Unpleasant assessment

[DC_Area_Panther]

of this year's FB team and of the new Pres's and AD's commitment on the blather blog--

Likely 6-6 finish this FB season belief of several based on spring game and fall schedule strength.

Prediction by one blog author that there is no commitment to spend the $$s necessary to hire or retain FB or BB coaches even if they become highly successful. Pitt likely unwilling to pay over about $2-2.5 million to any coach again no matter the success level.

Pretty depressing outlook if proven true.

 

[Piranha]

of this year's FB team and of the new Pres's and AD's commitment on the blather blog--

Likely 6-6 finish this FB season belief of several based on spring game and fall schedule strength.

Prediction by one blog author that there is no commitment to spend the $$s necessary to hire or retain FB or BB coaches even if they become highly successful. Pitt likely unwilling to pay over about $2-2.5 million to any coach again no matter the success level.

Pretty depressing outlook if proven true.

Where is the committment from the fan base? That seems like a fair salary right now. If we win 10 or more games then we can re-evaluate, but the fans need to hold up their end as well.

 

[JokePa]

I dont know how that assessment is at all unbiased??

We spend FARRRRRR more money now on assistants and the program than we did just several years ago. Dixon was a case of letting him go... the guy was great, but come on, we never went past the sweet 16 in all those years. The writing was on the wall. We are spending more on assistants and we upped Narduzzi's pay.

Completely incorrect statement.

The 6-6 record? Could be true... I mean, who the heck knows? We could get several injuries and easily be 6-6 or we could catch breaks and be 10-2 and high index. Basing any opinion on some prediction this time of the season is just mind numbingly dumb

 

[WCSordill]

of this year's FB team and of the new Pres's and AD's commitment on the blather blog--

Likely 6-6 finish this FB season belief of several based on spring game and fall schedule strength.

Prediction by one blog author that there is no commitment to spend the $$s necessary to hire or retain FB or BB coaches even if they become highly successful. Pitt likely unwilling to pay over about $2-2.5 million to any coach again no matter the success level.

Pretty depressing outlook if proven true.

This sounds lilke hot air. There is no indication at this point that there is not administrative commitment to spend. I would guess that spending would have to be within reasonable range of ability to spend, but we haven't heard from anywhere that there are limits or unwillingness on the part of the administration.

 

[Panther Parrothead]

of this year's FB team and of the new Pres's and AD's commitment on the blather blog--

Likely 6-6 finish this FB season belief of several based on spring game and fall schedule strength.

Prediction by one blog author that there is no commitment to spend the $$s necessary to hire or retain FB or BB coaches even if they become highly successful. Pitt likely unwilling to pay over about $2-2.5 million to any coach again no matter the success level.

Pretty depressing outlook if proven true.

Re: the 2016 prediction, the team is in a perennial rebuilding mode: we had a decent offense, but the defense faltered. We're starting to build a decent defense, but we're overwhelmed by questions at QB, WR, and overall team depth.

Summarizing, we're still paying the price for the past decisions of the athletic department, the program-crushing "coaching carousel", and the lack of support from a frustrated and underwhelmed fan base.

Personally, I see Pitt eventually forking-up more money for coaching, but not until the wins come first. FWIW, I thought that Jamie was well paid, especially when one takes into consideration his March performances.

 

[dv8765]

Lol Jamie Dixon was one of the highest paid coaches in college basketball... I do believe they will put up the money for success

 

[OriginalEther]

I quit reading that site years ago, after we got the Graham is good line, then Graham is bad and Chryst is good and acting like a real coach, and then we got the Youngstown State debacle.

I think the commitment to winning line ...or lack of it.....is the biggest myth spread here. This administration AND the last one are hamstrung by Pitts lack of revenue.
Hell, they did extend Narduzzi, who had a good start but hasn't done anything great yet and is still unproven.

 

[steel_curtain]

I dont know how that assessment is at all unbiased??

We spend FARRRRRR more money now on assistants and the program than we did just several years ago. Dixon was a case of letting him go... the guy was great, but come on, we never went past the sweet 16 in all those years. The writing was on the wall. We are spending more on assistants and we upped Narduzzi's pay.

Completely incorrect statement.

