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Weah

If he can catch this offense could be our best in years! I really think he is the wild card assuming everyone else is healthy!

Thoughts?

I think he could be a 20 catch guy this year but I certainly think that its far more likely someone else steps forward as a consistent playmaker/catcher of the football. I LOVE Weah's upside but he has to prove it before I can get excited.
 
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I wonder if any other D1 school has a blazing speedster at WR that will light it up "if he can catch..."
 
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If he can catch this offense could be our best in years! I really think he is the wild card assuming everyone else is healthy!

Thoughts?

-My expectations for Weah are next to zero. He couldnt catch in high school, and 3 years at Pitt has proved nothing. At some point you have to catch the ball and show something. If he's our #2 WR, that is bad unless he miraculously has found new stick'm to catch the ball.
 

-38 receptions for 8 TD's. Exactly my point. Find me a player that dominates. This guy is and has been all hype, ala Penn State material. He's all fluff. This is the problem with Penn State recruiting. They see a player that is a 4 star, offered by no one, put up zero stats and proves he cant dominate, then celebrates as future big ten champion, only to fail.
 
-38 receptions for 8 TD's. Exactly my point. Find me a player that dominates. This guy is and has been all hype, ala Penn State material. He's all fluff. This is the problem with Penn State recruiting. They see a player that is a 4 star, offered by no one, put up zero stats and proves he cant dominate, then celebrates as future big ten champion, only to fail.

-This is also why when you watch a player, you look for 1 player to take the entire game over. Paris Ford is that player. Jordan Whitehead is that player. James Conner was close to being that player before last year. Penn State has fluff. Their 2 biggest recruiting misses were Whitehead followed by Ford, since Ford isnt in college yet.

-They hyped to death Hackenberg, since he was an overrated 5 star Top 10 National recruit, only to downplay him to their new QB that no one wanted (which a QB hasnt even been announced as a starter) to seem to think they are going to score 40+ per game because of some new spread no huddle offense from an OC that came from Fordham that scored 6 points against Villanova last year. Penn State has the biggest clown base of fans on the entire planet.
 
-38 receptions for 8 TD's. Exactly my point. Find me a player that dominates. This guy is and has been all hype, ala Penn State material. He's all fluff. This is the problem with Penn State recruiting. They see a player that is a 4 star, offered by no one, put up zero stats and proves he cant dominate, then celebrates as future big ten champion, only to fail.
I guess that you need to be reminded that when Jester Weah verballed to Pitt, there weren't too many 5-star WR's begging for a Pitt offer.

Teams that are in the position that Pitt was a few years ago (i.e. "desperate") have to take the chance that an athletically gifted kid such as Jester Weah will pan-out on a football field.

And he still might.
 
I guess that you need to be reminded that when Jester Weah verballed to Pitt, there weren't too many 5-star WR's begging for a Pitt offer.

Teams that are in the position that Pitt was a few years ago (i.e. "desperate") have to take the chance that an athletically gifted kid such as Jester Weah will pan-out on a football field.

And he still might.


-I dont hope in the world, I expect at the right moment. Jester being a gamechanger or giving us anything is hoping. A player with 4.3 speed that proves he can score as a true freshmen, you start to expect increased play and better results. If Jester has a good season, great, but I doubt he has it mentally to produce it. If he does, then great, do it.
 
Steel, I agree with your assessment of Weah, but your incessant hijacking of non PSU posts into a rant against their recruiting, their talent level, etc. is way over the top.
Like most of us on here, I can't stand the Nits either....but their recruits are a lot more than, as you put it, "fluff." Many of them are national level recruits who we would kill to have. Now if you want
to criticize their program, Franklin's coaching ability, or the other nonsense about them, I would
agree. PSU players and their talent levels are a different story, "fluff"...I don't think so.
 
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He had a few opportunities last year to make a play, one of which should have been an easy TO. He can only get better, and I hope he can at least pull the defense away from other playmakers.
 
Tough to have any confidence in Jester W. after what we've seen. Watched him some in the Spring Game - with high-apple-pie-in-the-sky hopes - and although he made a few catches, he just doesn't seem to have the instincts or confidence to make plays at this level...

