around.

 

[JD1976]

Probably means no Folguieras.

I wouldn’t have minded these guys staying but with the rev share money hitting on July 1, if you can't get 3 better players than this, what are we even doing?

Why would these guys leaving preclude the RMU big from considering Pitt?

 

[FireballZ]

I would have liked all three to have stayed, but I get it. I will say that if Corhen is retained, I'm taking next season off, HTP1985 style, except I'll actually mean it.

 

[PittPanther44]

Twins were fun and unique. Just disappointing because I through we would eventually would have two high level ACC staters on the floor together. Just never got strong enough.

A little sad too because I think they were part of the recent better culture. Never forget them going absolutely nuts when the manager white kid got a layup against Cuse

 

[PittPanther44]

Also makes you wonder what they are looking for….

Going into a sure fire tournament team and hopefully see a few minutes a game?

Going down a level to be on the court together - and possibly be higher level starters?

Go their separate ways?

 

[Protes]

Also makes you wonder what they are looking for….

Going into a sure fire tournament team and hopefully see a few minutes a game?

Going down a level to be on the court together - and possibly be higher level starters?

Go their separate ways?

I would bet they want to play together. They do have decent chemistry when they are both on the floor with one another.

 

[FireballZ]

A-10 seems perfect for the twins.

 

[HailToPitt1985]

I would have liked all three to have stayed, but I get it. I will say that if Corhen is retained, I'm taking next season off, HTP1985 style, except I'll actually mean it.

Don't worry. I think Corhen will leave also, so you can come back next year to see some games. And watch them lose even more. Not that the twins, Corhen and Delacic would have helped at all.

 

[TheWerewolfFromTwilight]

They all suck. Next.

 

[pierre93]

Don't worry. I think Corhen will leave also, so you can come back next year to see some games. And watch them lose even more. Not that the twins, Corhen and Delacic would have helped at all.

Clueless

 

[ratking17]

They all suck. Next.

That's the thing. This team was what, 1 game above .500

No need to shed tears. Thank them for their work and time to build a better roster...if possible under capel

 

[Joe the Panther Fan]

They do have decent chemistry when they are both on the floor with one another.

Which is why we so rarely played them together.

 

[PittPharm2002]

I'd rather have Delalic stick around.

Gary on suicide watch !

 

[Protes]

Sad to lose Delalic. Kid has potential. Wouldn't be surprised in the least to see him thrive someplace else.

 

[CaptainMurphy]

A-10 seems perfect for the twins.

Wonder if Duquesne could be a possibility since they seem to like it here.

 

[Atilla Cosby]

Sad to lose Delalic. Kid has potential. Wouldn't be surprised in the least to see him thrive someplace else.

Yes, his passing ability and court vision are good. He just needs time. Freshman are freshman. He'll do well somewhere.

 

[pierre93]

That's the thing. This team was what, 1 game above .500

No need to shed tears. Thank them for their work and time to build a better roster...if possible under capel

Exactly 💯 we need more physical play underneath. H2P!!!

 

[Sean Miller Fan]

Gary on suicide watch !

He will post a tweet soon from some random guy stating what a terrible loss this was.

 

[9782978]

A-10 seems perfect for the twins.

A-10 seems perfect for Pitt.

 

[TheWerewolfFromTwilight]

A-10 seems perfect for Pitt.

Now that's a solid post. Well done.

 

[BreakingPitt]

Can someone explain this college revenue sharing ?

 

[Chescat1]

I wouldn't mind if the twins, Delalic and even Corhen all stayed.....IF we hit the portal hard enough
and they became backups off the bench to better arriving players. Obviously that ain't gonna happen, so
good luck to em. IMO Corhen can move at this level to a team that doesn't need a strong rebounding forward,
but as an experienced sub. The twins, A-10. Delalic....never delivered per his Eupoean hype, maybe in time.

 

[Sean Miller Fan]

Can someone explain this college revenue sharing ?

Universities can spend $20 million/year to pay players DIRECTLY starting July 1. So Pitt will have that $20 million plus A412/booster money. This also means that player salaries are going to go way up.

