Some guys are great coordinators but cant perform in the spotlight
Foge, Walt, and absolutely Narduzzi
Been saying it for years
Foge, Walt, and absolutely Narduzzi
Been saying it for years
UVA loss on PN and staff
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A shanked chip shot from the Cal kicker
A few pulled out of the ass receptions against Cincy and WVU
This team is that close to 4-5
A few pulled out of the ass receptions against Cincy and WVU
This team is that close to 4-5
Narduzzi will be gone after 2025 season. Either via retirement or pushed out. Program is too stale and has already peaked with him.
When you start 7-0 and 3 of the final 6 include Syracuse and Virginia at home with BC on the road, 8-4 would be a pretty big disappointment. I completely get 9-3 with losses to SMU, Clemson, and Louisville, so Pitt needs to steal one of those now.
2 of perhaps the biggest miracle wins in Pitt history based on win percentage considering Cincy had a 98.6% chance of victory late in the 3rd snd WVU had a 98.9% chance of victory. Maybe we still come down and beat Cal but probably not. This isnt a good team. Should absolutely be 4-5.
It was also parents weekend. Im sure that helped attendance
Considering that this team is legitimately a few plays away from being 4-5, 8-4 sounds pretty good to me right now.
That is not to say losing the last 5 games of the year is not disappointing, though. It is.
I don't think there's anything wrong with placing expectations on this program and while they were a few plays from losing games, the fact is they still won them. Losing 4 of 5 would be extremely disappointing.
It's just so frustrating. I get breaks happen in football, but just literally every time this program is on the cusp of something, they don't achieve it. 2009.....Wanny had a chance to win the Big East, finish top 10. didn't happen. 2016, a bowl win would have guaranteed the first top 25 finish since 2009, didn't happen. Even 2021, great season, but still could have finished top 10 and the 1st team with less than 3 losses since Sherrill's teams and it didn't happen. 2022, could have gone to Charlotte again but had a 3-game losing streak to three middling ACC teams.
So yeah, I get expectations were low coming into the season and the 7-0 start was beyond everyone's wildest dreams. But the goalposts can move and the opportunity was there to make this a really special season. Another wasted opportunity. Wash, rinse, repeat.
If they would have got a hand on the edge guy or varied the snap count on Saul's field goal that was blocked, we probably win easily. However, we are Pitt, and any Pitt fan with years of experience, knows to expect mistakes like this that cost us games. As a fan now for so long, I have watched this game so many times before and knew the outcome long before it was actually over. It is the same over and over and over again. Does the Wake game from last year ring a bell? It's the Murphy's law thing, I think the guy was a Pitt fan who created the law while watching Pitt football.
Wait a minute didn't Virginia go for Harris but PA went for Trump? Refs have ties with the CIA. Russian oligarchs are major donors to U VA.... I smell a conspiracy.
I don't understand how someone could think that if the ACC was deciding who to tell the refs to cheat for that they would pick the team that is going to struggle to become bowl eligible at the expense of the team with an outside shot at the college football playoff, a team that if they won last night would have set up a big game on ESPN next week between two top 20-ish teams.
That's got to be one of the more "interesting" examples of the world-wide conspiracy against Pitt that anyone has ever come up with.
I think you understand completely how someone could think that, you’re just trying to be somewhat diplomatic and not come out and say it.
I think we tend to speak the same language, even in disagreement. And when trading insults. 🥸
He certainly does get as much respect as those other guys outside of Pittsburgh. They all win at reasonably good clip and programs that can't compete for high end talent.
Have you watched Iowa's offense the last few years? Did you watch ISU get bombed by a 2 win team last night? Mark Stoops? Are you freaking kidding?
Disorganized clown shows are a perfect definition of college football. That's what the sport has always been, and it's amplified now in the era of the transfer portal. Did you see the shit Kirby Smart & Brian Kelly rolled out there on the field last night?
Details, especially special team details, have never been a Narduzzi strength…but now that he has an iPad, who knows.
Only if you start 4-4. How is 1-4 down the stretch OK? The hideous losing this fan base tolerates is Pirate-esque.
Right, and you need to beat them wherever they are on the schedule. So you expect or are OK with losing? That's where we differ.
But this is a typical Pitt farse-ification of the most promising season since I was a toddler. Winning out after SMU would have been mildly acceptable. This trash is not.
Thankfully hoops is here, and they've brought me much happiness over the past 25 years. I'll be at the wvu game next Friday. Was hoping this was the year football mattered after hoops started. But, silly me.
You can't have a roster that's in the middle of the NIL pack in the ACC and expect good football. Santa Claus isn't real.
I’m not sure how the coaches can be blamed for something as basic as pre-snap penalties. At what point do the players -yes, the players - take the responsibility for something that should be second-nature by the latter half of the season?
These professional players should be able to break a huddle, line-up, and run a play on a snap count without difficulty. It’s really that simple.
The same thing as dropped passes: when your quarterback is getting minimal time to set-up and throw, it behooves the receiver to help his quarterback when the quarterback throws a catchable ball. A dropped pass is more of a reflection of the receiver, and not the coaching staff.
