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What about Barnes leaving?

Oregon State is one of the worst and poorest athletic departments in the Power 5. It's not exactly a standout academically either. It is a definitive step down. That should tell you quite a bit.

What is the implication? That he was asked to leave?
 
Oregon State is one of the worst and poorest athletic departments in the Power 5. It's not exactly a standout academically either. It is a definitive step down. That should tell you quite a bit.
Are you trying to imply he was forced out or Pitt's fans are such a turn off that he was willing to take the first flight out?
 
What is the implication? That he was asked to leave?

Yeah, I don't know. I have no inside knowledge here. There are only 2 possibilities. He spent a lot of years in the Pacific Northwest. If he leaves, either he really wants to get back to that region (i.e. hates living in Pittsburgh), or he is being shoved out. In either case, there is certainly no reason to want him at Pitt any longer if he does pull the trigger (or is having it pulled for him).

I don't think it is reasonable for anyone that is motivated by career advancement to look at Oregon State as even a lateral move from Pitt.

This is the complete opposite of losing Canada to LSU.
 
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Are you trying to imply he was forced out or Pitt's fans are such a turn off that he was willing to take the first flight out?
If he was "fired" it would have been in PITT's best interest to tell that story.
Right now it looks like he was a bad hire, took advantage of PITT, and is riding out of town with the money and a job!
He should have been canned!
 
Corvallis is a beautiful area and the job is definitely lower pressure than here at Pitt. Their programs are usually mid to lower tier PAC 12 programs and I don't think their expectations are as high as they are here.
 
Uh, yeah.
Do your research before posting unsubstantiated bs.
Excuse me? This is my first post on this thread so I don't know what "bs" you are referring to. All I wanted to know was some more information regarding the state of the program. I'll assume you thought I was the poster you were having the prior conversation with.

@SVPanther
 
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Stallings better get Pitt into the NCAA Basketball Tournament this year and many years to come.

Also didn't he lower Jamie Dixon's buyout making it easier (financially) for TCU to take Jamie.

Hey Barnes if you didn't lower the buyout you could have had the extra money to help retain the OC.

What a guy.

Why did they get a guy from Utah State (AD Barnes).

Utah State!!!!! LOL!!!!

Todd (High Octane) Graham 5-7 at Arizona State. LOL!!!!

HAIL TO PITT!!!!
 
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What I know.
1. The current Chancellor and Board of Trustees are focused on Pitt's traditional mission. Research, Grad Programs and third, the undergraduate academic program.
2. Football is expensive, the Athletic Department loses money. Pitt doesn't have a Phil Knight or Boone Pickens type to pick up the slack.
3. Winning is nice, but not to the extent you sacrifice your main mission.
4. We are not Stanford, Duke nor Vanderbilt academically or athletically. I don't even think that's Pitt's goal. Pitt is a good school and athletics will not rule, as at too many other cesspools.
5. I'm cool with that focus.
 
Corvallis is a beautiful area and the job is definitely lower pressure than here at Pitt. Their programs are usually mid to lower tier PAC 12 programs and I don't think their expectations are as high as they are here.

Usually you don't progress up the career ladder by going to places that have lower expectations. I know Oregon can be beautiful, but of the people that I've know have lived and grown up there, I've never heard them speak well of Corvallis. I've never been to Corvallis myself so I can't speak to it.
 
If he was "fired" it would have been in PITT's best interest to tell that story.
Right now it looks like he was a bad hire, took advantage of PITT, and is riding out of town with the money and a job!
He should have been canned!
You can the guy, you pay!!!
 
Usually you don't progress up the career ladder by going to places that have lower expectations. I know Oregon can be beautiful, but of the people that I've know have lived and grown up there, I've never heard them speak well of Corvallis. I've never been to Corvallis myself so I can't speak to it.
Maybe we should've seen this coming. Wasn't Barnes a West Coast guy his whole life? Might've been a bad fit from the beginning, and maybe his end game was getting a PAC 12 job.
 
What I know.
1. The current Chancellor and Board of Trustees are focused on Pitt's traditional mission. Research, Grad Programs and third, the undergraduate academic program.
2. Football is expensive, the Athletic Department loses money. Pitt doesn't have a Phil Knight or Boone Pickens type to pick up the slack.
3. Winning is nice, but not to the extent you sacrifice your main mission.
4. We are not Stanford, Duke nor Vanderbilt academically or athletically. I don't even think that's Pitt's goal. Pitt is a good school and athletics will not rule, as at too many other cesspools.
5. I'm cool with that focus.
Screw this Board of Trustees. They're a bunch of washed up executives looking for a free meal quarterly. They cowtail to WHATEVER the chancellor tells them. Your post is a thinly veiled suggestion that these developments are somehow a counter move to subordinate athletics to academics. It"so also a crock of BS.
 