The 6-6 record? Could be true... I mean, who the heck knows? We could get several injuries and easily be 6-6 or we could catch breaks and be 10-2 and high index. Basing any opinion on some prediction this time of the season is just mind numbingly dumb

Im trying to understand a number of things.

1) How is the schedule tougher? Last year we played 6 road games, this year we play 5. Last year we played Iowa and Notre Dame OOC, 2 Top 10 teams, this year we play unranked Penn State at home and Top 25 Oklahoma State. This year there is a total of 2 maybe 3 Preseason Top 25 teams on the entire schedule, and Miami being one of those teams is borderline.

2) How is the Pitt talent depleted? Pitt returns more players off the 2 deep than any other team in the entire ACC. Pitt had the offensive and defensive freshmen players of the year in the ACC conference. And we have a nice recruiting class coming in.

3) James Conner didnt even play last year. You dont think his inspiration is going to inject fire into this team when he runs out onto the field?

4) Last year Pitt''s team gave up 182 points in ACC Conference games. That was 4th best in the entire conference. Last's year team lost on a 58 yard field goal to Iowa, a Top 10 team in the country.

5) Last years Pitt team was predicted to finish either dead last or 2nd to dead last in the ACC Coastal by almost everyone. We finished 2nd with a 1st year head Coach. For once, we have a Pitt football coach that I can say exceeded expectations, far exceeded them, especially when Conner was lost in the first game of the year.

6) 6 Wins next year? Over please, Im buying all day Pitt wins over 6 games next year.

 

[rockypanther]

There is simply no way to predict accurately. It depends so heavily on if Peterman stays healthy. We could win 5-8 games. We just don't have a playmaker that's proven yet at WR that can be a safety valve. We lost JP and have little depth at TE. Our OL should be good and our backs look good. But until I see someone step up as a consistent pass catcher and Peterman make it through the year without getting hurt, I can't make a prediction I feel confident about.

 

[rockypanther]

Im trying to understand a number of things.

1) How is the schedule tougher? Last year we played 6 road games, this year we play 5. Last year we played Iowa and Notre Dame OOC, 2 Top 10 teams, this year we play unranked Penn State at home and Top 25 Oklahoma State. This year there is a total of 2 maybe 3 Preseason Top 25 teams on the entire schedule, and Miami being one of those teams is borderline.

2) How is the Pitt talent depleted? Pitt returns more players off the 2 deep than any other team in the entire ACC. Pitt had the offensive and defensive freshmen players of the year in the ACC conference. And we have a nice recruiting class coming in.

3) James Conner didnt even play last year. You dont think his inspiration is going to inject fire into this team when he runs out onto the field?

4) Last year Pitt''s team gave up 182 points in ACC Conference games. That was 4th best in the entire conference. Last's year team lost on a 58 yard field goal to Iowa, a Top 10 team in the country.

5) Last years Pitt team was predicted to finish either dead last or 2nd to dead last in the ACC Coastal by almost everyone. We finished 2nd with a 1st year head Coach. For once, we have a Pitt football coach that I can say exceeded expectations, far exceeded them, especially when Conner was lost in the first game of the year.

6) 6 Wins next year? Over please, Im buying all day Pitt wins over 6 games next year.

Iowa was overrated. Okie State runs a spread which we don't defend well.We didn't play Clemson and they will be sweet. And the Penn State game will be really tough. It's a tough schedule.

 

[steel_curtain]

Iowa was overrated. Okie State runs a spread which we don't defend well.We didn't play Clemson and they will be sweet. And the Penn State game will be really tough. It's a tough schedule.

-Iowa was 8-0 in the Big Ten. They had 2 Top 25 road wins against Wisconsin and Northwestern. they were beating Michigan State in the Big Ten Title game until the last 20 seconds of the game. Yes, they did get blown out by Stanford

-Oklahoma State was blown off the field by Oklahoma, Ole Miss, and Baylor. Oklahoma State also played a complete joke of a schedule, playing the likes from the UTSA Roadrunners, the Central Arkansas Bears, and the Central Michigan Chipewas. Oklahoma State pads wins just like Penn State. Until the real teams come around and Penn State loses 55-16 against Michigan State and 38-10 to Ohio State. Creampuff schedulers those 2 are, just like Baylor.

 

[PhPanther1]

I quit reading that site years ago, after we got the Graham is good line, then Graham is bad and Chryst is good and acting like a real coach, and then we got the Youngstown State debacle.