 

[neench]

Universities can spend $20 million/year to pay players DIRECTLY starting July 1. So Pitt will have that $20 million plus A412/booster money. This also means that player salaries are going to go way up.

 

[neench]

But all schools will be able to spend $20M. Is that for all sports? If so, won't a school that only has basketball, not football, have an advantage as they will be able to use all of the $$ on bb players.

 

[FireballZ]

I wouldn't mind if the twins, Delalic and even Corhen all stayed.....IF we hit the portal hard enough
and they became backups off the bench to better arriving players. Obviously that ain't gonna happen, so
good luck to em. IMO Corhen can move at this level to a team that doesn't need a strong rebounding forward,
but as an experienced sub. The twins, A-10. Delalic....never delivered per his Eupoean hype, maybe in time.

Delalic seems like a good WCC type of player that ends up killing it at a Creighton type after some more seasoning.

 

[pittbb80]

If this is true what does this say about this staff. Of course it’s not something we didn’t already know. They don’t coach and develop players

Will be intersting to see where Deliac goes and how good he ends up being. I think he’s going to be a really damming example of the incompetence of this staff

Penn State and ACC Rival Reach Out to Pitt Transfer Amsal Delalic

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[BreakingPitt]

Universities can spend $20 million/year to pay players DIRECTLY starting July 1. So Pitt will have that $20 million plus A412/booster money. This also means that player salaries are going to go way up.

So say Pitt and Duke or UNC will both only have 20 million to pay players?
Is this money already Pitt's or do they receive extra from somewhere ?

 

[Sean Miller Fan]

But all schools will be able to spend $20M. Is that for all sports? If so, won't a school that only has basketball, not football, have an advantage as they will be able to use all of the $$ on bb players.

The $20 million is for all sports. And yes, a school that only has basketball will have an advantage. They could, in theory, spend $20 million on a basketball roster but it's doubtful that any of them will do that. $10 million? Yea, maybe.

 

[Sean Miller Fan]

So say Pitt and Duke or UNC will both only have 20 million to pay players?
Is this money already Pitt's or do they receive extra from somewhere ?

It's not extra money. The money will have to come from Pitt's budget one way or another. Maybe that's cutting staff or cutting sports or just getting the general fund to kick in. Also, no school has to pay the players, but the House settlement gives them this option. It's widely expected that every P4 school will spend the full $20 million. How they break it down per sport is the question. Remember, the new administration overruled the last one, saying Title IX won't apply. So you can spend it all on football and basketball if you want.

What this does is level the playing field some. In some ways, it's almost like going back to everyone paying $0 because all P4 schools will have enough money to be competitive. Like, take BC and VT for example, 2 schools who really didn't do booster NILs for basketball. Lets say they do $16 million and $4 million for basketball and have $0 booster NIL. Lets say Alabama does $18 million for football, $2 million for basketball and has $3 million in booster NIL. Well, not BC has $4 million to spend and Bama only $5 million. The playing field has leveled somewhat.

 

[TheWerewolfFromTwilight]

It's not extra money. The money will have to come from Pitt's budget one way or another. Maybe that's cutting staff or cutting sports or just getting the general fund to kick in. Also, no school has to pay the players, but the House settlement gives them this option. It's widely expected that every P4 school will spend the full $20 million. How they break it down per sport is the question. Remember, the new administration overruled the last one, saying Title IX won't apply. So you can spend it all on football and basketball if you want.

What this does is level the playing field some. In some ways, it's almost like going back to everyone paying $0 because all P4 schools will have enough money to be competitive. Like, take BC and VT for example, 2 schools who really didn't do booster NILs for basketball. Lets say they do $16 million and $4 million for basketball and have $0 booster NIL. Lets say Alabama does $18 million for football, $2 million for basketball and has $3 million in booster NIL. Well, not BC has $4 million to spend and Bama only $5 million. The playing field has leveled somewhat.

Revenue sharing isn't going to level a damn thing when we're talking about the elite schools. The BIG and SEC schools will comfortably cover all athletic dept/revenue sharing costs from their tv contracts alone, and they'll devote every fan/booster dollar to NIL.

