It included no apology to the fans for what occurred out on the court tonight.
I would have thought that would be appropriate.
I would have thought that would be appropriate.
Watched the Capel post game
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What fans?? There could not have been 500 people there.
It was pretty bad. But, we had fun, picking on each other, like always.
Is he asleep or just looking down at no one? Does he coach free throw shooting and defense? And yes, where was the apology for this horrendous game? He's responsible for that.
You have always been very fair in dealing with me.
You have never heard a coach offer such an apology? You don’t think the fans are extremely down after experiencing this type of opening day loss?
The Citadel demolished us from the opening tip.
You think it is ridiculous to expect our coach to acknowledge that and accept some responsibility?
Just give it some thought.
I've seen that before. I'm not a big fan of it.
I definitely don't think that's the right approach to take with this team though. They are going to get beaten down enough this year as it is. He doesn't need to throw them under the bus or lose them.. I think he needs to build their confidence and stress competing harder and fighting to get better.
Just trying to keep it positive, getting maximum effort, and hopefully showing some improvement as the season progresses is about the most you can hope for this year, imo.
I definitely don't think that's the right approach to take with this team though. They are going to get beaten down enough this year as it is. He doesn't need to throw them under the bus or lose them.. I think he needs to build their confidence and stress competing harder and fighting to get better.
Just trying to keep it positive, getting maximum effort, and hopefully showing some improvement as the season progresses is about the most you can hope for this year, imo.
Florida State's Loss This Weekend Was So Disappointing That Coach Mike Norvell Released a Full Apology
College football fans couldn't believe it when the Jacksonville State Gamecocks upset the Florida State Seminoles in Saturday's game.
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Yes, I think it is ridiculous. Who is he going to apologize to, the 1000 that were there? Just not a big fan of it. You can see that he and the guys are trying. The effort was there, we just aren’t a good shooting team and that is the major problem. We got over 30 FT’sc which is great, but we made less than half of them and that is not going to change this year. We are a team that is constructed to play good defense, but we are not constructed to be a good shooting team.
Just not a fan of it.Florida State's Loss This Weekend Was So Disappointing That Coach Mike Norvell Released a Full Apology
College football fans couldn't believe it when the Jacksonville State Gamecocks upset the Florida State Seminoles in Saturday's game.
Norvell worked for toddy graham for a long time. I would expect him to be well versed in pandering.
I watched this again. There is not even a “token” taking ownership of this fiasco.
Capel treated this interview as any other post game interview.
it wasn’t and he shouldn’t have had. It was Florida State losing to Jacksonville State.
We got demolished from the tip against Citadel. It was embarrassing.
Show some embarrassment.
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I'm sorry that I'm going to go here ... but I really have to.
I don't recall you once ever asking for Stallings to give an apology, nor did ever come close to it. In fact, Capel comes closer it seems to me.
I don’t really want to go there, but I guess I have to. I would much rather limit the discussion to our “current” coach.
Which coach came closer to shouldering responsibility? Which coach had more excuses?
I know my answer. At least that is the way “it seems to me”. I would welcome other posters thoughts on that, if I was not determined to keep the focus on the issues with our current coach.
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I think the current coach comes closer. Not by much, but I saw none of it from Stallings.
They’re both disasters so at this point what’s the difference. But since you asked I think you hold Capel’s feet much closer to the fire than you did Stallings’.
And I didn’t watch the video. But I don’t need to see it to think that he doesn’t need to mass apologize either. He needs to get to work to get it corrected and get more talent. If he doesn’t he’ll be gone sooner than later.
You watch enough sports that I’m sure you realize the vast majority of these pressers are coach speak. Maybe it’s more annoying when your team is getting drummed and want answers. There are some exceptions but most aren’t gone give or reveal too much. For better or worse that’s just the way it is.
First, this is not about me. It makes no difference who I was easier or harder on.
Second, this was his first post game (and loss) after his building a mansion Twitter post. It also comes on the heels of mass defections and another arrest. Yet it treats it as just another post game? No mention on the future of the program?
I think we deserve a wee bit more.
Not even anywhere close to the same fire.
But like you said, at the point it's beginning not to matter.
I think this is a ridiculous request. As is expecting anything meaningful out of these post game press conferences. I feel the same way about people who constantly complain about Duzz “watching the tape.”
Some perfunctory apology won’t change the outcome of the game or suddenly turn around fan apathy. Nor will it improve how the team plays.
Do I really need to go back and find posts for you calling me out for subliminally trying to turn posters against Stallings?
