Walker off the board?

[DC_Area_Panther]

24/7 now has him 87% to Miami and 0% to Pitt and other finalists.

Wahab is now 66% to Pitt 0% to others.

Wahab is now our only CB. We really need 2 bigs in this class. Any hope for anyone now that Walker appears to be a long shot?

 

[Sean Miller Fan]

24/7 now has him 87% to Miami and 0% to Pitt and other finalists.

Wahab is now 66% to Pitt 0% to others.

Wahab is now our only CB. We really need 2 bigs in this class. Any hope for anyone now that Walker appears to be a long shot?

The other big dog, Jerry Meyer switched his prediction from Pitt to Miami. Walker does indeed appear to be off the board.

Miami and NC State are the 2 schools that are always thorns in Pitt's side on the trail.

People will not want to hear this but Stallings had a better start to his first class landing Top 100ish Marcus Carr. He didn't follow that up with any substance but just saying, that was a solid early verbal. There is a long way to go but right now, Capel's first full class isn't going great. Someoe else said Pitt is 1 of only 3 ACC schools without a verbal. Sounds a bit like football

 

[Drew1208]

I'm not worried, however if we lose Qudus.
Then I'd be worried.
Lots of shuffling and moving pieces yet to come before 2019.

 

[Sean Miller Fan]

I'm not worried, however if we lose Qudus.
Then I'd be worried.
Lots of shuffling and moving pieces yet to come before 2019.

Definitely need 1 quality big who can come in and play. Those "developmental" guys rarely work out

 

[steel_curtain]

-Not according to Corey Evans. I would find it absolutely hilarious if Walker goes to Miami, Akok goes to Pitt, then Miami gets drilled on a multi year NCAA Tournament ban for cheating and paying players in the FBI scandal. The FBI scandal is far from over, someone is going to pay the price and as it stands Louisville is in a deep pile of dogshit. Miami may join them

 

[Drew1208]

Definitely need 1 quality big who can come in and play. Those "developmental" guys rarely work out

I agree we do need one. Not getting one of these good ones would be crippling. I have confidence though.

 

[pitt2533]

-Not according to Corey Evans. I would find it absolutely hilarious if Walker goes to Miami, Akok goes to Pitt, then Miami gets drilled on a multi year NCAA Tournament ban for cheating and paying players in the FBI scandal. The FBI scandal is far from over, someone is going to pay the price and as it stands Louisville is in a deep pile of dogshit. Miami may join them

I wish these cheating schools like Lousiville and Miami would get absolutely hammered but we know it is not going to happen.

 

[steel_curtain]

I agree we do need one. Not getting one of these good ones would be crippling. I have confidence though.

-Plenty of players still on the board not including spring and the transfer market.

-Plenty of players may come back to the board when this FBI scandal is over and schools get mauled with penalties / Tournament ban

-Plenty of time

I wish these cheating schools like Lousiville and Miami would get absolutely hammered but we know it is not going to happen.

-It wasnt long ago Syracuse was hit with a 3 player scholarship ban for 4 years and Jim Boeheim was suspended

-Louisville was banned from the NCAA Tournament several years ago. As was Uconn

-This is Miami basketball we are talking about. They arent even in the same stratosphere as Louisville, Syracuse, and Uconn.

 

[jrosenal]

You guys are all nuts....capel is a stud recruiter. Give him time. Your judging him on 2 classes in less than 1 year...every top end coach says the same thing about him ....ace recrutier. Its takes time. We have a top level coach at pitt. Be happy. It may take 3 years before you see it but behind the scenes he is making waves. It's like a top level sales person, when he switches jobs. It takes a couple of years. It's not how you start, it's the consistency every day that matters. In the long run this is a home run hire. Sit back and enjoy the ride back to the top. I personally think the question is can capel in game coach.

 

[DiehardPanther]

If you are a Pitt fan, then you better hope Capel can deliver big-time recruits. Otherwise, that is a clear sign that the problem is Pitt and we may never be anything more than a bottom feeder in the ACC.