These professional players should be able to break a huddle, line-up, and run a play on a snap count without difficulty. It’s really that simple.
The same thing as dropped passes: when your quarterback is getting minimal time to set-up and throw, it behooves the receiver to help his quarterback when the quarterback throws a catchable ball. A dropped pass is more of a reflection of the receiver, and not the coaching staff.
So was Syracuse, Virginia, and Boston College. No shame in finishing 3-3 and 9-3 overall. They're going to need an upset to get to that point. Maybe they'll surprise us.
If you start 0-7 and win the last 5, finishing 5-7 still blows.
7-0 was a very nice start. They had a favorable schedule early and took care of business. Everyone knew the schedule was backend loaded.
This team was never an ACC championship caliber team, or anywhere near a playoff team. Coming off 3-9 with all the question marks, 8-4 is a successful season. Maybe disappointing after being 7-0, but it's a good season.
Nah….Ws and Ls aside the team has gotten worse. This isn’t a case of a team playing good FB and losing( which factors heavily into my opinion)….they haven’t even showed up the last 2 weeks, and the last loss was against a bottom feeder. You can’t lose that game! That’s the key point you are missing……the trajectory we are seeing here has nothing to do with the schedule and the team keeps getting worse. The offensive collapse and sloppy, listless and mistake filled play has increased game by game and is on the coaches. 8-4 simply trumpets a late season collapse. Bottom line is that a team under a good HC improves over the course of a season. We are seeing the exact opposite….and this even sets a lousy tone going into next year.
The OL has been ravaged by injuries, and it was a weak unit to begin with. That's a RS FR QB out there playing behind that line.
The defense has improved for the most part. And they are really young on that side of the ball.
Look….the O has fallen off a cliff in 5 weeks, the team came out flat the last 2 weeks, overall team play has become sloppy, mistake riddled and fundamentally poor, and game planning has been poor. I’m not about to write this mess off simply as a young team coming back to earth or a team succumbing to injuries. Blocked FGs, illegal procedure penalties, DL linemen lining up off side, WRs developing stone hands, utilization of 2 running plays, blitzing a lousy QB on third and 15 and completely revamping the OL from top to bottom( a rarity) ……the play the last 5 weeks is on this staff. As I said above, I could be satisfied with a 9-3 team after a 7-0 start if they were playing good FB……they’re a mess right now.
The offense hasn't fallen off a cliff. It's never been very good. It's never been able to sustain drives. Now, they aren't getting quite as many explosive plays. Squeaking out wins against 5-4 Cincinnati & WVU isn't drastically different than losing a game on the last possession to a 5-4 Virginia game. The biggest difference is that you expected Pitt to suck and was just hoping Pitt could somehow win those games. Now, you probably have a different perception and expected to Pitt to beat Virginia, and probably beat them soundly.
Dude, those mistakes and everything you've mentioned DEFINE the game of college football. It's even more pronounced than ever in the portal era.
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Going from an average of over 300 yards passing per game and 3 tds per game thru the air to half or less of those numbers is falling off of a cliff. Go back to what I said above…well coached teams improve over the course of the year. This team played 5 games at a certain level of overall team play…they have slipped in all facets of play the last month. That’s the basis of my assessment. Your assessment has no contextual basis, ie weighing how they played for 5 games and comparing that caliber of play to that of the last month. You’re just in the camp Of Pitt only had 7 win talent to begin with so that winning one of the last 5 games is not a reflection on the staff….that’s pure unadulterated BS!
And contrary to what you say, the garbage we saw Saturday night does not “ define” college FB as a whole…it defines poorly coached teams.
I'm not missing any points. Everyone knew they had to make hay early to have any chance at a positive season, because their tough games were at the end of the season.
Your premise is stupid. Like coming in 4-4 and beating UVA would have been better as long as you thought they were improving.
You have no point…just a mediocrity accepting Narduzzi apologist conjuring up dumb rationalizations for a team’s collapse. Winning one game out of the last 5 reeks … Va and BC stink!
College football is a sloppy-ass sport, filled with stupid penalties, mistakes, misreads, overthrows, and dumbass things you have to see to believe. There's also a lot of great plays. Almost every game has wild swings all over the spectrum. That's the essence of the sport and what makes it so fun, actually.
Anyone who starts a post with "Ws and Ls aside" is the one that has no point. It's all about Ws and Ls.
And next time they win, you will go back to bitching about an on campus stadium. Narduzzi haters are predictable.
I have that same question too..
some people are just dumb.
Anyone who thought this teams was "good" just has no idea what they're looking at. They beat some very poor teams. There were warts all over the place that those teams couldn't exploit. Now, they're playing some decent teams and it's not a coincidence they're struggling.
These kind of fans are the same ones who are amped when PITT bball racks up some kind of crazy OOC schedule playing the likes Niagra, St. Boneventure, IUP, Delaware State, etc. only to expect to keep that rolling vs. UNC, UCONN, Duke, Syracuse, etc......