The video stopped about 2/3 through but certainly the one thing that always comes across to me from Jeff’s pressers is that he is a bit of a hand off coach once they hit the floor. Many of the things he said simply pointed to guys needing to recognize X or Y during the play of the game. I will presumed that these things are discussed leading up to a game. In particular Jeff mentioned that even the Citadel coach called his one kid a specialist and Jeff said our kids need to know that. Once again I am presuming the coaches know that the kid is a specialist and has told the team that and then when the play of the game goes on they simply lose track of that.
I used to think one of our previous coaches was a mad man with how he yelled and screamed from the sideline in an almost nonstop manner. However, it makes me wonder if that was just his way of keeping his guys focused on critical aspects of the game at hand.
I used to think one of our previous coaches was a mad man with how he yelled and screamed from the sideline in an almost nonstop manner. However, it makes me wonder if that was just his way of keeping his guys focused on critical aspects of the game at hand.
Can’t agree with you here DT. You can bemoan s lot of things with Stallings but I always thought he was pretty genuine and open in his post-game interviews. I thought they were good because to me they had more than just coachspeak.
Maybe I felt that way because after each game I usually had strong opinions on why they lost, what they did good or bad, etc. Abd Stallings seemed to always emphasize the the same things that I had strong thoughts on.
Did you watch the video?
”I” need to work on our shot selection. “I” always question myself about what I could have done better.
Maybe “I” should have played Milligan more.
That what seems to you, seem any different?
Fair enough. I just don't ever remember a flat out apology to the fans that gary2 is requesting the Capel give after last night.
In the same post it’s not about you yet we (includes you) DESERVE more. Ok, got it.
I’m on Twitter but often times I realize how silly it is. I don’t see him getting there. Ever. But that was posted on 6/24. Given where we were if you even expected a solid foundation by yesterday I’d suggest you recalibrate. But I’ll repeat - I don’t see anything that makes me think he’s getting where he thinks he’s going to go either.
Never said that. I said you always had a subliminal messaging always related to Dixon.Bethlehem John agreed if I remember correctly.
I don’t know if you were trying to turn posters against Stallings. I certainly never made any claim approaching that.
Search history for any post of mine you like.
Again, did you view the video?
Yeah I don’t know about an apology, But I’m not one to look for that, more interested in hearing genuine and honest thoughts, not just coachspeak.
Or maybe another approach that I like, the short n sweet but brutally honest one-liners Tomlin always seems to have.
It is all in this thread. No need to search.
I thought I was polite and pretty deferential throughout the thread.
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No doubt. If I know nothing about the team -- I could give the exact same answers the Capel gives at press conferences. Truth is, most coaches do the same. Tomlin is an exception.
I don’t expect an apology but if I was making $4+ million a year to coach basketball and that’s the product I put out there… I’d be apologizing to everyone. Especially in college sports where these ridiculous salaries are paid for in part by boosters, students’ activities fees, etc.
I love the guy but to some degree he has been kind’ve smug and seemed to give somewhat of an “us against the world” type vibe to his team… I was on board for a while and just trusted that he had a clear plan given his CBB rxperience… but at this point it’s clear those were all just words. He’s lost and cares more about protecting his brother’s wallet than Pitt basketball.
I love the guy but to some degree he has been kind’ve smug and seemed to give somewhat of an “us against the world” type vibe to his team… I was on board for a while and just trusted that he had a clear plan given his CBB rxperience… but at this point it’s clear those were all just words. He’s lost and cares more about protecting his brother’s wallet than Pitt basketball.
I agree with this 100% and I do think he needed to apologize to the fans as Narduzzi has on several occasions. Yea, there weren't many there but many watched on TV and many still care about the program but are less engaged and I'm sure he understands that given how bad his teams have been.
I would have apologized and said the team is working hard and they're going to get a lot better, and they need our support because they're young, whatever. I was looking forward to his press conference but he had no answers. Just said they need to play better.
I did not make it about me. I made it about Stallings treatment.
That was a very unpopular opinion that led to certain members of the board making it “about me.”
I think Vader is currently experiencing some of that.
Oh so we’re back to you defending your boy and that whole agenda. That makes more sense then.
As far as Vader. It’s one thing to be optimistic. And his posts do contain facts and good summaries so credit where it’s due. But some of his content is akin to pissing on someone’s leg and telling them it’s raining. But to each their own.
You’re obsession with this is weird to say the least. And despite many many attempts (subliminally or otherwise) you’re having no impact.
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