“I think we have one more contract to get in and then we’ll be able to reveal I don’t know how many years’ worth, but several years’ worth of non-conference scheduling,” Lyke said. Nov.18
What's the holdup with future schedules?
- Thread starter TIGER-PAUL
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what's the holdup ?
seems they are workin on this............
2019
seems they are workin on this............
2019
- 09/07 - Ohio
- 09/14 - at Penn State
- 09/21 - UCF
- 09/28 - Delaware
- 09/05 - Miami (Ohio)
- 09/12 - at Marshall
- 09/19 - Richmond
- 10/24 - Notre Dame
- 09/11 - at Tennessee
- 09/18 - Western Michigan
- 09/25 - New Hampshire
- 09/03 - West Virginia
- 09/10 - Tennessee
- 09/17 - at Western Michigan
- 09/24 - Rhode Island
- 09/09 - Cincinnati
- 09/16 - at West Virginia
- TBA - at Notre Dame
- 09/07 - at Cincinnati
- 09/14 - West Virginia
- 09/13 - at West Virginia
- TBA - Notre Dame
- 09/19 - at Wisconsin
To be fair, Lykes quote also might have been a last ditch effort to get Barbor to sign a 2 or 4 year deal. I am done with the nits. The only gain we have is a sell out. And honestly that's more on Pitt correcting long term by winning than by being short sighted and using the nits as a drawing card. I say F the nits and worry about fixing our own issues.
If the '23 OOC schedule is right, we are right back where we were the last 2 years. Please.stop.scheduling.more.than.1.tough.OOC.game.per.season.
Need to stack wins. Wisconsin is considered a pretty decent program for getting to 9/10 wins a year playing soup cans
Look at ‘20. Beyond pathetic. Charmin soft.
Anyone goes to these games, make sure the last person remembers to turn off the lights.
I agree, what's the hold up? How can I possibly be in my seat already for a game on October 1, 2021 if I don't know if the game is going to be against Temple or Eastern Michigan?
I’ll be outside tailgating in the lots halfway thru the second quarter regardless.
If there are still parking lots in 2021.
In fairness, the fans haven’t been going to the games against legit opponents either
But I agree with your sentiment; The ooc schedule is a boogeyman
Multiple wins over teams like Ohio State, Michigan, Penn St etc has more to do with it, as well as their bowl record
I also don’t think they stub their toe very often
Don't forget in this year we play at Florida State in the crossover game. Actually the ooc for this year is exactly the type of schedule Pitt needs to have more wins. Wins equal better bowl games, easier sell to recruits and rankings. Just ask Syracuse. Do you remember any of their ten wins .Pitt beat them but they won ten and got the better bowl game , the ranking and the positive publicity that went with it.
The OP is making a valid point because if you look at FBS Schedules daily teams schedules are quickly filing up . Pitt might be forced to enter into home and home series with non power fives like we just did with Western Michigan.We cant guarantee 'buy games' as the ranked teams can thus the delays I would assume.
absolutely, most of the "needed" games in the coming 5-10 years are mostly the "fill" games. The name teams have been booked and we're looking for the FCS and G5 or MAC type games to fill. These are getting increasingly harder for Pitt because of the going rate for a lot of these games, many are near or over a million dollars now for a "buy game", thus you may see more H-and-H's with non-P5 teams.
In other words, it's exactly like every other power 5 team schedule.
Nope, much more pathetic.
Comparable to an sec ooc schedule but we are in coastal, playing maybe one top 25 team and thug play 3 ranked teams
Really? It’s not just sec that schedules weak ooc. Have you reviewed all B1G teams OOC schedules this year.? Which ones are any better than our 2020? And B1G west is no better than Coastal. The 2020 Pitt schedule ooc would fall right in the middle at least on strength vs all p5. Mainly due to ND. Most teams play 2-3 cream puffs and a mediocre p5. We at least have a top 10-15 P5.
Pitt needs wins and bowl games. That’s what sells to recruits. It does us no good going 1-3 ooc and then needing to have a winning acc record to make a bowl. Unless something changes with mandatory scheduling of p5’s we are stupid to over schedule.
No, he really isn't. Because neither he nor you nor I know what is actually happening behind the scenes.
The notion that on June 15, 2019, we need to worried about which non-conference patsy we are going to play three or four or five seasons from now is crazy.
