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The answer is neither. We are the largest town in Appalachia, and a sort of hybrid of Philadelphia and Columbus. We are unique, and a little more tied to the East Coast than the Midwest logistically.Thinking about the Big Ten opting out and the lost Midwestern representation has gotten me thinking.
Is Pittburgh more Midwest or East coast?
I know it’s a really commonly debated question, but it’s still really interesting to think about.
AppalachiaThinking about the Big Ten opting out and the lost Midwestern representation has gotten me thinking.
Is Pittburgh more Midwest or East coast?
I know it’s a really commonly debated question, but it’s still really interesting to think about.
Absolutely correct. Pittsburgh is inland northeast, as opposed to East Coast though. Pittsburgh is loathe to embrace it's Appalachian location, due to the reputation of our neighbors to the south😆, but Pittsburgh is absolutely in the northern part of Appalachia, as are both State College, and Morgantown. That said, while there is a strong relationship with Cleveland, and eastern Ohio, it drops off west of that. Our location in Pennsylvania tends to draw us into the northeast, as so many things tend to be grouped by state. Buffalo is very similar. They're probably more Midwestern in feel than we are, but being in NY results in them usually being regarded as part of the East. The people who argue this frequently use the "pop" argument to put us in the Midwest, while those in favor of the east use the "rowhouse" argument, as rowhouses tend to be a northeast (especially Mid Atlantic) thing, and Pittsburgh, while obviously not covered with rows like Philly, is the westernmost city (outside of San Fran), to have certain neighborhoods dominated by them.The answer is neither. We are the largest town in Appalachia, and a sort of hybrid of Philadelphia and Columbus. We are unique, and a little more tied to the East Coast than the Midwest logistically.
Also consider, when Pittsburghgers have time out, they usually head East or South.
You're comparing big cities to smaller ones. Of course they don't match. Chicago doesn't match either. Baltimore fits very nicely into the first group, as does Buffalo. The Midwest is a poorly defined area. All of those places you listed are Great Lakes cities, and that is a much better definition. The Great Lakes cities are the most homogeneous group in the country, stretching from Rochester, to Milwaukee, with only Chicago being substantially different, due to it's great size. They all look, and feel like each other. I've always considered Indy to be the quintessential Midwest city. It's not a lot like those towns, and it's about as different from Pittsburgh as any city within 500 miles, and that includes Chicago, and Philly. Cleveland, and Cincy are both in Ohio, and they are really nothing alike, as different from each other as Philly is from Pittsburgh. In my travels, of large cities, only Cincy physically resembles Pittsburgh, and the vibe there is totally different. Actually, the places I've been to that most remind me of Pittsburgh are a handful of small cities. I've always felt that you could drop Johnstown, Cumberland, and Hagerstown into Pittsburgh, and each would fit rather seamlessly into the city. Kind of reinforces the Appalachian thing, as of course, all of those are in the Appalachian region. As much as Cleveland is compared to Pittsburgh, I can't think of a single part of Cleveland, that physically reminds me of any section of Pittsburgh.Pittsburgh, Cincinnati, Milwaukee, Cleveland
Pittsburgh, Boston, New York, Philadelphia
Not even close. We are far more midwestern than we are northeastern.
We just happen to be situated in Pennsylvania, so people mistakenly believe we are a Northeastern metro area.
Let me put it this way.
If you make 75K in Pittsburgh, Cleveland, Cincinnati you are doing just fine.
You make 75K in NYC or Boston you are looking to move out.
The answer is neither. We are the largest town in Appalachia, and a sort of hybrid of Philadelphia and Columbus. We are unique, and a little more tied to the East Coast than the Midwest logistically.
Also consider, when Pittsburghgers have time out, they usually head East or South.
The collection of surrounding towns that held industry makes this place unique. The only place I can think of that was set up even remotely similarly is Boston, which like Pittsburgh, was surrounded by industrial towns. in most of the other industrial cities, industry was concentrated in the city proper. It's a reason why Pittsburgh isn't filled with the industrial wastelands that cities like Cleveland, and especially Detroit have. What industry we did have inside the city tended to be along the rivers, valuable real estate that was quickly redeveloped when the mills went away. Pittsburgh is relatively friendly, but the Scots-Irish mentality is still present. The town is notoriously thin skinned. insult the city, and the grudge will be held longer than the Hatfields and McCoys. Other cities aren't like that. Other cities wouldn't have had the orgasm of self congratulation that Pittsburgh did after being named the most livable city. Cincy got this honor later, and the reaction there was much more subdued than in Pittsburgh. Cincy was the football player that spikes the ball after a touchdown, while Pittsburgh was the player that does 5 back flips, and then dances all over the end zone.This “tied” to the east coast is a good way to put. I think we relate more to being on the east coast, in part because our state goes that way as well. We are also further East than most of Fla.