 

[hoopsguy72]

If you are a Pitt fan, then you better hope Capel can deliver big-time recruits. Otherwise, that is a clear sign that the problem is Pitt and we may never be anything more than a bottom feeder in the ACC.

Ain't that the truth. If Capel can't do it at Pitt, then it *generally* can't be done, save coaches who are, themselves, brands (K, Calipari, and a very small handful of others).

 

[PittAU]

-Not according to Corey Evans. I would find it absolutely hilarious if Walker goes to Miami, Akok goes to Pitt, then Miami gets drilled on a multi year NCAA Tournament ban for cheating and paying players in the FBI scandal. The FBI scandal is far from over, someone is going to pay the price and as it stands Louisville is in a deep pile of dogshit. Miami may join them

I hope you are correct!

 

[Sean Miller Fan]

If you are a Pitt fan, then you better hope Capel can deliver big-time recruits. Otherwise, that is a clear sign that the problem is Pitt and we may never be anything more than a bottom feeder in the ACC.

Ain't that the truth. If Capel can't do it at Pitt, then it *generally* can't be done, save coaches who are, themselves, brands (K, Calipari, and a very small handful of others).

I wouldn't say that necessarily. Just need a coach (or assistant) who will get his hands dirty. Look at that class Chambers bought. Capel may be reluctant to do that after what happened at OU.

Basically you need an assistant coach or 2 like Jamie has at TCU where you know they are doing dirty stuff you "don't know."

And BTW, Andrew Slater just CB'd Wahad to Gtown.

 

[JohnnyGossamer]

I'll take a wait and see. He landed a three pretty impressive gets very, very late in the cycle last year. I have confidence.

 

[Sean Miller Fan]

I'll take a wait and see. He landed a three pretty impressive gets very, very late in the cycle last year. I have confidence.

Yes that was impressive. He could do it again. Last year he had no choice. But its best to not whiff on everyone early like Narduzzi and Dixon.

 

[below0w]

People will not want to hear this but Stallings had a better start to his first class landing Top 100ish Marcus Carr. He didn't follow that up with any substance but just saying, that was a solid early verbal. There is a long way to go but right now, Capel's first full class isn't going great. Someoe else said Pitt is 1 of only 3 ACC schools without a verbal. Sounds a bit like football

People generally don't like to hear things that are provably false. Marcus Carr was ranked 146 in the 247 composite for 2017. Capel has already pulled in two players in his first class that are ranked more highly in 2018 (Trey McGowens at 95 and Au'Diese Toney at 118). Are you seriously pretending that that wasn't Capel's first real class? It was ranked 41st overall (which is impressive given that there were only 3 recruits) and had an average rating of 0.9303. Stallings' class, which you're talking up here for some bizarre reason, was ranked 51st (despite being more than twice the size of Capel's first class) with an average rating of 0.8739. Capel is most certainly not behind Stallings' pace.

More to the point, Capel can recruit. This is not in doubt. Maybe he can't coach, maybe he can't run a disciplined program, but he's more than proven he can bring in talent. Do you really have no better use for your nervous energy than to worry about something that isn't worth worrying about? Did I wander into some bizarro world pocket dimension?

 

[Sean Miller Fan]

People will not want to hear this but Stallings had a better start to his first class landing Top 100ish Marcus Carr. He didn't follow that up with any substance but just saying, that was a solid early verbal. There is a long way to go but right now, Capel's first full class isn't going great. Someoe else said Pitt is 1 of only 3 ACC schools without a verbal. Sounds a bit like football

People generally don't like to hear things that are provably false. Marcus Carr was ranked 146 in the 247 composite for 2017. Capel has already pulled in two players in his first class that are ranked more highly in 2018 (Trey McGowens at 95 and Au'Diese Toney at 118). Are you seriously pretending that that wasn't Capel's first real class? It was ranked 41st overall (which is impressive given that there were only 3 recruits) and had an average rating of 0.9303. Stallings' class, which you're talking up here for some bizarre reason, was ranked 51st (despite being more than twice the size of Capel's first class) with an average rating of 0.8739. Capel is most certainly not behind Stallings' pace.