I think the commitment to winning line ...or lack of it.....is the biggest myth spread here. This administration AND the last one are hamstrung by Pitts lack of revenue.
Hell, they did extend Narduzzi, who had a good start but hasn't done anything great yet and is still unproven.

Isn't that Reed's site? Why would anyobe waste their time on what that guy has to say. Oh, that's right....EJ gave him a pass to view practice, now he's an expert.

 

[PittPharmacy1989]

Im trying to understand a number of things.

1) How is the schedule tougher? Last year we played 6 road games, this year we play 5. Last year we played Iowa and Notre Dame OOC, 2 Top 10 teams, this year we play unranked Penn State at home and Top 25 Oklahoma State. This year there is a total of 2 maybe 3 Preseason Top 25 teams on the entire schedule, and Miami being one of those teams is borderline.

2) How is the Pitt talent depleted? Pitt returns more players off the 2 deep than any other team in the entire ACC. Pitt had the offensive and defensive freshmen players of the year in the ACC conference. And we have a nice recruiting class coming in.

3) James Conner didnt even play last year. You dont think his inspiration is going to inject fire into this team when he runs out onto the field?

4) Last year Pitt''s team gave up 182 points in ACC Conference games. That was 4th best in the entire conference. Last's year team lost on a 58 yard field goal to Iowa, a Top 10 team in the country.

5) Last years Pitt team was predicted to finish either dead last or 2nd to dead last in the ACC Coastal by almost everyone. We finished 2nd with a 1st year head Coach. For once, we have a Pitt football coach that I can say exceeded expectations, far exceeded them, especially when Conner was lost in the first game of the year.

6) 6 Wins next year? Over please, Im buying all day Pitt wins over 6 games next year.

I've been saying I don't really see this schedule as that much tougher than last year. We do step up in a couple of places but overall it is not significantly stronger than last year's and especially not as overwhelmingly difficult as some are suggestion will lead to a 6 win season. Obviously too early to make really solid predictions, but based on last year's teams and returning players/coaches here would be my very early predictions and comparisons to last year.

Villanova.......YSU - No significant difference. Win last year. W

PSU..............Louisville - Not sure PSU is much better than Louisville was last year W

@OSU..........@Iowa - OSU might be a tougher game, but it was a game we lost last year anyway. L

@UNC.........UNC - Road vs. home. Loss last year. Probably a L but I won't be surprised to pull out the W

Marshall........Akron - again upgrade here, but this to me is still a game we should win. in my opinion Marshall was not as good as their record. The schedule was not a strong schedule. W

Georgia Tech.....@Georgia Tech - playing at home should be to our advantage. Win last year. W

@Virginia........Virginia - away vs. home. Win last year. W

VaTech...........@VaTech - home vs. away. Win last year W

@Miami..........Miami - home vs. away. Loss last year Toss-up To me, this was probably the worst game we played all year last year.

@Clemson..........ND - away, stronger opponent but was a loss last year L

Duke............@Duke - home vs. away. Win last year. W

Syracuse........@Syracuse - home vs. away. Win last year. W

Why is it that so many Pitt fans expect our opposition to improve more than we will? Every team loses starters. Every team faces some adversity. So why is ours always expected to be "worse"? Hopefully we'll get Conner back, have a better line and a qb with a year of experience as a starter. I think with the second year of the coaching staff and many younger players getting experience, we are actually going to see a significant improvement in play for Pitt.

I see 8 wins this year. I can't pick us to lose this year to team's we beat last year. I know we could lose, but then again we could lose or win every single game. I also see a couple of games where we could change a L from last year to a W this year. I know it's too early to predict with accuracy without even seeing who the starters will be, or injuries that will occur between now and opening day, but based on what we know now this is how I feel.

 

[9nationalchampionships]

I am bullish on our FB and BB programs.

There is clearly a new path established and our school is spending the money to move the program forward. I expect a minimum of 7 wins this season and am hopeful of 9 wins. We have a revenue stream that our school has not known before…….ACC.

H2P

 

[steel_curtain]

I've been saying I don't really see this schedule as that much tougher than last year. We do step up in a couple of places but overall it is not significantly stronger than last year's and especially not as overwhelmingly difficult as some are suggestion will lead to a 6 win season. Obviously too early to make really solid predictions, but based on last year's teams and returning players/coaches here would be my very early predictions and comparisons to last year.

