Well, we're 2-0....
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Really? Seems we've lost these games before so why exactly would winning mean we're not very good?
I swear that some Pitt "fans" are only happy when we lose.
I saw a defense improve from the first week. I saw a backup qb play okay. I saw pitt beat 2 teams that we had lost to the past two times we have played them. I also remember a 62-0 drubbing of Delaware last year leading to a 6 win season. I will take 2-0 over the alternative and enjoy how Narduzzi s first season plays out
And then some others see a sloppy win against a bottom feeder opponent that any decent P5 team would destroy as a bad omen. I guess that just means they're not "real" Pitt fans.
What's interesting is that I believe we are much sounder defensively but not where we thought we'd be offensively. But we couldn't beat Akron at home last year WITH James Connor. The offensive issues in the first 2 games are fairly easily explainable- no Boyd last week, a couple new starters on the OL and Conner's unavailability for a game and a half. Add to that the fact that the QB play has been undeniably spotty so far. Instead of picking up where he left off last year and improving Voytik has been very shaky. Hard to say how the rest of the season will play out. If the O cones around Pitt could win 8 games; if not, could be .500 again. Next week's game has been the sort of linchpin game that we have Lost nearly every year as far back as I can remember- Texas A&M, Iowa, Nebraska, Michigan St.- all first big game tests we've flunked over the years. It will be interesting to see how we respond next week.
I think that the fact that our returning starting QB has struggled to the point that we are into our backup QB after 2 games against weak opponents is a really bad sign.
And some seen #6 Auburn go to OT w/ Jackson St or Toledo (MAC) take out Arkansas
Do what ya have to do to get the "W" week to week and keep trying to improve... All that matters is 2-0
At end of November no one will care about sloppy or not ONLY W's
Unexpected for sure but only time will tell if ultimately the QB play, which was only average at best last year, will be better this year in the long run.
depends on if the team improves from week to week. We don't have the talent to just mail in results. We have enough talent to win 8 or so, but we need to have sound game plans put together every week, we need to have good execution every play every week, and we need to avoid the injury bug from biting any more of our ass off.
better than YSU and akron.
which couldn't be said the last time we played both.
now on to another team that we couldn't say we were better than the last time we played. keep flipping that script boys!
which couldn't be said the last time we played both.
now on to another team that we couldn't say we were better than the last time we played. keep flipping that script boys!
Just another negative poster that doesn't know football.
We outplayed Akron badly. It was night and day from 12 months ago... They mopped us up last meeting. We turned the tables
I dont think badby is negative, just stating what he sees. This isn't a very good team, nor does it have the potential to be. Just be thankful our league blows. Expect between 4 and 8 wins. Be thrilled if its 8, and just be patient for progress if its at the low end of the range. Let's see what Narduzzi does when he gets his own guys.
Take the win, move on, and let's see improvement every game.
While watching the game, I thought there was a zero percent chance we would lose, and I didn't think Akron had much of a chance to even really score in the second half. That score might as well have been 50-7. Even the awful announcers said that right before our last score. They said if we get a TD it seems unlikely that they will be able to catch up.
We tried to control the ball and get out of that crappy weather with a win and no injuries.
While watching the game, I thought there was a zero percent chance we would lose, and I didn't think Akron had much of a chance to even really score in the second half. That score might as well have been 50-7. Even the awful announcers said that right before our last score. They said if we get a TD it seems unlikely that they will be able to catch up.
We tried to control the ball and get out of that crappy weather with a win and no injuries.
yeah after we stuffed akron the first couple series i almost lost interest because it seemed over. peterman kept me watching because i wanted to see what he would do + the spectacle of the defense actually swarming and actually getting sacks and TFLs in a post-aaron donald world. it seems like if these supposed cupcakes have a good or even serviceable QB then eventually pitt's D would break. akron doesn't have a good or even serviceable QB - sorry chapman but you're not there yet and i doubt you're ever going to be - and pitt's defense has a much better scheme and overall philosophy now.
What can I say, you have me pegged TT. I can't challenge your vast knowledge of a game I'm sure you have intimate knowledge of. I'll bet you even played touch football in the backyard a few times growing up.[/QUOTE]
Hah.. You need help on your put downs. I lettered at Pitt.
Hey at least you have TD backing you up
New coach new system combined with a young team what do you really expect ? This year will be all about improvement and I'm sure there will be bumps along the way. Pitt needs to find a way to win more recuriting battles in both Fb and bb to elevate both programs . In Fb it doesn't hurt having PSU SUCK this year ,maybe some WPa kids will think twice about going there.
Agree completely, steel. Also must note that Ollison and Boyd were limited with cramps and the team still moved the ball. While I agree they do not look great right now, did we really expect them to? This team is a work in progress and there will be ups and downs. That is the Pitt way. I remember losing to YSU and getting crushed by Cincy, then walking into the VaTech game expecting the worst. Guess what, Pitt won. Who callled that one? Tough to judge on a game against YSU and another in a downpour, but there are good signs in some areas. We still lack playmakers at LB and WR, but let's see what happens. By the way, does anyone know the last Pitt coach to win his first two games?
shouldn't you be celebrating that awesome win against Buffalo?
This team can be really good actually. Voytik was benched basically after starting 8 for 8! Our THIRD STRING running back ran for 200+ against Youngstown. I absolutely love that we finally are pressuring the quarterback after years of a total dud defense. We have a legit qb competition that at first I thought was so idiotic to rotate, but now I don't see any way this hurts us. In fact, I think Narduzzi/Chaney use this to our advantage similar to Leak/Tebow at Florida. And a quick personal observation/prediction: Avonte Maddox is a future first round pick. Mark it down! He adds excellent return skills to his skill set at corner where he may be just as good as Revis was here. Kid is an absolute stud! Watch the film from Akron just to get a small sample. Chapman throws a perfect pass right into hands of receiver, and Maddox who had great coverage on him just swats the ball right through receiver's hands. I am telling you, it will be known soon,he will be regarded as the best cornerback in the nation sooner rather than later.
