We are getting close to things starting! Expectations on ACC record?

[H2P 2003]

It won’t take much to make me happy this year. I bought a full season plan because of how excited I am about Capel, and how happy I was pitt fires stallings.

With that said, I think we still are likely to finish last in the ACC. I’d honestly look at a 3 or 4 win season as a fairly large success after the coaching change and what happened last year.

Who knows if Capel will turn things around, but it is nice to have a guy going forward that gives you hope of future success and not someone that you know has no chance.

 

[JD1976]

It won’t take much to make me happy this year. I bought a full season plan because of how excited I am about Capel, and how happy I was pitt fires stallings.

With that said, I think we still are likely to finish last in the ACC. I’d honestly look at a 3 or 4 win season as a fairly large success after the coaching change and what happened last year.

Who knows if Capel will turn things around, but it is nice to have a guy going forward that gives you hope of future success and not someone that you know has no chance.

I would be...
Not surprised with 1 or 2 wins
Pleasantly surprised with 3-4 wins
Thrilled with 5 wins
Shocked with 6 wins
Ready to declare Capel a coaching wizard with 7 wins

In all seriousness, regardless of W/L record, I would just like to see them more competitive and have a chance to win with under 5:00 in at least half of the games. Certainly, against UNC, Duke and the rest of the upper echelon of the conference, there is little chance at victory.

From a more general level, if the arrow remains pointed up at the end of the year in terms of the development of the young players and in recruiting I will be more than happy.

 

[DC_Area_Panther]

I would be...
Not surprised with 1 or 2 wins
Pleasantly surprised with 3-4 wins
Thrilled with 5 wins
Shocked with 6 wins
Ready to declare Capel a coaching wizard with 7 wins

In all seriousness, regardless of W/L record, I would just like to see them more competitive and have a chance to win with under 5:00 in at least half of the games. Certainly, against UNC, Duke and the rest of the upper echelon of the conference, there is little chance at victory.

From a more general level, if the arrow remains pointed up at the end of the year in terms of the development of the young players and in recruiting I will be more than happy.

Enjoy the OOC. Fairly easy and Pitt could go 12-2. Very difficult to win more than 2-3 ACC, however. We should at least see over 10 wins overall this season.

 

[PittCity]

15 wins.

 

[DC_Area_Panther]

Enjoy the OOC. Fairly easy and Pitt could go 12-2. Very difficult to win more than 2-3 ACC, however. We should at least see over 10 wins overall this season.

I was counting the Nov 1st Pitt-Johnstown game as one of the 12 OOC wins. But maybe it is an exhibition game that doesn't count? Official site doesn't list it as an exhibition but Trib Article claims Youngstown on Nov. 6 is the first game.

 

[joeydavid]

That's my optimistic look at this 15 wins with a top 25ish class.

15 wins.

 

[pittizit]

14 wins

 

[ameoba defense]

Our schedule is tough for a team in our position because we play all the scrubs on the road. This would be a great schedule for a bubble team because we'd beat the scrubs on the road, and then beat the middling teams at home. With us not being that good, all of those are going to be tough to win. Three wins would make me very happy.

 

[Bethlehemjohn]

It won’t take much to make me happy this year. I bought a full season plan because of how excited I am about Capel, and how happy I was pitt fires stallings.

With that said, I think we still are likely to finish last in the ACC. I’d honestly look at a 3 or 4 win season as a fairly large success after the coaching change and what happened last year.

Who knows if Capel will turn things around, but it is nice to have a guy going forward that gives you hope of future success and not someone that you know has no chance.

I'm going to say 6-12. I think this team will be much better than last year's team and maybe even make a post-season tourney. We should be better at every position than we were last year and the depth will be better too.

 

[PittCity]

Making predictions now is kinda absurd anyways , we really have no idea how much better the players from last year got, how good the new frosh are, how Ellison and NDir will be, and how well Capel will do in bringing this all together.

 

[HailToPitt1985]

I just want them to be more competitive in games and when we lose, not lose by 30 points as we did with Stallings. If we can somehow get to 4 ACC wins, that's about the top end I see for Pitt this year. A lot of work to do and we haven't played one game yet.

 

[DC_Area_Panther]

The first indicator will be the OOC, of course. Less than double digit wins would be a bad sign and would indicate little or no improvement over last season. I do not expect this to happen.