More to the point, Capel can recruit. This is not in doubt. Maybe he can't coach, maybe he can't run a disciplined program, but he's more than proven he can bring in talent. Do you really have no better use for your nervous energy than to worry about something that isn't worth worrying about? Did I wander into some bizarro world pocket dimension?

Settle down. Marcus Carr was ranked #101 by Rivals and I believe was in the 90s when he verballed. That was a solid 1st verbal in Stallings's first class. It made me think that maybe Stallings could recruit. I was wrong and that class sucked but nobody can dispute that Carr wasn't a solid verbal under any HC in any situation.

In my post, I was comparing the start of Capel's first true class to Stallings's. Why does that hurt your feelings. I am not debating that Capel did very well last spring while Stallings did squat in recruiting his first spring. Considering the circumstances, Capel couldn't have done any better. But if.....and I do mean if.....Capel doesn’t land a Top 100ish in the early signing period, his first true class (and by true I mean one where you go through 1 entire recruiting cycle as the HC), will have less Top 100ish players than Stallings. Probably a meaningless stat, probably won't even happen but its a message board and I found it interesting that Stallings got a solid recruit in Carr pretty early

 

[SoufOaklin4Life]

People generally don't like to hear things that are provably false. Marcus Carr was ranked 146 in the 247 composite for 2017. Capel has already pulled in two players in his first class that are ranked more highly in 2018 (Trey McGowens at 95 and Au'Diese Toney at 118). Are you seriously pretending that that wasn't Capel's first real class? It was ranked 41st overall (which is impressive given that there were only 3 recruits) and had an average rating of 0.9303. Stallings' class, which you're talking up here for some bizarre reason, was ranked 51st (despite being more than twice the size of Capel's first class) with an average rating of 0.8739. Capel is most certainly not behind Stallings' pace.

More to the point, Capel can recruit. This is not in doubt. Maybe he can't coach, maybe he can't run a disciplined program, but he's more than proven he can bring in talent. Do you really have no better use for your nervous energy than to worry about something that isn't worth worrying about? Did I wander into some bizarro world pocket dimension?

Smf isn’t attached to reality.

 

[SoufOaklin4Life]

Settle down. Marcus Carr was ranked #101 by Rivals and I believe was in the 90s when he verballed. That was a solid 1st verbal in Stallings's first class. It made me think that maybe Stallings could recruit. I was wrong and that class sucked but nobody can dispute that Carr wasn't a solid verbal under any HC in any situation.

In my post, I was comparing the start of Capel's first true class to Stallings's. Why does that hurt your feelings. I am not debating that Capel did very well last spring while Stallings did squat in recruiting his first spring. Considering the circumstances, Capel couldn't have done any better. But if.....and I do mean if.....Capel doesn’t land a Top 100ish in the early signing period, his first true class (and by true I mean one where you go through 1 entire recruiting cycle as the HC), will have less Top 100ish players than Stallings. Probably a meaningless stat, probably won't even happen but its a message board and I found it interesting that Stallings got a solid recruit in Carr pretty early

It’s meaningless because capel’s First class is on campus.

Take a break from posting

 

[Sean Miller Fan]

Settle down. Marcus Carr was ranked #101 by Rivals and I believe was in the 90s when he verballed. That was a solid 1st verbal in Stallings's first class. It made me think that maybe Stallings could recruit. I was wrong and that class sucked but nobody can dispute that Carr wasn't a solid verbal under any HC in any situation.

In my post, I was comparing the start of Capel's first true class to Stallings's. Why does that hurt your feelings. I am not debating that Capel did very well last spring while Stallings did squat in recruiting his first spring. Considering the circumstances, Capel couldn't have done any better. But if.....and I do mean if.....Capel doesn’t land a Top 100ish in the early signing period, his first true class (and by true I mean one where you go through 1 entire recruiting cycle as the HC), will have less Top 100ish players than Stallings. Probably a meaningless stat, probably won't even happen but its a message board and I found it interesting that Stallings got a solid recruit in Carr pretty early

It’s meaningless because capel’s First class is on campus.