But clearly there is a Midwest flair in there too. Certainly more friendly as a whole. The population here is also more spread out, and the landscape makes it more of a collection of towns than a typical I95 type city. Very unique
A major international city. Pittsburgh has an Opera company and a good one at that. Pittsburgh is really unique is what corporate wealth did for the city. I remember reading that the Pittsburgh region has the most college students anywhere in the country. I can tell you every college grad from a Pittsburgh school that is from the DC area wants to stay in Pittsburgh.It’s a big town masquerading as a city.
Just as St Louis Is the Gateway to the West, I’ve always considered Pittsburgh the “Gateway to the MidWest”. Pittsburgh is more MidWest in personality than it is East. After living in Delaware for 18 years and frequent trips to Philly, Baltimore and NYC I definitely think The ‘Burgh is MidWest.
of course with all that said in SoCal I usually tell people I’m from back East! Haha
Where are you in SoCal? I’m about 30 minutes north of San Diego. It’s possible that I’ve asked you this before, apologies if so. Lol
Used to live in Carlsbad, but bought a house in O’side. Commute to Torrey Pines Science Park. Pre-COVID commute was about 50min then It dropped to 35min. Starting to get longer again. Bummer. Still not pre-COVID times yet and hope it stays that way for awhile!
See, the issue with this you're strictly comparing the Burgh to the Coast. It would mean more if you had also lived in Indy for a while, and still felt that way. My guess is that if you had lived in Indy for 18 years instead of Delaware, Pittsburgh would feel very eastern to you. Pittsburgh is really it's own thing, and it doesn't really fit with either region.Just as St Louis Is the Gateway to the West, I’ve always considered Pittsburgh the “Gateway to the MidWest”. Pittsburgh is more MidWest in personality than it is East. After living in Delaware for 18 years and frequent trips to Philly, Baltimore and NYC I definitely think The ‘Burgh is MidWest.
of course with all that said in SoCal I usually tell people I’m from back East! Haha
The answer is neither. We are the largest town in Appalachia, and a sort of hybrid of Philadelphia and Columbus. We are unique, and a little more tied to the East Coast than the Midwest logistically.
Also consider, when Pittsburghgers have time out, they usually head East or South.
I too lived in Vista for years, back in Pittsburgh area now...Where are you in SoCal? I’m about 30 minutes north of San Diego. It’s possible that I’ve asked you this before, apologies if so. Lol
Jeez..............We seem more east coast to me, I can relate to Philly, Baltimore or NY more than Indy or Minnesota. We have more grease ball people, like Italians, Eastern Euros, Syrians and those damn Greeks and less white bread people and look more like the east coast. Grease Ball? It's like the N-word, since I AM A GOD DAMNED GREEK, I'll say it.
It was a fairly influential "city" that until the 1980's was home to more Fortune 500 companies than all cities except New York and Chicago.It’s a big town masquerading as a city.
You are correct. All Pennsylvania is considered part of the middle atlantic region comprised of NY, NJ, PA, DE, MD, VA, DC & WV.I saw this debate on Twitter a couple of days ago. Pittsburgh may not truly be Northeast, but it's definitely not midwest. I think of it as more mid Atlantic.
Pittsburgh is a tad bit northeastern, a good part midwestern, and another good part Upper South Appalachian. Pittsburgh is unique.Thinking about the Big Ten opting out and the lost Midwestern representation has gotten me thinking.
Is Pittburgh more Midwest or East coast?
I know it’s a really commonly debated question, but it’s still really interesting to think about.
Pittsburgh is not “southern” even a little bit. Neither is Uniontown, Waynesburg, etc.Pittsburgh is very unique. Its a little East Coast, a little midwest, and even a little "southern" especially when you get into Washington, Fayette, Greene Co.
Not the cityPoliticaaly, at least in presidential politics, Pittsburgh is Democratic BUT it, and the entire Western PA region is growing more and more Republican. It is the Western part of the state that gave PA to Trump last election. Culturalky, Pittsburgh identifies more with Midwestern cities than with cities like New York, Boston Philadelphia.