Villanova.......YSU - No significant difference. Win last year. W

PSU..............Louisville - Not sure PSU is much better than Louisville was last year W

@OSU..........@Iowa - OSU might be a tougher game, but it was a game we lost last year anyway. L

@UNC.........UNC - Road vs. home. Loss last year. Probably a L but I won't be surprised to pull out the W

Marshall........Akron - again upgrade here, but this to me is still a game we should win. in my opinion Marshall was not as good as their record. The schedule was not a strong schedule. W

Georgia Tech.....@Georgia Tech - playing at home should be to our advantage. Win last year. W

@Virginia........Virginia - away vs. home. Win last year. W

VaTech...........@VaTech - home vs. away. Win last year W

@Miami..........Miami - home vs. away. Loss last year Toss-up To me, this was probably the worst game we played all year last year.

@Clemson..........ND - away, stronger opponent but was a loss last year L

Duke............@Duke - home vs. away. Win last year. W

Syracuse........@Syracuse - home vs. away. Win last year. W

Why is it that so many Pitt fans expect our opposition to improve more than we will? Every team loses starters. Every team faces some adversity. So why is ours always expected to be "worse"? Hopefully we'll get Conner back, have a better line and a qb with a year of experience as a starter. I think with the second year of the coaching staff and many younger players getting experience, we are actually going to see a significant improvement in play for Pitt.

I see 8 wins this year. I can't pick us to lose this year to team's we beat last year. I know we could lose, but then again we could lose or win every single game. I also see a couple of games where we could change a L from last year to a W this year. I know it's too early to predict with accuracy without even seeing who the starters will be, or injuries that will occur between now and opening day, but based on what we know now this is how I feel.

-How many more wins would Pitt have got if Conner never got injured or sick last season? He was the 2014 Acc player of the year, and smashed the single season all time TD record in the acc. I'll say Pitt beats Iowa and Miami with a healthy Conner, and challenges North Carolina. Nobody in the acc has a player of this caliber when healthy. Nobody. And I don't care about Cook from Florida State, who has NFL bust written all over him just like Reggie bush.

 

[Jeffburgh]

I do think the schedule is a bit tougher, and as someone else noted, I suspect the offense could struggle, and the coastal got a good bit saltier w the new coaching hires.

But, the football program is in good hands, nards is the real deal, best football hire since sherill.

Hoops, I was among those who lost their $hit over stallings, but I am warming to him.

They get a proven coach, and he had the money to put a better staff around him that was better than he had at vandy.

 

[OriginalEther]

Main difference in the schedule is Marshall over Akron.
X factor are Coastal teams with new coaches.

 

[rc79]

Isn't that Reed's site? Why would anyobe waste their time on what that guy has to say. Oh, that's right....EJ gave him a pass to view practice, now he's an expert.

He's a very nice person but frankly has monkey crap between his ears when it comes to knowing anything about the game, college football in general, and what may or may not be happening to change the Pitt culture. As to the culture, there is a process under way he's simply not perceiving it. Which isn't a surprise.

Very much of the old loser Pitt Alum niche. "We can't" being their motto. If you really got the knowledge read it for laughs. Otherwise, just a strange read.

His big sources are Bostick and his Dad. They get together to bash Wanny from time. lol.

We're opening 2-0 so yinz relax. It's way to early to get into predictions but our schedule is much more in balance than a year ago. We had a brutal demand of hitting the road with a new staff then came home to play a Thursday on four days rest. And Narduzzi likes the way it's laid out.

 

[steel_curtain]

Main difference in the schedule is Marshall over Akron.
X factor are Coastal teams with new coaches.

-Which makes me more confident. Mark from Georgia has been a colossal bust the last 8 years. The Sec east has been pure garbage lately, and he still can't win. Look at the embarrassing losses that program has had lately at Georgia. The other guy Fuentes headed to Virginia Tech has a 27-23 coaching record, and has never coached in an power conference. I don't think either of them are all that good. Miami might be worse. Its about time Georgia dumped and fired him, he sucked there recently.

 

[wbrpanther]

of this year's FB team and of the new Pres's and AD's commitment on the blather blog--

Likely 6-6 finish this FB season belief of several based on spring game and fall schedule strength.