Given the overall weakness of the OOC schedule, going 10-3 (11-3 if counting Pitt-Johnstown) would suggest, IMHO, 2-4 ACC wins.

Winning 11 OOC would suggest winning 4-5 ACC wins, IMHO.

It would take 0-1 OOC losses (with no double digit loss) to suggest to me the possibility of approaching a 0.500 ACC record.

This teams overall lack of a strong rebounder and rim defender would appear to remain a serious obstacle to success (particularly on the defensive end) in ACC play. The key issue will be whether we can compensate enough with pressure and create enough turnovers to offset our rebounding disadvantage. Will our guards and wings be able to do so?

The positive in that regard is that we have a lot of depth at both Guard and Wing to be able to pressure full time without getting our players "gassed." Based on the post 1st practice interviews it appears this will be the plan.

We have sufficient depth and decent quality of depth at guard and wing to easily use 8-9 players at the 1-2-3 and 4 spots to provide adequate rest for pressuring full time.

Can play at 1 or 2: (1) Johnson, (2) McGowens, (3) N'Dir, Aiken (Red Shirt?)

Can play at 2 or 3: (4) Ellison, (5) Davis, (6) Frame

Can play at 2, 3 or 4: Ellison, (7) Toney, Frame, (8) Stevenson

Can play at 3 or 4: (9) George, Ellison, Toney, Stevenson, Frame

It will be interesting to see what happens.

 

[PittAU]

I just want them to be more competitive in games and when we lose, not lose by 30 points as we did with Stallings. If we can somehow get to 4 ACC wins, that's about the top end I see for Pitt this year. A lot of work to do and we haven't played one game yet.

That's pretty much where I am.

I want them to play hard for each other, fight for loose balls. Go for rebounds, take the charge. Play like a team.

That's what we didn't see the last few seasons.

I'd like to see them win a lot of games. But this year I don't care about that.

 

[H2P 4 EVER 17]

I was counting the Nov 1st Pitt-Johnstown game as one of the 12 OOC wins. But maybe it is an exhibition game that doesn't count? Official site doesn't list it as an exhibition but Trib Article claims Youngstown on Nov. 6 is the first game.

Pitt-Johnstown is division 2 and does not count toward the OOC games and really doesn't count at all. Basically just a scrimmage and is an exhibition game.

 

[SoufOaklin4Life]

Between 2-4 acc wins

 

[pitt-girl]

I agree with most here that i just want to see a sustained commitment to winning and improvement over the season. This isn't just about the players - I also want to see some good in game coaching. No wtf decisions like no timeouts, etc.

 

[Ski11585]

I would urge Pitt fans to not repeat the same preseason mistakes with hoops that they did with the football team.

 

[PittCity]

I would urge Pitt fans to not repeat the same preseason mistakes with hoops that they did with the football team.

gee , thanks.
Pitt athletics top notch.

 

[steel_curtain]

I would be...
Not surprised with 1 or 2 wins
Pleasantly surprised with 3-4 wins
Thrilled with 5 wins
Shocked with 6 wins
Ready to declare Capel a coaching wizard with 7 wins

In all seriousness, regardless of W/L record, I would just like to see them more competitive and have a chance to win with under 5:00 in at least half of the games. Certainly, against UNC, Duke and the rest of the upper echelon of the conference, there is little chance at victory.

From a more general level, if the arrow remains pointed up at the end of the year in terms of the development of the young players and in recruiting I will be more than happy.

-We essentially did what you wanted last year with Stallings, a bunch of freshmen, and 2 of the worst guards in ACC history with Milligan and Boykins. I actually rewatched a lot of the shortened games (about 8 min. per on acc network). Everytime Milligan came into the game, and / or we switched to 2-3 zone, or we got pressed, we got throttled by every single team and were blown out in the 2nd half. Parker Stewart was also the worst defender in maybe the last 20 years for a starter. Carr and Chukwuka weren't far behind Stewart last year, they also were terrible on defense. These players are slow / unathletic. And we attempted almost 50% of our total shots from 3 which is midmajor status. Stallings was a total failure, at literally, everything.

vs Notre Dame- 2 point game, 1 minute left
vs- Wake Forest- 2 point game, 1 minute left
vs Florida State- 3 point game, 3 minutes left
vs Syracuse- 5 point game, 3 minutes left
vs NC State- 2 point game, 2 minutes left
vs Virginia Tech- 5 point game, 3 minutes left

-We actually had leads on roughly 7 ACC teams in the second half of games last year.