What I know.
1. The current Chancellor and Board of Trustees are focused on Pitt's traditional mission. Research, Grad Programs and third, the undergraduate academic program.
2. Football is expensive, the Athletic Department loses money. Pitt doesn't have a Phil Knight or Boone Pickens type to pick up the slack.
3. Winning is nice, but not to the extent you sacrifice your main mission.
4. We are not Stanford, Duke nor Vanderbilt academically or athletically. I don't even think that's Pitt's goal. Pitt is a good school and athletics will not rule, as at too many other cesspools.
5. I'm cool with that focus.

Well, we are "sacrificing our mission" less than under the past administration because we have been slowly reducing the subsidy from general university operations. Meanwhile, the athletic budget has bulked up quite a bit thanks to the ACC. If it is true that we can offer assistant coaches $1 contracts, than I may have been correct that our advantages with a smallish athletic department, low infrastructure overhead, and low debt burden our playing into our favor with the new ACC money as it may allow Pitt to be more competitive in the athletic world financially without drawing resources from the academic side.

But you are underestimating the emphasis that's been placed on strengthening the undergrad side over the last 15 years. Our aspirational institutions are Michigan, UNC, and UCLA. And honestly, that is where we should be.
 
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Screw this Board of Trustees. They're a bunch of washed up executives looking for a free meal quarterly. They cowtail to WHATEVER the chancellor tells them. Your post is a thinly veiled suggestion that these developments are somehow a counter move to subordinate athletics to academics. It"so also a crock of BS.
I really like Cowtails. Do they still make them?
 
Maybe we should've seen this coming. Wasn't Barnes a West Coast guy his whole life? Might've been a bad fit from the beginning, and maybe his end game was getting a PAC 12 job.

That is very much a possibility. But which is the worse job in the Pac? Washington State or Oregon State? Washington State probably is, but not by a lot.
 
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That is very much a possibility. But which is the worse job in the Pac? Washington State or Oregon State?
I'd say Oregon State. Washington State has a good combination of football and basketball success recently and have invested a lot in their facilities. Plus they have to have better booster donations than OSU.
 
What I know.
1. The current Chancellor and Board of Trustees are focused on Pitt's traditional mission. Research, Grad Programs and third, the undergraduate academic program.
2. Football is expensive, the Athletic Department loses money. Pitt doesn't have a Phil Knight or Boone Pickens type to pick up the slack.
3. Winning is nice, but not to the extent you sacrifice your main mission.
4. We are not Stanford, Duke nor Vanderbilt academically or athletically. I don't even think that's Pitt's goal. Pitt is a good school and athletics will not rule, as at too many other cesspools.
5. I'm cool with that focus.
Can you explain to me the "bs" you were referring to at the beginning of this thread? I'm a little confused since that was the first post I made on here.
 
Can you explain to me the "bs" you were referring to at the beginning of this thread? I'm a little confused since that was the first post I made on here.

My question would be.....why would OSU come after Barnes??
My guess is because it's in their price range and he had marginal success at UtST. The better explanation is that his agent is hooked up with the agent of the FB coach at Oregon State. It's a close knit system. That's why we got Stallings.
 
He says he's not leaving now but take that for what it is. Its definitely because he's from out west. I don't think anyone from pa, Ohio, wv, ny, anything this Far East would jump at a job at Oregon state.
 
That is very much a possibility. But which is the worse job in the Pac? Washington State or Oregon State? Washington State probably is, but not by a lot.
If Barnes is leaving for the worst job in the PAC what does that say about the AD job at PITT??
Maybe he likes legalized pot, a sanctuary city, as many bike paths as roads, and very expensive craft beers that aren't worth the $.
Holy Cow!!
 
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He says he's not leaving now but take that for what it is. Its definitely because he's from out west. I don't think anyone from pa, Ohio, wv, ny, anything this Far East would jump at a job at Oregon state.
I feel like his words were carefully chosen. All he really said was that he has not accepted the job right? It's not like he said he isn't going to, or funny too how he didn't reiterate his commitment to Pitt (commitment to Pitt, hah)
 
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I feel like his words were carefully chosen. All he really said was that he has not accepted the job right? It's not like he said he isn't going to, or funny too how he didn't reiterate his commitment to Pitt (commitment to Pitt, hah)
Exactly. He hasn't accepted it...as of now. He could accept it in 20 minutes for all we know. i don't believe he mentioned anything about Pitt at all. Just said the rumor is false.
 
If Barnes is leaving for the worst job in the PAC what does that say about the AD job at PITT??
Maybe he like legalized pot, a sanctuary city, as many bike paths as roads, and very expensive craft beers that aren't worth the $.
Holy Cow!!

Maybe he can take Peduto with him...
 
JD left of his own volition. Some of you will just make shit up if it suits your concocted narrative.
JD was "convinced" to leave.
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And Stalling will be next.
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