Prediction by one blog author that there is no commitment to spend the $$s necessary to hire or retain FB or BB coaches even if they become highly successful. Pitt likely unwilling to pay over about $2-2.5 million to any coach again no matter the success level.

Pretty depressing outlook if proven true.

You do know that a blog is only the opinion of one man, Right? Some shmoe from a bar can wright a blog. Why post it on a message board like it actually means something.

 

[Las Panteras]

-How many more wins would Pitt have got if Conner never got injured or sick last season? He was the 2014 Acc player of the year, and smashed the single season all time TD record in the acc. I'll say Pitt beats Iowa and Miami with a healthy Conner, and challenges North Carolina. Nobody in the acc has a player of this caliber when healthy. Nobody. And I don't care about Cook from Florida State, who has NFL bust written all over him just like Reggie bush.

uuhhhh.....Taj Boyd called.........

Said he will send Connor a postcard from New York City second weekend in December......

 

[TIGER-PAUL]

'based on the spring game' haha
Jamie was paid very well with a 10 yr contract
Narduzzi already given an extension
Who wrote this again?

 

[MajorMajors]

of this year's FB team and of the new Pres's and AD's commitment on the blather blog--

Likely 6-6 finish this FB season belief of several based on spring game and fall schedule strength.

Prediction by one blog author that there is no commitment to spend the $$s necessary to hire or retain FB or BB coaches even if they become highly successful. Pitt likely unwilling to pay over about $2-2.5 million to any coach again no matter the success level.

Pretty depressing outlook if proven true.

The Pitt football team will still have some significant flaws this season, but if Coach Duzz and his staff can put together 3 or 4 classes of similar quality to the last class, then Pitt is going to become more talented than it has been since the early 80s.

The key is keeping the same HC, OC and DC for the next 3 years -- if that happens, then this team is going to be well entrenched in the top 20, IMHO...

Go Pitt.

 

[big marty]

We already pay more than the premise of this thread so your wrong.

 

[big marty]

Stupid Stupid

 

[Saboteur]

Where is the committment from the fan base? That seems like a fair salary right now. If we win 10 or more games then we can re-evaluate, but the fans need to hold up their end as well.

I reed the blog. Hey, we have a tough schedule I get it and 6-6 is possible? Anything is possible.
But the guy who writes that acts as if he is Alger Hiss inside the inner sanctum of Pitt decision makers and then he rips them to pieces with predictions of low pay, bad intentions and mismanagement.
It is getting quite easy to ignore the Blabber.

 

[DruidTM]

-Which makes me more confident. Mark from Georgia has been a colossal bust the last 8 years. The Sec east has been pure garbage lately, and he still can't win. Look at the embarrassing losses that program has had lately at Georgia. The other guy Fuentes headed to Virginia Tech has a 27-23 coaching record, and has never coached in an power conference. I don't think either of them are all that good. Miami might be worse. Its about time Georgia dumped and fired him, he sucked there recently.

I'll say this living in Ga....haven't heard one Dawg fan complain all that much about losing Richt... Basically you hear he was"a good man who went to church"...I'm not sure that's a endorsement of his coaching or if that's even a good fit for Miami quite frankly...

 

[SoufOaklin4Life]

I dont know how that assessment is at all unbiased??

We spend FARRRRRR more money now on assistants and the program than we did just several years ago. Dixon was a case of letting him go... the guy was great, but come on, we never went past the sweet 16 in all those years. The writing was on the wall. We are spending more on assistants and we upped Narduzzi's pay.

Completely incorrect statement.

The 6-6 record? Could be true... I mean, who the heck knows? We could get several injuries and easily be 6-6 or we could catch breaks and be 10-2 and high index. Basing any opinion on some prediction this time of the season is just mind numbingly dumb

Okay...
Please quantify how much we spent on staff two years ago compared to now.
Thanks

Repeatedly saying so, doesn't make it true.

 

[pbrad]

of this year's FB team and of the new Pres's and AD's commitment on the blather blog--

Likely 6-6 finish this FB season belief of several based on spring game and fall schedule strength.

Prediction by one blog author that there is no commitment to spend the $$s necessary to hire or retain FB or BB coaches even if they become highly successful. Pitt likely unwilling to pay over about $2-2.5 million to any coach again no matter the success level.