-I would also note, as many players said already, the team quit in a lot of games

-I would also note our strength and conditioning under Stallings was a complete and utter joke. Our players, especially our big men, were dead in the 2nd half and guys were gasping for air

-I would lastly note Sidy Ndir was a starter on a team that made 2 NCAA Tournaments in a row and won 54 games. He most likely is coming off our bench. That goes to show where are guards were at last year under Stallings and where are guards are at now, night and day differences.

 

[Ski11585]

gee , thanks.
Pitt athletics top notch.

Your response is dumb.

Football fans got wildly unrealistic expectations about the football team based on no real information and now they are throwing hissy fits.

Pitt hoops won no ACC games last year. Even with a new coach and an infusion of talent, it'll take some time to recover. Pitt fans need to be realistic about what that means.

 

[PittCity]

Your response is dumb.

Football fans got wildly unrealistic expectations about the football team based on no real information and now they are throwing hissy fits.

Pitt hoops won no ACC games last year. Even with a new coach and an infusion of talent, it'll take some time to recover. Pitt fans need to be realistic about what that means.

its dumb ? I was just merely thanking you for your enthusiasm.

 

[Seneca_Valley]

It won’t take much to make me happy this year. I bought a full season plan because of how excited I am about Capel, and how happy I was pitt fires stallings.

With that said, I think we still are likely to finish last in the ACC. I’d honestly look at a 3 or 4 win season as a fairly large success after the coaching change and what happened last year.

Who knows if Capel will turn things around, but it is nice to have a guy going forward that gives you hope of future success and not someone that you know has no chance.

Sadly, more of the same. 3-4 losses OOC and maybe a couple wins in conference. Same prediction I made last year for the same reasons. I was obviously wrong about the conference piece so it would not surprise me that we go winless again. It's gonna be tough to watch.

 

[pitt-girl]

Sadly, more of the same. 3-4 losses OOC and maybe a couple wins in conference. Same prediction I made last year for the same reasons. I was obviously wrong about the conference piece so it would not surprise me that we go winless again. It's gonna be tough to watch.

You think? I'm expecting it to be much more enjoyable regardless of the score.

 

[H2P 2003]

You think? I'm expecting it to be much more enjoyable regardless of the score.

Coaching matters, especially in college basketball. While one coach may go 20-12 and bubble into the tourney with a team, the next coach may go 15-16 with nearly the exact same team, and go 4-14 in conference play.

Capel gets 3 years for me regardless. I hope to see steady improvement, and while i don’t even really expect them to make the tournament in year 3, I expect them to be near the bubble to retain him...something like 7-11 or 8-10.

We will see what type of coach he is. Like I said, I’d be absolutely thrilled with 4 or more ACC wins. It would pretty much exceed my expectations. I just know it’s nice having a guy I can look at and say he has upside and a future, as opposed to a guy that I know is a lost cause.

 

[steel_curtain]

You think? I'm expecting it to be much more enjoyable regardless of the score.

Ill answer the question

1) No one, I mean no one, knows how good or bad we are yet. Carr, Stewart, Boykins, Milligan, all the guards from last year except Davis are gone. And I say Thank goodness for that as the the latter 2 weren't good enough to even play division 1 basketball. We had guards last year shooting under 20% in the ACC coming off our bench. That's how bad these players were.

2) The team captain is Malik Ellison. Ellison hasnt played in 2 years. No one knows how good Ellison is or isnt. If Ellison is the captain over Frame, odds are good he is at least as good as Frame. If Ndir is coming off the bench, things are looking better. From the videos and interviews Ive seen, the leadership role from Ellison and Frame is far better then anything Ive seen from last year or with clown teams led by Artis and Young and the players hanging out at the Casino instead of playing basketball

3) Our top scorer last year could barely touch the rim. Im talking about Frame who was way over weight with poor conditioning like the rest of our untrained with zero stamina players under Stallings. We had the most unathletic backcourt in P5 history. Carr, Stewart, Frame, Boykins, Milligan, these guys could barely touch the rim. With Frame taking 25+ lbs off his body, he should easily be able to dunk now.
4) The team is ripped and conditioned. This photo proves it. The team under Kevin Stallings used to take 10 minute breaks without sprints in practice. Not this team. We trained this offseason and didnt fluck around like Stallings did. Everything was cranked up substantially in the offseason and the team worked its ass off. We arent going to die gasping for air in the 2nd half any more.