Go Pitt.
 
Catching a ball in practice with no gameday pressure, without 50k+ people watching etc is much different than when the lights come on. He might start the season off as #2 or #3, but I expect someone to pass him soon after he drops a few. It's a lot of pressure to put on in front of a packed stadium with the game on the line...he doesn't seem to have it in him. Hope he proves me wrong.
 
Dude is basically the guy from Necessary Roughness and The Replacements. I just hope he can help us to a win over the UT Colts in our rivalry game.
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Don't throw it to stone hands!!!! Hope he steps up, I like to cheer for kids that are proud to be at PITT-- lets get it done young man!!
 
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If he can catch this offense could be our best in years! I really think he is the wild card assuming everyone else is healthy!

Thoughts?
3 years of college football without a reception in a live game, while playing in a thin position group.

Don't hold your breath. There's a reason this guy had exactly one P5 offer out of HS despite being an athletic freak.
 
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tracking a football and catching it at its high point or catching it while you are twisting around is as much a athletic ability as running a 4.3 forty. Just like the 40 time it can be improved but someone who runs a 4.9 is never going to run a 4.3 and someone who struggles to catch is not going to have great hands. Just have to hope they can become adequate.
 
Weah was named first team in the depth chart yesterday so the coaches must feel his hands are adequate. My point is that with our OL and running game if we find a way to go deep enough to keep teams from loading the box we have a tough offense to play against. Weah has good speed and if his hands are okay he could & should be that guy for us!
 
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Weah was named first team in the depth chart yesterday so the coaches must feel his hands are adequate. My point is that with our OL and running game if we find a way to go deep enough to keep teams from loading the box we have a tough offense to play against. Weah has good speed and if his hands are okay he could be that guy for us!

I am sure you are correct. Weah's job will not be catching balls in traffic or draped with a defender. It will be to stretch the defense with his tremendous speed running deep patterns. All he needs to be able to do is make that wide open deep catch often enough that he presents a threat that prevents defenses from risking bringing all the DB's up tight to stop the run.
 
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Weah was named first team in the depth chart yesterday so the coaches must feel his hands are adequate. My point is that with our OL and running game if we find a way to go deep enough to keep teams from loading the box we have a tough offense to play against. Weah has good speed and if his hands are okay he could & should be that guy for us!
I think the Wideouts will just be fine along with TE Orndoff, Running Backs full of Fresh Legs, and Offensive Line that can control the Line of Scrimmage against all Teams including Clemson.

I have High Confidence in Pitt's DL too, especially with the "PRICE is Right"!.

However, I am worried about LB depth in case of injuries, but Bam Bam Bradley may make it work with a Smart Zeise/

Although DB lacks some of experience with New Talented DB Recruits, if they can play great early without too many mistakes, Pitt could be 3-1 or 4-0 in first 3 games?

Yet, I am really waiting on the "WHITEHEAD Surprise" 15 to 20 plays on offense, and the "WHITEHEAD Tip Of Spear" on Defense.

Much depends on OC Canada and QB Peterman Execution working together and staying healthy and will become a cheap hit target all season long by the other teams, as I see it right now?
 
I am sure you are correct. Weah's job will not be catching balls in traffic or draped with a defender. It will be to stretch the defense with his tremendous speed running deep patterns. All he needs to be able to do is make that wide open deep catch often enough that he presents a threat that prevents defenses from risking bringing all the DB's up tight to stop the run.
Hope he spends some time talking to Martavis Bryant and Sammie Coates the next few weeks? Or Steeler's WR Coach Richard Mann from Aliquippa!
 
3 years of college football without a reception in a live game, while playing in a thin position group.

Don't hold your breath. There's a reason this guy had exactly one P5 offer out of HS despite being an athletic freak.
This. This. This. THIS!!!

Playing time at WR for Pitt might have been the easiest chance to succeed in a P5 program since Weah has been here.
 
That's OBVIOUSLY a different Jester Weah because it's been common knowledge on this board that our Jester Weah could never catch a football.
Really? This is the topic you are going to go all homer on? Because of a highlight film from high school where he was a pretty average player against crap competion?
 