Take a break from posting

Duh. I was comparing Capel's and Stallings's first "full recruiting cycle" class. That's allowes

 

[SoufOaklin4Life]

Duh. I was comparing Capel's and Stallings's first "full recruiting cycle" class. That's allowes

And capel has already far surpassed Stallings in his first 3 recruits compared to a full year of Stallings.
Duh

Take a break.
Everyone knows you’re silly.
You don’t have to keep proving it.

 

[TheLogicalTake]

Settle down. Marcus Carr was ranked #101 by Rivals and I believe was in the 90s when he verballed. That was a solid 1st verbal in Stallings's first class. It made me think that maybe Stallings could recruit. I was wrong and that class sucked but nobody can dispute that Carr wasn't a solid verbal under any HC in any situation.

In my post, I was comparing the start of Capel's first true class to Stallings's. Why does that hurt your feelings. I am not debating that Capel did very well last spring while Stallings did squat in recruiting his first spring. Considering the circumstances, Capel couldn't have done any better. But if.....and I do mean if.....Capel doesn’t land a Top 100ish in the early signing period, his first true class (and by true I mean one where you go through 1 entire recruiting cycle as the HC), will have less Top 100ish players than Stallings. Probably a meaningless stat, probably won't even happen but its a message board and I found it interesting that Stallings got a solid recruit in Carr pretty early

I mostly agree here. Carr was a much bigger get than most realize...I believe Bilas or someone similar had him on his Freshman Watch List last year. He was a victim of circumstance and got thrown into the fire far too early here, but I’ll be interested how he fares out in Minnesota. Like most young kids, he needs to find consistency but I always loved his poise last year in a pretty crappy situation.

As for Walker....yeah, he’s gone. It’s crazy how Miami and Louisville have recruited around the FBI investigation.

On Wahab, we need to hope he comes out of the UConn visit this weekend still with Pitt ahead. They’re putting on a big sell for Akok and have their 2 guard commits on campus for their mdnight madness-type event to try to close with him. I’ve always thought they viewed Wahab as a backup to Cockburn but I think it’s to the point where they are ramping up theor efforts on Wahab and Mitchell to get a big man commit before Cockburn ends up at UK when they strike out on their first several choices. I still think we’re in good shape here with Wahab, however.

 

[steel_curtain]

Settle down. Marcus Carr was ranked #101 by Rivals and I believe was in the 90s when he verballed. That was a solid 1st verbal in Stallings's first class. It made me think that maybe Stallings could recruit. I was wrong and that class sucked but nobody can dispute that Carr wasn't a solid verbal under any HC in any situation.

In my post, I was comparing the start of Capel's first true class to Stallings's. Why does that hurt your feelings. I am not debating that Capel did very well last spring while Stallings did squat in recruiting his first spring. Considering the circumstances, Capel couldn't have done any better. But if.....and I do mean if.....Capel doesn’t land a Top 100ish in the early signing period, his first true class (and by true I mean one where you go through 1 entire recruiting cycle as the HC), will have less Top 100ish players than Stallings. Probably a meaningless stat, probably won't even happen but its a message board and I found it interesting that Stallings got a solid recruit in Carr pretty early

-Marcus Carr had very little athletic ability and was a complete disaster on defense. If he was on a team with athletes that had Sam Young, Gil Brown, and Dejaun Blair, he would be ok and all the holes in his game wouldnt look so bad. He doesnt have the skill or athletic ability to carry a team. He is like Ashton Gibbs. Gibbs was good on offense when Wanamaker shouldered and carried the team. When Gibbs had to shoulder the offense, he was garbage and so was the team.

-The high school ranking means nothing in college. Anyone with vision can see Carr had some skill with next to zero athleticism. Anyone with vision can see the 3 players Capel brought in have far more athletic ability. Our point guard last year could barely touch the rim. Our point guard this year dunks from the foul line. Which one do you want? I know which one I want.

 

[H2P 2003]

I seem to remember stallings getting here, and saying you couldn’t sign anyone that late. Capel came in and actually put together a decent class..stallings focused on keeping kithcart and manigault, then promptly tried to run them off the team.