5) The freshmen. 2 Months ago people liked the freshmen class. Now Johnson appears to be our starting point guard and the amount of people that predicted that 2 months ago? Zero.. Whats that saying that Ndir is coming off the bench or Mcgowens coming off the bench? How good are the freshmen? We know 1 thing. Our trio of freshmen are as athletic as anyone in the entire country. 40 inch vertical and two 35+ inch verticals, these guys are athletic freaks


6) We scrapped the 2-3 zone under Stallings. The 2-3 zone last year was a complete disaster.

7) I believe the players when they say they are pissed off about last year and what happened. Im not ready to make any acc predictions. But I know we are going to be far, far, more competitive this year then last year. I also dont think this team of players will quit and lay down either like the last 2 years under Stallings. Im also comfortable in saying this team will win acc games. The whole mentality and attitude of this basketball team has done a complete 180 uturn the day Stallings was fired. This team has some balls to it. How that translates to the season will be determined. But if the whole team goes from untrained poorly conditioned marshmallows under Stallings to trained athletes under Capel, things are going to be a lot different this year.

 

[TFloss]

Ill answer the question

1) No one, I mean no one, knows how good or bad we are yet. Carr, Stewart, Boykins, Milligan, all the guards from last year except Davis are gone. And I say Thank goodness for that as the the latter 2 weren't good enough to even play division 1 basketball. We had guards last year shooting under 20% in the ACC coming off our bench. That's how bad these players were.

2) The team captain is Malik Ellison. Ellison hasnt played in 2 years. No one knows how good Ellison is or isnt. If Ellison is the captain over Frame, odds are good he is at least as good as Frame. If Ndir is coming off the bench, things are looking better. From the videos and interviews Ive seen, the leadership role from Ellison and Frame is far better then anything Ive seen from last year or with clown teams led by Artis and Young and the players hanging out at the Casino instead of playing basketball

3) Our top scorer last year could barely touch the rim. Im talking about Frame who was way over weight with poor conditioning like the rest of our untrained with zero stamina players under Stallings. We had the most unathletic backcourt in P5 history. Carr, Stewart, Frame, Boykins, Milligan, these guys could barely touch the rim. With Frame taking 25+ lbs off his body, he should easily be able to dunk now.
4) The team is ripped and conditioned. This photo proves it. The team under Kevin Stallings used to take 10 minute breaks without sprints in practice. Not this team. We trained this offseason and didnt fluck around like Stallings did. Everything was cranked up substantially in the offseason and the team worked its ass off. We arent going to die gasping for air in the 2nd half any more.

5) The freshmen. 2 Months ago people liked the freshmen class. Now Johnson appears to be our starting point guard and the amount of people that predicted that 2 months ago? Zero.. Whats that saying that Ndir is coming off the bench or Mcgowens coming off the bench? How good are the freshmen? We know 1 thing. Our trio of freshmen are as athletic as anyone in the entire country. 40 inch vertical and two 35+ inch verticals, these guys are athletic freaks


6) We scrapped the 2-3 zone under Stallings. The 2-3 zone last year was a complete disaster.

7) I believe the players when they say they are pissed off about last year and what happened. Im not ready to make any acc predictions. But I know we are going to be far, far, more competitive this year then last year. I also dont think this team of players will quit and lay down either like the last 2 years under Stallings. Im also comfortable in saying this team will win acc games. The whole mentality and attitude of this basketball team has done a complete 180 uturn the day Stallings was fired. This team has some balls to it. How that translates to the season will be determined. But if the whole team goes from untrained poorly conditioned marshmallows under Stallings to trained athletes under Capel, things are going to be a lot different this year.

I love your enthusiasm, but it's really hard to imagine them winning more than 16 games with the lack of a frontcourt. That's probably as far as I can go. It would be DOUBLE last year. I would be ecstatic with that.

My prediction is probably 13 or 14 wins with 3-4 in the ACC.

 

[DC_Area_Panther]

@Seneca Valley--I think that you are being a tad too pessimistic. Point Guard play will be significantly better and the players are in much better physical condition per their own admission. So, providing Capel is even a slightly better in game coach, we should not lose more than 3 OOC and should win 2-4 ACC for 12 wins at a bare minimum with as many as 15 wins possible.

A single digit overall number of wins (8) with 0 ACC wins appears improbable, IMHO.