No question Maddox will be a top round NFL pick -- partly because of Duzz's reputation in developing CB's -- but Maddox was on his way to elite status even in the absolutely crappy House offense -- I agree, he's a stud -- haven't seen anyone that good at CB for Pitt since Revis - not an overstatement.
That's what I'm saying bro! He really was playing better and better every week last year and our D coordinator had no clue how to run a defense, not a single sniff of a clue. With Narduzzi as coach, he knows the talent Maddox has and will only put him in a better position to be the best he can be which is basically the best in college football hopefully.
Maddox does a nice job of knocking the ball lose if the receiver gets his hands on it. He did it a few times yesterday.
I know the coaches think highly of him. I spoke with Conklin at the Narduzzi event in Philly and Maddox was the first player he mentioned that they expect big things from.
I know the coaches think highly of him. I spoke with Conklin at the Narduzzi event in Philly and Maddox was the first player he mentioned that they expect big things from.
Might be true, saw complaints about Hillgrove on the Radio, meaning when not going to games lets bitch about the Radio about 24-7 win on the Broadcasters?
Another complaint about Pitt playing at Akron, and that tells me, some Posters just prefer complaining about Pitt on anything and everything even after both wins.
What whining about nothing!
Hah.. You need help on your put downs. I lettered at Pitt.
Hey at least you have TD backing you up[/QUOTE]
He's a varsity letterman! So he has that going for him.
Yet, you defended the last staff( who was average AT BEST ) to the bitter end.
That coached us against those squads and lost........go figure.
You calling out folks saying they don't know football is comical.
After reading your posts year after year. Your one of those Pitt fans who are happy no matter what Pitt does. Mediocrity is your benchmark.
Pitt fans like this do waaaaay more harm than good.
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The poster has a point. Pitt needs to get a lot better if we ever turn the corner as a program.
I have a feeling we are in much better hands under this new staff.
However, i can't understand why guys who call it like they see it. Gets attacked by the morons who defended every horrible coaching staff Pitt has had over the last 30 years.
You would think they would be a little more humble after been proven wrong over and over again.
I have a feeling we are in much better hands under this new staff.
However, i can't understand why guys who call it like they see it. Gets attacked by the morons who defended every horrible coaching staff Pitt has had over the last 30 years.
You would think they would be a little more humble after been proven wrong over and over again.
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I happen to agree with the OP that the offensive line has become a major concern. Not just the inexperience of the two freshmen tackles, but Artie R. seems to be having his troubles. I saw the Akron defensive tackles pushing him into the backfield on several plays - I remember that 2 years ago he struggled against the bigger DTs too. I think we need Officer to go back to center and try the next best guard at right guard...
Another concern is on the defense, where teams with better QBs and WRs are going to be hitting those WRs running down the field - which Akron was unable to do. Maybe the return of a healthy Mitchell helps that problem.
Hoping for the best, but seeing some holes...
Go Pitt.
Another concern is on the defense, where teams with better QBs and WRs are going to be hitting those WRs running down the field - which Akron was unable to do. Maybe the return of a healthy Mitchell helps that problem.
Hoping for the best, but seeing some holes...
Go Pitt.
The "you never played the game" comeback is literally one of the stupidest things I've ever heard. I never played the game, and Eli Manning is a 2 time Super Bowl champion, Yet he chose to throw the ball away instead of just taking the sack at the end tonight, effectively costing his team the game. Anyone with a clue knew he had to take the sack and run the clock. Cris Collinsworth has played the game and announced it forever, yet it took him an eternity to realize Manning needed to take the sack there.
From my own personal experience former players and coaches are absolutely the squarest people on earth when it comes to betting on games. I would literally take a chicken pecking feed out of a trays opinion on who will win a game over a former player. They have absolutely no clue, and in my experience that has been true 100% of the time.
Using the you never played the game thing is essentially confusing talent with knowledge. One has nothing to do with the other.
From my own personal experience former players and coaches are absolutely the squarest people on earth when it comes to betting on games. I would literally take a chicken pecking feed out of a trays opinion on who will win a game over a former player. They have absolutely no clue, and in my experience that has been true 100% of the time.
Using the you never played the game thing is essentially confusing talent with knowledge. One has nothing to do with the other.
You have no idea HOW good this team is right now. We are 2-0, and CAN beat anyone on our schedule I believe, with the exception of GT. If you didn't see a more "sound" team in a number of ways this past week, then you just didn't want to. We weren't playing OSU, but neither was Arkansas.
I think they will win between 4 & 8 games. We'll see if I have an idea or not.
Scaz, you can look at the talent on the field and see that this team is lacking in a lot of areas. Winning games versus a weak schedule doesn't make a good team.
And you can say that for about 98 teams. We will see as the season shakes out, but we have LOST more than a couple games like the YSU/Akron games in the past decade.
What I am encouraged by is the increased physicality on defense.
I see an interior defensive line that is very strong. I see a kid like Whitehead making an immediate impact, very good TEs, and some flexibility at the running back position. The offensive line, when healthy is a strength
You MUST take the weather into consideration at Akron also, in reference to the passing game.. If you were there, like I was.. it bordered on unbearable.
If we win the 3 or 4 games v the "weak teams" and split the others we end up with between 7 and 9 wins, and that is essentially the formula that most POWER 5s , besides the OSUs, Bamas, and Oregons, etc live by.
Pitt is physically superior to Akron & YSU. Also, Akron & YSU have not looked good in their other games so far this year.
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