Pretty depressing outlook if proven true.

Dixon was the 7th highest paid coach in the country.

 

[ThePanthers]

Link?

 

[thebadby2]

Re: the 2016 prediction, the team is in a perennial rebuilding mode: we had a decent offense, but the defense faltered. We're starting to build a decent defense, but we're overwhelmed by questions at QB, WR, and overall team depth.

Summarizing, we're still paying the price for the past decisions of the athletic department, the program-crushing "coaching carousel", and the lack of support from a frustrated and underwhelmed fan base.

Personally, I see Pitt eventually forking-up more money for coaching, but not until the wins come first. FWIW, I thought that Jamie was well paid, especially when one takes into consideration his March performances.

Perennial rebuilding mode is a very good way to put it. Unfortunately, even under the relatively long tenures of Wanny and WLAT, it still seems like we have never had all the necessary pieces of the puzzle at the same time. If we had a good RB and QB, we didn't have a good O line. Or if we had a solid O-line, we didn't have a good QB or RB, or a good D-line, etc. etc. We have had outstanding individual talent over the years, but never good overall team talent. Thus the results of the past couple of decades. This looks like another such year, I just don't think we have all the pieces. It will be a real testament to Narduzzi if he can duplicate last season;s record. The program he came from was somewhat similar to Pitt before Dantonio and Duzzi got there. Dooz has made no bones about the fact that he's trying to duplicate the MSU rebuild job as closely as possible here. Hopefully he can pull it off.

 

[VAPITTALUM]

uuhhhh.....Taj Boyd called.........

Said he will send Connor a postcard from New York City second weekend in December......

The guy who was drafted in the 6th round, and is now playing in the CFL?

 

[thebadby2]

I'll say this living in Ga....haven't heard one Dawg fan complain all that much about losing Richt... Basically you hear he was"a good man who went to church"...I'm not sure that's a endorsement of his coaching or if that's even a good fit for Miami quite frankly...

I do think he'll upgrade Miami pretty significantly. I think he';s a pretty solid coach, not one of the handful of top guys but just a tier under them--which is a helluva lot better than Golden.

Plus, now that he's in the Sin City of the South, he can stop with the whole church-guy charade, and go with the hookers and blow motif, a much better look for him.

 

[Swervin27]

they got all this info from watching the spring game?

 

[thebadby2]

-How many more wins would Pitt have got if Conner never got injured or sick last season? He was the 2014 Acc player of the year, and smashed the single season all time TD record in the acc. I'll say Pitt beats Iowa and Miami with a healthy Conner, and challenges North Carolina. Nobody in the acc has a player of this caliber when healthy. Nobody. And I don't care about Cook from Florida State, who has NFL bust written all over him just like Reggie bush.

What about Deshaun Watson? No question he's the undisputed best player in the conference, if not the country, and don't give me the "he'll suck in the NFL" line, because this isn't the NFL. It's college, where if you have a real difference maker at QB, you can go places. And Cook is outstanding, again, how he eventually does in the NFL is irrelevant., he;s a beast at FSU. I love how you throw Reggie Bush out there like he;s some chump. He was unbelievable at USC. And for the record, I think Cook will do just fine in the NFL.He has been awesome his first two years at FSU.

James is a great football player, a great representative of Pitt, and a great kid. Can't you just leave it at that? Why do you have to make these extreme, all-or-nothing statements?

As for counting wins that we "would have" had if our stud RB was healthy, that's just childish. Your posts are exaggerated and hyperbolic beyond the pale. It's like you can't comment on anything without making these kinds of grandiose, exaggerated claims. "Justice Kithcart is a WAY better player than Alkins, just WAIT until that RDU all-star game and you'll all see!"

 

[recruitsreadtheseboards]

It is funny. Everyone was so hip on Chambers and Barnes. "They get it". All of this talk And then Jamie feels the pressure because perhaps "they get it" were no longer feeling the half empty Pete and the declining basketball program and obviously Jamie wasn't feeling what seemed to be more questions and intrusion from the Administration and bailed.