 

[Sean Miller Fan]

Settle down. Marcus Carr was ranked #101 by Rivals and I believe was in the 90s when he verballed. That was a solid 1st verbal in Stallings's first class. It made me think that maybe Stallings could recruit. I was wrong and that class sucked but nobody can dispute that Carr wasn't a solid verbal under any HC in any situation.

In my post, I was comparing the start of Capel's first true class to Stallings's. Why does that hurt your feelings. I am not debating that Capel did very well last spring while Stallings did squat in recruiting his first spring. Considering the circumstances, Capel couldn't have done any better. But if.....and I do mean if.....Capel doesn’t land a Top 100ish in the early signing period, his first true class (and by true I mean one where you go through 1 entire recruiting cycle as the HC), will have less Top 100ish players than Stallings. Probably a meaningless stat, probably won't even happen but its a message board and I found it interesting that Stallings got a solid recruit in Carr pretty early

-Marcus Carr had very little athletic ability and was a complete disaster on defense. If he was on a team with athletes that had Sam Young, Gil Brown, and Dejaun Blair, he would be ok and all the holes in his game wouldnt look so bad. He doesnt have the skill or athletic ability to carry a team. He is like Ashton Gibbs. Gibbs was good on offense when Wanamaker shouldered and carried the team. When Gibbs had to shoulder the offense, he was garbage and so was the team.

-The high school ranking means nothing in college. Anyone with vision can see Carr had some skill with next to zero athleticism. Anyone with vision can see the 3 players Capel brought in have far more athletic ability. Our point guard last year could barely touch the rim. Our point guard this year dunks from the foul line. Which one do you want? I know which one I want.

Carr is a more than capable ACC guard. While he may not be an all-conference player, he had that potential. Put him at the 2, and I think he's a 14-15 PPG guy. As for defense, come on.

Carr vs XJ - I don't know yet but I do know that Carr was a good player

 

[steel_curtain]

Carr is a more than capable ACC guard. While he may not be an all-conference player, he had that potential. Put him at the 2, and I think he's a 14-15 PPG guy. As for defense, come on.

Carr vs XJ - I don't know yet but I do know that Carr was a good player

-Marcus Carr ACC only stats

8.3 points per game
32% FG percentage
23% 3 point percentage
4 assist per game
2.7 turnovers per game
2.7 rebounds per game

-There is literally nothing good about that except the assists. And its a fact that he and Parker Stewart were 2 of the worst defensive players Ive ever seen at Pitt. If you dont believe me go to espn and watch the first game highlight 2 minute highlight clip of Pitt vs Navy last year. Carr got his ankles broke so bad on a crossover it was flat out disgusting.

-If you think those stats are good, well, thats you.

 

[Sean Miller Fan]

Carr is a more than capable ACC guard. While he may not be an all-conference player, he had that potential. Put him at the 2, and I think he's a 14-15 PPG guy. As for defense, come on.

Carr vs XJ - I don't know yet but I do know that Carr was a good player

-Marcus Carr ACC only stats

8.3 points per game
32% FG percentage
23% 3 point percentage
4 assist per game
2.7 turnovers per game
2.7 rebounds per game

-There is literally nothing good about that except the assists. And its a fact that he and Parker Stewart were 2 of the worst defensive players Ive ever seen at Pitt. If you dont believe me go to espn and watch the first game highlight 2 minute highlight clip of Pitt vs Navy last year. Carr got his ankles broke so bad on a crossover it was flat out disgusting.

-If you think those stats are good, well, thats you.

Please stop talking about defense. Please.

And I don't know what you don't understand about Marcus Carr being a freshman playing out of position. He isnt a natural PG. That said, those numbers are ok for a freshman on a historically bad team.

Carr is a good player. He will be a 14-15 PPG game guy eventually at Minnesota

 

[steel_curtain]

Please stop talking about defense. Please.

And I don't know what you don't understand about Marcus Carr being a freshman playing out of position. He isnt a natural PG. That said, those numbers are ok for a freshman on a historically bad team.