 

[Seneca_Valley]

You think? I'm expecting it to be much more enjoyable regardless of the score.

I hope you are right. But if you look at the schedule we are going to be really deep into it before we get a that first win. If we do at all.

Tell me if you feel that way at the end of January.

 

[steel_curtain]

I hope you are right. But if you look at the schedule we are going to be really deep into it before we get a that first win. If we do at all.

Tell me if you feel that way at the end of January.

-In the first 5 games of the season, I think we have the ability to pick off any 4 of the first 5 teams, not including North Carolina

-We gave Syracuse problems twice last year until we eventually died in the second half

-We were beating NC State for the entire game last year until we collapsed in the final minutes of the game

-Louisville has zero recruits coming in and lost multiple players to the NBA

-Pitt was beating Florida State last year and it was a 3 point game with 3 minutes left


-Im not scared of any of these teams. It was routine for Kevin Stallings to crash and burn in the 2nd half. I blame poor conditioning followed by lack of guard talent the most.

-So we can agree to disagree.

 

[sonofabit]

I want to see Huggins-like intensity/tempo with athletes. Sacrilege for sure. But a style of play will lend itself to better recruiting than we already have. Pressure and intensity should be the cornerstone of this new regime.

 

[Seneca_Valley]

-In the first 5 games of the season, I think we have the ability to pick off any 4 of the first 5 teams, not including North Carolina

-We gave Syracuse problems twice last year until we eventually died in the second half

-We were beating NC State for the entire game last year until we collapsed in the final minutes of the game

-Louisville has zero recruits coming in and lost multiple players to the NBA

-Pitt was beating Florida State last year and it was a 3 point game with 3 minutes left


-Im not scared of any of these teams. It was routine for Kevin Stallings to crash and burn in the 2nd half. I blame poor conditioning followed by lack of guard talent the most.

-So we can agree to disagree.

All I can say is WOW! Yes, we can agree to disagree.

 

[DiehardPanther]

I want to see Huggins-like intensity/tempo with athletes. Sacrilege for sure. But a style of play will lend itself to better recruiting than we already have. Pressure and intensity should be the cornerstone of this new regime.

Agreed - I would love to see us play like them or how VCU used to play under Smart.

 

[singregardless]

Is no one going to mention that the S&C coach is a holdover from the last regime? From slamming the guy in 1 paragraph to praising the player's conditioning in the next.


It's always black and white for you - never any nuance.

 

[hoopsguy72]

-We essentially did what you wanted last year with Stallings, a bunch of freshmen, and 2 of the worst guards in ACC history with Milligan and Boykins. I actually rewatched a lot of the shortened games (about 8 min. per on acc network). Everytime Milligan came into the game, and / or we switched to 2-3 zone, or we got pressed, we got throttled by every single team and were blown out in the 2nd half. Parker Stewart was also the worst defender in maybe the last 20 years for a starter. Carr and Chukwuka weren't far behind Stewart last year, they also were terrible on defense. These players are slow / unathletic. And we attempted almost 50% of our total shots from 3 which is midmajor status. Stallings was a total failure, at literally, everything.

vs Notre Dame- 2 point game, 1 minute left
vs- Wake Forest- 2 point game, 1 minute left
vs Florida State- 3 point game, 3 minutes left
vs Syracuse- 5 point game, 3 minutes left
vs NC State- 2 point game, 2 minutes left
vs Virginia Tech- 5 point game, 3 minutes left

-We actually had leads on roughly 7 ACC teams in the second half of games last year.

-I would also note, as many players said already, the team quit in a lot of games

-I would also note our strength and conditioning under Stallings was a complete and utter joke. Our players, especially our big men, were dead in the 2nd half and guys were gasping for air

-I would lastly note Sidy Ndir was a starter on a team that made 2 NCAA Tournaments in a row and won 54 games. He most likely is coming off our bench. That goes to show where are guards were at last year under Stallings and where are guards are at now, night and day differences.

I'm not sure where this idea of Sidy N'dir coming off the bench is coming from. It's not coming from within the program, I can tell you that. IF, and it's a big if, Sidy comes off the bench, that will be nothing more than a strategic decision. N'dir is one of the best three players in our program. He, Ellison, and Davis are our best two-way players. He, X, and Ellison are our most athletic players. He, McGowens, and Chukwuka are our best 3-point shooters. I don't know if Capel even knows who will start at PG yet. It may be X, it may be Sidy. But I can assure you this: It will be stunning if Sidy isn't on the floor with games on the line. The kid can flat out play.

