How can you say that ? What's your evidence? The kid's only played a few series.
We the People want DiNucci!
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Doesn't isn't seem obvious given the coaching staff's desire to bring a fifth year senior backup quarterback from the other side of the country, and then name him the starter with only 6 months of experience in the offense? To me, that is not an endorsement of Browne, but a rejection by the coaching staff of the other quarterbacks on the roster. Pitt hasn't had a good qb it developed all on its own since Tyler Palko. The ceiling right now for Pitt qb development is one career nfl start in over 20 plus years. Gonna take a miracle to entice the real talent to come to Pitt. Anyway, actions speak louder than words. Dinucci stinks, Browne is the best Pitt has. Learn to love it.
I personally put stock in what DiNucci did in high school ... biggest winner and best player at the highest level ... and the pluck he showed in the emergency situation in the bowl game (his teammates let him down, not his play). He reminds somewhat of Palko in these senses.
Still, I acknowledge the reasons for doubt, and DiNucci doesn't have to be the replacement, but as a 5th year senior with no future upside, Browne can't be on a long leash. OSU game or the GT game at the very most. If Browne goes 0-3 to start (with YSU essentially a loss as well, as far as perception, as this board certainly proves today) and looks truly hopeless doing it, it would be prudent to go with a new guy for Rice (a game where a new guy would have a fighting chance to get his legs, one would hope). Maybe Pickett, who appears the glamour guy (if anyone can truly earn that moniker among this crew).
That said, I think Browne needs more of a chance, with a real game plan, and teammates (and coaches) who are taking things more seriously than they obviously were against the 1AA opponent yesterday.
Still, there would be ZERO justification to let the team flounder for half the season or longer with a guy who is gone after Thanksgiving no matter what. That was similar to Chryst using Tino like he did his final season. A total waste of everyone's time, especially the paying custiomers'.
Unless DiNucci suddenly grew a strong arm... not sure why any rational people will want to see him in the game.
Those who think Narduzzi or any PITT coach did a great job should go back a watch the reply of the game.
There are only two possible reasons for that terrible embrassing performance which Mrs Buffett and I watched in person in a misty drizzle which started right in time to make the last FG more difficult.
1. The team is terrible
2. The coaches didn't have the team ready to play
I think they should all be under the microsope especially Conklin D coordinator, the O line coach missing 3 tries from three yards, the O coordinator ( its was terrible even for a "vanilla" gameplan).
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Narduzzi did a great job... why would you say different? Cause Browne fumbled? we were up 21-0 then pulled the air out of the ball. Kudos to YSU for coming back
Well not necessarily . DiNucci is only a RS sophomore who all things considered may need a little longer to develop. Browns has 4 years experience on him... you're making a bunch of unsubstantiated assumptions.
The team wasn't ready to play four full qtrs. of football.
Did you watch the second half?
Mrs Buffett and I were there.
It was a perfect example of a team that wasn't prepared, ready, or charged up to play a quality full game of football!
And that's on the HC who at this time is Narduzzi!
Fyi - it was a lot more than one Browne fumble. It was more like a complete offensive shutdown and a defensive collapse for most of the second half.
In a situation like that its the job of the HC to get things back on track?
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Did you watch that game? DiNucci looked like he was still in high school.
I saw a guy show poise against a fairly aggressive D that had knocked out our starting QB and TB, move the ball semi effectively, and put a TD pass right on the hands of an NFL prospect, who gagged on it. There was limited sample size for sure but I've seen far far far worse QB play at Pitt ... by 3 year starters.
Whether he could replicate that, say against a team that's likely no better than the 100th best FBS team (being generous) like yesterday, I have no idea, but wouldn't dismiss the possibility. Proven winners typically compete very well.
I certainly wouldn't be thrilled that this guy is our 2nd best option in our HC's third season at the helm but that's another subject.
Brady didn't do shit in college but go 20-5 and keep an all-world, 5 star, national HS POY on the bench for 2 years with the entire Wolverine nation calling for Carr to play the phenom, Drew Henson.
Wish we had a QB like that who didn't do $hit in college.