Carr is a good player. He will be a 14-15 PPG game guy eventually at Minnesota

-Why would I stop talking about defense? Its half the game of basketball and he sucked at it. Its funny and ironic that Capel keeps talking and stressing defense and pressure on ball defense for this years team. Grant Hill was down at Pitt talking about defense to the Pitt players. Stallings doesnt know defense is part of basketball, we know that. And Pitt was horrific on defense last year

-As for Carr being out of position, he has next to no athletic ability. A quality taller 2 guard is going to shred him even worse on defense

-If Carr averaged 30 points per game with the shooting percentages he put up this past year, he's still garbage. His turnovers are also a major problem. At least Gibbs could shoot 3's. 23% from 3 is the equivalent of Jamie Dixon putting Cam Wright at the 2.

 

[pittzap]

Carr is a more than capable ACC guard. While he may not be an all-conference player, he had that potential. Put him at the 2, and I think he's a 14-15 PPG guy. As for defense, come on.

Carr vs XJ - I don't know yet but I do know that Carr was a good player

Put him at the 2? He can't shoot and doesn't finish at the rim well, if he can even get around someone to the rim. 14-15 ppg? Come on!

He does not have the potential to have been an all ACC player.

 

[HailToPitt1985]

Carr is a more than capable ACC guard. While he may not be an all-conference player, he had that potential. Put him at the 2, and I think he's a 14-15 PPG guy. As for defense, come on.

Carr vs XJ - I don't know yet but I do know that Carr was a good player

For Carr to be a capable ACC guard, he has to be able to....you know....GUARD. He wasn't capable of doing that, at least on an ACC level. He played less than half of the game of basketball since he couldn't play defense and wasn't able to rebound. And he was inconsistent and mediocre in scoring offense. He proved to be a player that in reality, should have been ranked somewhere around 200, not 101 or 150 or whatever he was ranked.

It's irrelevant now, though. He's not here and we have much better options now that he's gone.

 

[HailToPitt1985]

Please stop talking about defense. Please.

And I don't know what you don't understand about Marcus Carr being a freshman playing out of position. He isnt a natural PG. That said, those numbers are ok for a freshman on a historically bad team.

Carr is a good player. He will be a 14-15 PPG game guy eventually at Minnesota

Why stop talking about defense? It's more than half of the game of basketball. Not only does it help to stop the opponent from scoring, it also generates transition opportunities and offense. It's well known that a good to great defensive team has the best chance of being in EVERY game they play and winning those games compared to a Stallings type team that just throws up shots and doesn't know how to play defense while getting blown out by 30 by some mediocre opponent. If Capel can teach and coach these kids to play strong, shut down defense and play transition basketball off of that defense, he'll start to win games immediately, regardless of the star level of the players.

 

[Chescat]

Why stop talking about defense? It's more than half of the game of basketball. Not only does it help to stop the opponent from scoring, it also generates transition opportunities and offense. It's well known that a good to great defensive team has the best chance of being in EVERY game they play and winning those games compared to a Stallings type team that just throws up shots and doesn't know how to play defense while getting blown out by 30 by some mediocre opponent. If Capel can teach and coach these kids to play strong, shut down defense and play transition basketball off of that defense, he'll start to win games immediately, regardless of the star level of the players.

Good post!
If Capel can do what you suggested regarding defense, I agree he'll start to win games immediately. However even if he does, star level does have some degree of importance. Once we hit the ACC part of the schedule, it's gonna take more than
great D to win against most of the teams. The talent level between us and most
ACC teams is very great. I feel that Capel will actually accomplish what you're
suggesting regarding defense. It hopefully will be strong, but I doubt that he can
get it to the "shut down" level in this conference. IMO, there's just too much of
a talent difference. There's no way IMO that we can "shut" most of those teams "down." With that said, yes... I see a few wins in conference. Anything more
than two and he deserves coach of the year honors. LOL
The OCC games will tell us a lot...especially games vs Iowa, WVU, and even
St.Louis. Those three teams may not be ACC championship teams, but if
Capel gets his players to do what you suggested against them (especially against WVU), then I'll have a little more hope.

 

[Sean Miller Fan]

Please stop talking about defense. Please.