Really? This is the topic you are going to go all homer on? Because of a highlight film from high school where he was a pretty average player against crap competion?
I've posted this before, but I'd settle for the guy being a one-trick pony: with his speed, send him on a deep fly- or post- pattern every play. If his one trick produces touchdowns, who'd complain?

And besides, he wouldn't need Larry Fitzgerald -type talent if Nate can float a 40-yd bomb into his hands.
 
Really? This is the topic you are going to go all homer on? Because of a highlight film from high school where he was a pretty average player against crap competion?
Not going all homer. Just pointing out that he hasn't had his chance yet so I will not pass judgement yet. And players do improve.
 
That's OBVIOUSLY a different Jester Weah because it's been common knowledge on this board that our Jester Weah could never catch a football.
Yeah, those H.S. highlight films say it all about college players. The rest of the P5 programs must not have seen that one or they would've been all over him.

3 years at Pitt without a single catch in an actual game. I guess the coaches under both PC and PN are just clueless as to his capabilities.

The coaches have been talking him up this spring and fall, so maybe there's some hope, but unless he has become a completely different player between the end of his 3rd year in the program and now, there is plenty of reason to be skeptical.
 
were the only p5 school having this much discussion about a receiver in year 3 that has not caught one single ball.

then we have posters talking about how important he is to the season and says something along the lines of.....if he can catch the ball. Listen to yourself people.

Offer sheets matter.
 
Not going all homer. Just pointing out that he hasn't had his chance yet so I will not pass judgement yet. And players do improve.
He hasn't had his chance in 3 seasons at Pitt? With the #2 WR spot up for grabs every one of those seasons? C'mon now.
 
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were the only p5 school having this much discussion about a receiver in year 3 that has not caught one single ball.

then we have posters talking about how important he is to the season and says something along the lines of.....if he can catch the ball. Listen to yourself people.

Offer sheets matter.
Actually, this is year 4 in the program--he redshirted as a freshman. He has had every opportunity to show something. I know the coaches really want him to be the guy because of his size and athleticism, so I expect he will get plenty of reps in the first couple of games. we'll see what he does with them.
 
This thread is exactly why I go crazy when I see some of you guys moan about recruits that aren't "playmakers" or "aren't highly rated". If you're recruiting a WR, make sure he can catch a football. First. Then you put the kid in situations where he can succeed.

Read a lot of scouting reports for college and the NFL that talk about speed and route running and a lot of other "skills" that effectively mean nothing if the guy cannot catch a football.
 
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This thread is exactly why I go crazy when I see some of you guys moan about recruits that aren't "playmakers" or "aren't highly rated". If you're recruiting a WR, make sure he can catch a football. First. Then you put the kid in situations where he can succeed.

Read a lot of scouting reports for college and the NFL that talk about speed and route running and a lot of other "skills" that effectively mean nothing if the guy cannot catch a football.
Huh? But this kid was passed over by everyone. He wasn't a playmaker. He was fast. That was it. He couldn't even dominate his crap competition. This is a fantastic example of the people "moaning" about not getting coveted playmakers. We settled on this project kid because he could run fast and hoped he could figure everything else out.
 
Sometimes I wonder how many on this site are actually fans of PITT!

I am not looking though rose colored glasses but if we can stretch the field our offense will be hard to stop. I am sure the coaches would not have him on the 1st team if they didn't think he can catch.
 
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He hasn't had his chance in 3 seasons at Pitt? With the #2 WR spot up for grabs every one of those seasons? C'mon now.
You guys win.No one ever "gets it" after he's been there 3 years. Seriously, since he is apparently running with the first unit now can we at least wait till he fails to totally write him off? That's all I am saying. Some of you guys seem to be rooting against him just to say "I told you so".
 
Well, he was first team all state in high school, so he was pretty dominating, so that is unfair of the kid.

What IS fair is he has ZERO catches for us. So, that being said, I have close to zero confidence that he will be a game changer this year as well. And as others said, if this is wrong, then I will be nothing but happy for Mr. Weah.

I think the telling sign was this super fast speedster/hurdler wasnt on kickoff returns. Kinda told me his hands are in question. He seems like a great kid though, and well spoken, so I am rooting for him.
 
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