And for the record, I dislike Brady, Michigan, and the Pats-but I respect them.
Really? All I remembered was him being called for to be benched and going in the 6th round of the draft.
Guess I am getting old and didn't remember everything.
At least I am old enough to remember the 76 Championship
Careful man, even admitting technical respect for a Patriot is akin to being labeled a "nitter" for realistic criticism of Pitt leadership. I dunno what the Patriot expletive version of "nitter" is but you may soon receive it. Brace yourself!
Those calls for him to be benched were because the top HS recruit in the country was right behind Brady on the depth chart. Pitt doesn't have the only shortsighted fan base that always thinks the backup QB is better than the starter. The pressure was so great on Carr that he tried to platoon Brady and Henson briefly but Brady moved the offense down the field, Henson not as well. So Carr shrugged off the intense fan/media pressure, stuck to his guns and the rest is history.
Again, if the staff were sold on DiNucci, why waste a roster spot on Browne? Think you people are trying too hard to make a controversy. Why is it so hard to admit Pitt stinks at evaluating, recruiting and developing quarterbacks? I don't see the benefit of living in denial of Pitt's shortcomings.
Yes, I did see the game, and if that is your take, then I have no idea what to tell you. It is/was PAINFULLY OBVIOUS to any football fan that we intentionally ran extremely vanilla in the second half. The team looked very fired up, both halves honestly. Obviously, hard to look fired up when you are not throwing to wr and running the ball most every play, and staying off blitz packages.
Yes, the head coach is responsible for that, just like last year against Vanillanova, and that strategy worked the next week as we blew out Penn state and was completely fired up the fout of the gates, beating a team that might have been better than us... as we did AT CLEMSON.
If we can win AT CLEMSON, I think we can win with an inferior team at state penn.
The last thing we need is a qb controversy. lets hope Browne makes this speculation irrelevant. I do not want to see browne upended by DiNucci it will lead to many losses imho.
But if it leads to a better seasoned QB in 2018 it is better worth it than a struggling barely getting by Browne at the end of 2017 giving us maybe one more win this year.
The biggest problem is people equating "good" to the Heisman Trophy guys. Nate was a guy who you should be happy to have and could win a lot with if the rest of the team was talented. You would probably rank him somewhere 10-20 in the country in college last year. That is a good QB, even if he wasn't setting the record books or highlight shows on fire every week. I'd pass on the chance for a Heisman Trophy level QB for the rest of Pitt's program existence if you told me I could have Nate Peterman every year.
With all that said, Max Browne is likely to be somewhere in that 30-50 range, maybe a little lower, but things could be a lot worse. The problem is: we don't have all the talent around him to make things look better. We don't have a great WR corps and we have a group of pretty pedestrian backs, who should be backups on most good teams. Maybe the FR will step up and improve that because that would make a big difference for Browne, or whoever is at QB.
Jesus. "Narduzzi did a great job" when we beat YSU 28-21 in OT? I mean be a homer, but that takes the cake.
Nate deserved a great deal of credit for running a very complex system extremely well last year. Good fakes, remarkably few mishandled hand offs, pitches, shuffle passes, etc. Good scrambles when he needed to. Solid passing with less than great receivers.
He had 16 yards passing on 3 drives and 9 attempts. This was a defense who had given up 250+ yards to Peterman on 13 completions.
He threw one really nice pass, which was dropped, in 9 attempts. His completions were thrown 6 yards down field, 1 yard down field, and 3 yards down field. He had the one nice scramble out of pressure, too. He didn't have another solid throw in that game.
I don't understand how so many people think DiNucci came in and played so well in that game. It is like they count that 18 yard pass drop by Orndoff the same as 95 yards and 2 TDs and forget the 2 interceptions and misfires. I mean, that last interception he threw was TERRIBLE. He showed no arm strength and threw it way behind his WR on a roll out. It was as bad of an interception as a QB can throw. The first interception (after the Orndoff drop, which would have tied the game) was almost as bad. He floated the ball, into double coverage, about 3 yards short and behind the WR, who had absolutely no chance to catch the ball.
Will some of you, please, rewatch this game? Did you watch it the first time?
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