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What boils my blood about super-conferences

Yes, and we can read these things along most corporate web sites about being a good steward to the environment, communities, county as they rape and pillage resources and pollution, leave at the moment tax abatements end, find 3rd world locations where they can people pennies and pollute without penalties. Yet, their mission statement's decidedly read against this.
What is your point? You're comparing for-profit organizations with not-for-profit organizations that I expect would have calling.

Your point seems to that everyone is exactly alike in their behaviors. We know for a fact that isn't true.
 
I agree with SMF's initial premise. IF this does go that way, the "passengers" are also going to be left behind. So if you are going to blow it up, why protect a Vanderbilt, a Northwestern, Indiana, Minnesota, Rutgers, Mississippi State, Cal, Oregon State, etc.....
I’ve been thinking about the idea of a super league for a few years now and this is what I see the “end game” being. The whole point of the biggest brands consolidating their power is so that they no longer have to drag the “bottom dwellers” along with them. Add enough programs to a conference and suddenly they have the votes to start kicking out the Vanderbilts of the world.
 
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$$$$$$. Most of America is driven by money and more stuff. Most Americans would screw there own family for a few bucks. University leaders see this easy money and don’t want it to stop and want to grab as much as they can while they can.


If only Pitt would have followed this premise in the mid to late 80's.

I better stop here. My wife gets pissed when I start cussing around the kids.
 
I’ve been thinking about the idea of a super league for a few years now and this is what I see the “end game” being. The whole point of the biggest brands consolidating their power is so that they no longer have to drag the “bottom dwellers” along with them. Add enough programs to a conference and suddenly they have the votes to start kicking out the Vanderbilts of the world.
I think there are 130 Division 1 FBS schools. 64 P5 teams plus Notre Dame. I think it's the other 65 they mostly see as problematic & a money drain. And that 130 number has probably grown from about 110 twenty years ago,
 
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I think there are 130 Division 1 FBS schools. 64 P5 teams plus Notre Dame. I think it's the other 65 they mostly seen as problematic & a money drain. And that 130 number has probably grown from about 110 twenty years ago,

I have said this for years. In the past 23 years it went from 106 when I was a HS senior to now 130. In the past decade liberty Costco Carolina, Georgia St, Georgia Southern, Old Dominion all FCS powers made the jump to FBS, where no one was going to ever going to take them serious. Last year was proof with Costal Carolina that no one cares about these teams outside of their small fan base.

These teams that jumped up are the clear losers in this because whichever whoever is not invited to this big party, still will not want these teams in their party either.
 
I’ve been thinking about the idea of a super league for a few years now and this is what I see the “end game” being. The whole point of the biggest brands consolidating their power is so that they no longer have to drag the “bottom dwellers” along with them. Add enough programs to a conference and suddenly they have the votes to start kicking out the Vanderbilts of the world.
What is the point of having an SEC or a Big Ten? Do what Euro soccer teams try to do, to an extent. Form your own league of blue bloods. Who needs something called the SEC where you have to share revenue with the Mississippi's, Vandy, and others. I don't understand this need to protect such garbage programs. Start anew, take the top programs. Done.
 
What is the point of having an SEC or a Big Ten? Do what Euro soccer teams try to do, to an extent. Form your own league of blue bloods. Who needs something called the SEC where you have to share revenue with the Mississippi's, Vandy, and others. I don't understand this need to protect such garbage programs. Start anew, take the top programs. Done.
Is there any postseason in your grand vision?
 
What is your point? You're comparing for-profit organizations with not-for-profit organizations that I expect would have calling.

Your point seems to that everyone is exactly alike in their behaviors. We know for a fact that isn't true.
Boom. Chaka. Ala kazaam. You make less sense than anyone here. You aren't that bright are you?
 
40-50 teams

Probably a 16 team playoff, similar setup as NFL.
Right. When the best teams are in one conference, there will be soooo much interest in watching them play with themselves or far inferior teams. There won't be any money for that postseason.
 
The Presidents and Boards will ultimately recognize that football must be reined in. Many of those schools still want to have education as their primary mission.
How would playing in a super league have any impact on the university educating students.
 
Right. When the best teams are in one conference, there will be soooo much interest in watching them play with themselves or far inferior teams. There won't be any money for that postseason.
Like the NFL, NBA, NHL, and MLB?
 
All teams are at the same level in pro sports. You're dividing the college teams into 2 or more power-level divisions. your comparison is meaningless.
No. 1 division. 40-50 teams. Everyone else can play "NCAA Football."
 
I doubt we see super leagues but I have not seen anyrhing that says they wouldn't be students.
There are posts about taking football away from the NCAA, away from Athletic Director control, paying the players, and "affiliation" with the school. All of that points to non-student participation. You may be talking about a different scenario, but that's the one to which I am referring.
 
There are posts about taking football away from the NCAA, away from Athletic Director control, paying the players, and "affiliation" with the school. All of that points to non-student participation. You may be talking about a different scenario, but that's the one to which I am referring.
Yes
 
Paterno set the stage for this years ago when he helped drive the division 1 into 1-A and 1-AA, so that the Ivy League would not be playing with (and having any real input on the decisions of) the football factory institutions that put football above academics.
 
The Presidents and Boards will ultimately recognize that football must be reined in. Many of those schools still want to have education as their primary mission.
And if keeping D1 football means pay players and arranging booster funded endorsement deals, I'm sure that there will be schools that say SCREW THIS, and drop to some D3 model or drop football altogether.
 
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And if keeping D1 football means pay players and arranging booster funded endorsement deals, I'm sure that there will be schools that say SCREW THIS, and drop to some D3 model or drop football altogether.
Yep
 
What boils my blood about superconferences...

Why I won't care if Pitt is left out of superconferences...

you've got it all covered
 
Proof? I see a lot of rumors and inferences but don't see the proof to back it up. This is similar to voter fraud. Some believe it exists while others say there isn't proof.

How does this alleged fraud in athletics compare to other parts of the college population?
Proof?

Seriously?
 
Not sure Paterno deserves credit for that.
The further you drive football into the haves and have nots, and the unchecked power you give football programs over their university and community, the more you are asking for trouble. The same very type of mindset that led him to drive the 1-A/1-AA split ended up his downfall. One can certainly argue he got his just desserts in the end and that he deserves the credit for the problems his program faced.
 
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I guess you don't have any proof when your only response is to imply that I'm ignorant of the obvious.
Lol.

Here are the ways I listed that fraud exists in major college athletics:
grades
course work
admissions
NCAA rules
extra benefits

If you can't name several examples off the top of your head, then yes, you are ignorant of the obvious.
 
Lol.

Here are the ways I listed that fraud exists in major college athletics:
grades
course work
admissions
NCAA rules
extra benefits

If you can't name several examples off the top of your head, then yes, you are ignorant of the obvious.
You provided more innuendoes without proof. You keep justifying my point.
 
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