Lighten up Francis. If you need to be the Lair topic policeman, fine, but nobody is worried, its a message board. Put me back on ignore. Still tbd what strategy she has going forward, if even they have one.
Really. People should just be thankful for any thread remotely related to actual Pitt football or basketball these days. 99% are not.
I personally don't happen to care for the idea of dumbing down the schedules to try to scrounge more wins, I'd prefer the quaint notion of procuring more talent. But it's a perfectly relevant topic for a Pitt footbal message board.
Yeah, but the angst is certainly amusing
I mean, this board has evolved to all we want are weak opponents. But not too weak. And definitely not at their place
I agree with you on scheduling but I respect (even if I disagree) with scheduling weak opponents for more wins.
It’s an interesting debate with validity on both sides.
do what most P5's do, schedule "wins" OOC, then when we get strong enough to worry about qualifying for the "Final 4" and the playoffs, then throw in a second tough OOC game for schedule strength, but until then, get as many wins as you can anyway you can
Most P5s don’t do this. Most P5 teams play a 9 game conference schedule and schedule another P5 ooc opponent. That’s 10 P5 teams. We do that, you guys make it out like we are starting a trend.
Most teams play 10 P5 opponents, it’s just that they do another conference game and one non conference game.
Some sec opponents schedule weak OOC but it’s cause they are in sec, playing 2-3 top 10 teams being in sec. acc has scheduled weak, this conference is the P5 leader in Mickey Mouse scheduling. I’ll give you that.
The second tier of the SEC isn't that much better than the second tier of the B1G. They get a lot of undo credit for being so tough but in reality, outside of GA and Bama, nobody really lit it up last year. But you are correct that most schools play at least 10 P5 opponents. Pitt just seems to find a way to shoot itself in the foot by catching these schools on up years or being really bad in those games.
Yep, if ucf doesn’t have this historic run, our ooc schedule is avg. we just seem to find programs at the worst time possible.
Tiger Paul, I have 2 theories. They are probably trying to decide whether to schedule a lower P5 team or a lower 1-A. Also, they have nobody scheduled the first week in 2021. Maybe a lower P5 team will get them on the ACCN the first week. A complication is that 2022 is full, so the return game would have to wait to 2024, and some schools do not like splitting the home and home. If you have a home and home, you at least know the team better for the return game.
My other theory is they want to see how good Pitt does this year. If they are in the 6 to 8 win range, they may want to schedule a lower 1-A team, but with the cost of 1 and done over 1 million dollars, they may want a home and home. Not as big of a problem if it is not back to back. What do you think?
Bottom line is that many schools are already filled for 2021. They really need to be scheduled out fully by at least 2025 at this point, and they only have that for 2019, 2020, and 2022. However, outside of 2021, they have 2 Power 5's scheduled per season in 2023, 2024, and 2025. The rest of those years will be 1 lower 1-A like a MAC team, and FCS/1-AA teams.
My other theory is they want to see how good Pitt does this year. If they are in the 6 to 8 win range, they may want to schedule a lower 1-A team, but with the cost of 1 and done over 1 million dollars, they may want a home and home. Not as big of a problem if it is not back to back. What do you think?
Bottom line is that many schools are already filled for 2021. They really need to be scheduled out fully by at least 2025 at this point, and they only have that for 2019, 2020, and 2022. However, outside of 2021, they have 2 Power 5's scheduled per season in 2023, 2024, and 2025. The rest of those years will be 1 lower 1-A like a MAC team, and FCS/1-AA teams.
The ACC will let 2 teams , one from the Atlantic, and one from the Coastal play an OOC game if BOTH want to do it. You have your designated rival from the other division every year, and the rest of the teams you see once every 6 yrs. So if you are not scheduled to play a team this year, you can both agree to make it an OOC game. Wake Forest and North Carolina are doing this this year.
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I think Pitt will have to become ore active in recruiting 4and 5 star recruits before worrying about stronger pic schedules. It does no good for them to go out and get there brains beat by good power 5 teams. Oklahoma State is a case in point. That is one of the ugliest games I have ever seen them play. I will agree that future ooc schedules are weak but the recruiting is weak too
Only two P5 games between these 4- meaning 2 of them scheduled Wisconsin style OOC games.