And I don't know what you don't understand about Marcus Carr being a freshman playing out of position. He isnt a natural PG. That said, those numbers are ok for a freshman on a historically bad team.

Carr is a good player. He will be a 14-15 PPG game guy eventually at Minnesota

Why stop talking about defense? It's more than half of the game of basketball. Not only does it help to stop the opponent from scoring, it also generates transition opportunities and offense. It's well known that a good to great defensive team has the best chance of being in EVERY game they play and winning those games compared to a Stallings type team that just throws up shots and doesn't know how to play defense while getting blown out by 30 by some mediocre opponent. If Capel can teach and coach these kids to play strong, shut down defense and play transition basketball off of that defense, he'll start to win games immediately, regardless of the star level of the players.

Because he was a freshman playing for a bad coach. Even Dixon used to say it took time for players to play D at this level. Carr is a good player. You people are out of your minds

 

[Chescat]

Because he was a freshman playing for a bad coach. Even Dixon used to say it took time for players to play D at this level. Carr is a good player. You people are out of your minds

Watching Carr, I could see the talent. IMO he was the most talented player on
the team. However his actual performance didn't really show it. I attribute this
to the fact that he was thrown into the fire because there were no other
options. IMO he's not a true PG, where he had to play while at Pitt. Also as a
frosh he simply wasn't ready to play so many minutes at this level. Is he an
ACC player? IMO, maybe as an off guard, and certainly not as a starter

 

[King Of All Message Boards]

Carr was no Kithcart - that I can tell you.

 

[Fsgolfdr]

Arguing about Carr , Stallings , JC is pointless .
First off unless your bidding your time waiting for the NBA very few freshman and that includes everyone of last yr players and just about every other freshman in the country aren't ready for full time play in the ACC . Now you also have to add in the fact that the Pitt freshman had zero upperclassmen support . Carr , Stewert , Stevenson and Brown performed admirably considering the circumstances .
There's fierce competition for these kids ,JC will land
some . It will take a few classes to get things rolling be patient or be disappointed ...Your choice.

 

[Sean Miller Fan]

Because he was a freshman playing for a bad coach. Even Dixon used to say it took time for players to play D at this level. Carr is a good player. You people are out of your minds

Watching Carr, I could see the talent. IMO he was the most talented player on
the team. However his actual performance didn't really show it. I attribute this
to the fact that he was thrown into the fire because there were no other
options. IMO he's not a true PG, where he had to play while at Pitt. Also as a
frosh he simply wasn't ready to play so many minutes at this level. Is he an
ACC player? IMO, maybe as an off guard, and certainly not as a starter

Yea I dont gate the hate on Carr. It was clear as day that the kid was talented. He was a freshman playing out of position full time in the AC freaking C.

 

[DiehardPanther]

Carr is a pretty good combo guard who would be the first guard off the bench on a quality team. He might be a starter by his Jr or Sr year for that team.

 

[joeydavid]

I liked Carr and Parker. Wish they would have stuck around but neither could do anything like this. Steel is correct, adding the athletes that Capel added would have allowed both Carr and especially Parker to shine here.

Carr is a more than capable ACC guard. While he may not be an all-conference player, he had that potential. Put him at the 2, and I think he's a 14-15 PPG guy. As for defense, come on.

Carr vs XJ - I don't know yet but I do know that Carr was a good player

 

[joeydavid]

Here's the difference as I see it. Pitt was competing with Miami at the Pete until Carr got into foul trouble. Stallings had no other option once Carr was out and Pitt was done. There were a few games like that or Carr was simply not good.

Next season Capel will have 4 options that will all likely be better than Carr was as a Freshman. That alone should get them a handful of wins in the ACC.

Watching Carr, I could see the talent. IMO he was the most talented player on
the team. However his actual performance didn't really show it. I attribute this
to the fact that he was thrown into the fire because there were no other
options. IMO he's not a true PG, where he had to play while at Pitt. Also as a
frosh he simply wasn't ready to play so many minutes at this level. Is he an
ACC player? IMO, maybe as an off guard, and certainly not as a starter