So then............something happened with Sean Miller. We have more than a few fairly credible sources/posters who will swear on a stack of bibles that Miller or his camp and Pitt reaches out to each other. How far those discussions went, what happened is not known, but people (media) started to connect the dots and Pantherland was all abuzz because it was almost reported as a "done deal". It obviously wasn't. Then we hear "national search" and "Search Firm". To the best of my knowledge, Tom Izzo, Shaka Smart, Mike Brey, Jay Wright, John Calipari, etc....all were gainfully employed and not looking to dine on Primanti's sammiches.

Gregg Marshall has spurned down bigger jobs he didn't come. Neither did Uber Christian Bryce Drew. So the search committee was enacted and.......Kevin Stallings? WTF? Stallings has grown stale at Vandy, but Vandy is a hard place to excel. But we get a guy from a search firm headed by a guy who previously employed Barnes and was previously employed by Vandy. And now Pantherland is furious. Duped! Friends hiring friends! Lied to. First off, when were fans part of any coaching search? Secondly, who here in business doesn't try and use connections when possible? That is how business is conducted. It isn't some nefarious act.

And then the PC which Barnes did not acquit himself too well, but he was completely set up by a ridiculously rabid media with accusations more than questions.

And now Barnes sucks. Chambers don't care. And Pitt is Pitt again. I don't get it. You want to know the real reason why Pitt athletics sucks? Look in the mirror. All of you. You want the perfect Pitt guy to hire the perfect Pitt guy, and if he isn't a Pitt guy, well he better at least damn well appreciate fish sammiches at the local VFW during Lent (Narduzzi). So here we go, Pederson is gone, the same divisiveness is back among the fanbase and it will yield the same mediocrity.

 

[Swervin27]

a lot of people sang the praises of Barnes for reasons mainly being, he wan't Pederson.. He mailed out some surveys to fans and all of a sudden, he is in tune with the fanbase.. Got a couple fans together and this was some incredible feat, laughable to be honest.. Guy called the fanbase "Noise" and over promised us a coach when in reality, we took a guy that was getting canned from an average SEC program.. A lesson learned (I hope) and I am sure next time, he'll shut his trap, do his job in searching for a coach before shooting off his mouth to get headlines..

On a brighter side, think he did hire a good soccer coach (Buddy of mine who likes soccer says the dude is legit), so yeah for us on that..

 

[ThePanthers]

a lot of people sang the praises of Barnes for reasons mainly being, he wan't Pederson.. He mailed out some surveys to fans and all of a sudden, he is in tune with the fanbase.. Got a couple fans together and this was some incredible feat, laughable to be honest.. Guy called the fanbase "Noise" and over promised us a coach when in reality, we took a guy that was getting canned from an average SEC program.. A lesson learned (I hope) and I am sure next time, he'll shut his trap, do his job in searching for a coach before shooting off his mouth to get headlines..

On a brighter side, think he did hire a good soccer coach (Buddy of mine who likes soccer says the dude is legit), so yeah for us on that..

What did he over promise?

 

[damase2331]

The questions that Pitt has on Offense, I can live with when you have a veteran QB, a nice stable of RBs and maybe one of the best RBs in the country returning with an inspirational story to boot and a seasoned and hopefully dominant OL, should cover the warts that Pitt has on Offense (WR, TE depth).

My main concern isn't so much the Offense as it is the defense, and just because of lack of speed. However, I do see them improving with another year under the Narduzzi/Conklin and hopefully improved DL. The LBs and secondary are my main concern, but Whitehead has the chance to really be a total difference maker for this defense and cover alot of the problems in the back 7. I really like Soto to DT, I think his quickness will help there and he is experienced as college FB player being there every Saturday and getting significant PT the last few years. I can see 10-2, but don't expect it, but I definitely expect better than 6-6.

As for not spending, Pitt has brought in former coaches as consultants, or whatever these schools call them, just to watch tape on players. Pitt would have never done that in the past and that is what these schools do nowadays. I heard on sirius radio the other day that Alabama has like 13 of these guys on their staff just to watch video. I see more of a commitment to the program, now it may not be Alabama, but no one spends on their FB like they do other than OSU, Mich etc.

 

[wbrpanther]

Richt reminded me of Jamie Dixon. Ran a good, solid, winning program but could never win when it counted.

The only thing Richt couldn't do was be better than Nick Saban. Name someone who has been better than Nick Saban. His record was very good. Georgia fans are as stupid as any.