I'm very optimistic about X and McGowens based on everything I've heard from people within the program thus far. The long-term prospects are bright. But they're not better players than N'dir now, and they won't be in March, either.

 

[steel_curtain]

I'm not sure where this idea of Sidy N'dir coming off the bench is coming from. It's not coming from within the program, I can tell you that. IF, and it's a big if, Sidy comes off the bench, that will be nothing more than a strategic decision. N'dir is one of the best three players in our program. He, Ellison, and Davis are our best two-way players. He, X, and Ellison are our most athletic players. He, McGowens, and Chukwuka are our best 3-point shooters. I don't know if Capel even knows who will start at PG yet. It may be X, it may be Sidy. But I can assure you this: It will be stunning if Sidy isn't on the floor with games on the line. The kid can flat out play.

I'm very optimistic about X and McGowens based on everything I've heard from people within the program thus far. The long-term prospects are bright. But they're not better players than N'dir now, and they won't be in March, either.

-From within the program, Johnson was the point in the first practice on the first squad as was Davis on the first squad, Ndir on the second squad. From the team captain Ellison, it is highly likely Johnson starts at point. So far to date, everything Ellison has said has been true with zero Coach speak or guesswork. He said Davis and Chuk were probably the 2 most improved players, that could be the case too.

-Agree on the best 2 way players. Davis was by far the best defensive player on our team last year. Ellison and Ndir always checked the best scoring option on the opposing team from point to wing on defense from their prior teams. I agree here. Ill also throw in Johnson will be good on defense from the start. He is a WCAC player, those players are groomed to play defense just like CHSAA players in NY and PSL in PA.

-Stevenson and Mcgowens have 40 inch give or take verticals. These 2 are big time athletes.

-Ellison was a 34% shooter at St. John's. Hes also one of our better shooters from 3. Chuk has to prove something. Being the next Cam Wright or Levon Kendall do everything in practice but little in games does not count. Mcgowens has a decent 3 point shot too, I agree.

-Agree Ndir plays a good bit. I see him and Davis at the 2 and Ndir some time at the 1 as a backup most likely.

-Lastly, Johnson and James Robinson both came from the WCAC. Robinson started as a freshmen at Pitt. Johnson's senior year statistically blew away Robinson in high school. Johnson's upside is far greater then Robinson because he is without question the fastest player on the entire roster with the ball and in transition and with dribble penetration. He is also super athletic which we both agree with. That's the difference between he and Robinson, speed and athleticism.

 

[steel_curtain]

Is no one going to mention that the S&C coach is a holdover from the last regime? From slamming the guy in 1 paragraph to praising the player's conditioning in the next.


It's always black and white for you - never any nuance.

-Capel dictates and everyone follows. Capel told Peace he wasnt even allowed to train with the team because he was to fat and out of shape. Peace got the message real quick as did the rest of our team to get it in gear because the fun and games are over

 

[DC_Area_Panther]

N'Dir is recovering from some nagging injuries per the post 1st practice interviews.

So anonting anyone else at starting point is premature.

As far as conditioning is concerned, several players have lost considerable weight in order to be quicker and better conditioned. That is a fact. It is not a function of the trainer's style.

It also appears that Capel has every intention of playing fast all the time. This means using lots of depth to prevent players being gassed in the 2nd half. There wont be a Dixon or Stallings style 7-8 man rotation it will be 9-10 guys seeing significant PT, IMHO.

I would not be surprised to see 4-5 players subbing in platoons to always have fresh legs on the court and wear down opponents with constant pressure.

 

[VincePITT]

31 regular season games 13 to 14 wins for the season!

 

[Atch]

I just want them to be more competitive in games and when we lose, not lose by 30 points as we did with Stallings. If we can somehow get to 4 ACC wins, that's about the top end I see for Pitt this year. A lot of work to do and we haven't played one game yet.

In many games under Stallings, 30 points was a close game, and when we scored 20 at the half that was a lot.

 

[DC_Area_Panther]

I would urge Pitt fans to not repeat the same preseason mistakes with hoops that they did with the football team.

Agree,

Anyone who expects more than a 12-15 total win season with a few ACC wins in that mix is setting themselves up for disappointment. On the other hand, anyone who expects a repeat of last seasons 8 wins and 0-19 (0r worse) is not being realistic, IMHO.