Schools like BC will be telling their fans to give to some general fund where they can distribute to the athletic dept vs revenue sharing vs NIL... and, ultimately, they'll need almost every dollar just to get up to that $20M. So everything will be the same in relativity.

 

[Thee Jackie Treehorn]

So everything will be the same in relativity.

This would be my expectation. The poor stay poor, the rich get rich.

 

[PittPharm2002]

Revenue sharing isn't going to level a damn thing when we're talking about the elite schools. The BIG and SEC schools will comfortably cover all athletic dept/revenue sharing costs from their tv contracts alone, and they'll devote every fan/booster dollar to NIL.

Schools like BC will be telling their fans to give to some general fund where they can distribute to the athletic dept vs revenue sharing vs NIL... and, ultimately, they'll need almost every dollar just to get up to that $20M. So everything will be the same in relativity.

Yep
Nothing changes - except schools with lots of money will spend even more

And nobody is breaking bank for our portal guys -
They are bench players on a bad team for a reason

 

[Sean Miller Fan]

Revenue sharing isn't going to level a damn thing when we're talking about the elite schools. The BIG and SEC schools will comfortably cover all athletic dept/revenue sharing costs from their tv contracts alone, and they'll devote every fan/booster dollar to NIL.

Schools like BC will be telling their fans to give to some general fund where they can distribute to the athletic dept vs revenue sharing vs NIL... and, ultimately, they'll need almost every dollar just to get up to that $20M. So everything will be the same in relativity.

Players and coaches win games. Not extra trainers, new locker rooms, new pool tables, extra staffing and all the unnecessary ancillary stuff that comes with all this TV money. Can SEC and B10 schools have boosters that will give enough specifically to basketball to keep them far ahead of ACC schools. Yes. But I think most of you are overrating how much these good ole boys value basketball. They are funding it now because the university can't pay directly. Will they continue to fund it at these levels when the university can fund it at these levels? I really don't think. And let's not act like these boosters are paying exorbitant amounts. Pitt was at $2 million. The best SEC programs are at about $4 million. There's SEC schools who made the NCAAT who are very close to Pitt's $2 million. Money wasn't the reason that Vandy and Miss St made it but Pitt didn't.

Now let's go back to the BC/Bama example.

2025 NIL funding:

Bama: let's say $4 million
BC: $500K (if I'm being generous)

Both schools will have $20 million to spend and BC is going to spend the $20 million. ACC schools have committed to fully funding player payroll. It comes down to how you allocate. I mean BC can spend $20 million on basketball, $0 on football and win a natty in basketball and go 0-12 in football next year. But let's say they do $15 million in football and $5 million basketball. And let's say their booster NIL goes to $0. Here's the 25-26 numbers for basketball player payroll:

BC: $5 million from university, $0 from boosters

Bama: $3 million from university (with $17 million going to football, they like football at Bama) with $4 million from basketball boosters so a total of $7 million.

So Bama is at $7 million. BC is at $5 million. The playing field has leveled significantly. And this assumes that Bama boosters are going to continue to pay the players when the university can now do so.

 

[TheWerewolfFromTwilight]

Players and coaches win games. Not extra trainers, new locker rooms, new pool tables, extra staffing and all the unnecessary ancillary stuff that comes with all this TV money. Can SEC and B10 schools have boosters that will give enough specifically to basketball to keep them far ahead of ACC schools. Yes. But I think most of you are overrating how much these good ole boys value basketball. They are funding it now because the university can't pay directly. Will they continue to fund it at these levels when the university can fund it at these levels? I really don't think. And let's not act like these boosters are paying exorbitant amounts. Pitt was at $2 million. The best SEC programs are at about $4 million. There's SEC schools who made the NCAAT who are very close to Pitt's $2 million. Money wasn't the reason that Vandy and Miss St made it but Pitt didn't.

Now let's go back to the BC/Bama example.

2025 NIL funding:

Bama: let's say $4 million
BC: $500K (if I'm being generous)

Both schools will have $20 million to spend and BC is going to spend the $20 million. ACC schools have committed to fully funding player payroll. It comes down to how you allocate. I mean BC can spend $20 million on basketball, $0 on football and win a natty in basketball and go 0-12 in football next year. But let's say they do $15 million in football and $5 million basketball. And let's say their booster NIL goes to $0. Here's the 25-26 numbers for basketball player payroll:

BC: $5 million from university, $0 from boosters

Bama: $3 million from university (with $17 million going to football, they like football at Bama) with $4 million from basketball boosters so a total of $7 million.

So Bama is at $7 million. BC is at $5 million. The playing field has leveled significantly. And this assumes that Bama boosters are going to continue to pay the players when the university can now do so.

Nobody is talking about ancillary things. Alabama is going to hit the $20M revenue sharing figure with ease. Then they're going to find a way to get another $20M or so in NIL money (talking about the entire athletic dept). Probably more, actually, because schools are now finding ways to affiliate themselves with the NIL collectives. But we'll conservatively call it $40M total they'll have to spend on players in all sports.

If BC can even hit the first $20M, that'll just about tap them out.

So, the disparity will still exist, and it might actually even be greater (as a dollar figure, not a %) than it is now.

Nothing will be level unless this revenue sharing exists in conjunction with NIL scrutiny that only allows for fmv deals. Instead, it's more likely that the $20M salary cap gets shot down in court and that ends up increasing.

 

[PittPanther44]

If this is true what does this say about this staff. Of course it’s not something we didn’t already know. They don’t coach and develop players

Will be intersting to see where Deliac goes and how good he ends up being. I think he’s going to be a really damming example of the incompetence of this staff

Penn State and ACC Rival Reach Out to Pitt Transfer Amsal Delalic

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Also if he has heard from these schools we played last year, probably says they saw something in him even though we really didn’t use him much.

 

[Sean Miller Fan]

Nobody is talking about ancillary things. Alabama is going to hit the $20M revenue sharing figure with ease. Then they're going to find a way to get another $20M or so in NIL money (talking about the entire athletic dept). Probably more, actually, because schools are now finding ways to affiliate themselves with the NIL collectives. But we'll conservatively call it $40M total they'll have to spend on players in all sports.

If BC can even hit the first $20M, that'll just about tap them out.

So, the disparity will still exist, and it might actually even be greater (as a dollar figure, not a %) than it is now.

Nothing will be level unless this revenue sharing exists in conjunction with NIL scrutiny that only allows for fmv deals. Instead, it's more likely that the $20M salary cap gets shot down in court and that ends up increasing.

I'm talking about only basketball here. How much do you think Alabama's basketball payroll will be next season?

 

[Sean Miller Fan]

Nobody is talking about ancillary things. Alabama is going to hit the $20M revenue sharing figure with ease. Then they're going to find a way to get another $20M or so in NIL money (talking about the entire athletic dept). Probably more, actually, because schools are now finding ways to affiliate themselves with the NIL collectives. But we'll conservatively call it $40M total they'll have to spend on players in all sports.

If BC can even hit the first $20M, that'll just about tap them out.

So, the disparity will still exist, and it might actually even be greater (as a dollar figure, not a %) than it is now.

Nothing will be level unless this revenue sharing exists in conjunction with NIL scrutiny that only allows for fmv deals. Instead, it's more likely that the $20M salary cap gets shot down in court and that ends up increasing.

I'm talking about only basketball here. How much do you think Alabama's basketball payroll will be next season?

And also, yes, technically, these boosters pay for play NIL deals will be going away as any deal over a small amount will need to go through a clearinghouse. No more paying guys $1 million to show up for 30 minutes at an animal shelter. However, we all assume that someone will sue about this and the NCAA will lose in court so the flood of NCAA athletes to animal shelter will continue.

 

[TheWerewolfFromTwilight]

I'm talking about only basketball here. How much do you think Alabama's basketball payroll will be next season?

I think everything will go up as a result of this revenue sharing. And I think Alabama enjoys being good at basketball and makes money off it. So $8M/year within the next few years wouldn't surprise me.

I don't think they care as little about basketball as some people want to believe they do.

I mean, I agree that if BC just says F football and sinks a ton of money into basketball they can close the gap. But how is that any different from how it is now? Pitt could have paid its football team much less and doubled its basketball money if they really wanted to (provided the people who donated the money were okay with it).