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Why no PSU series?

Notice how they only give Alabama and Notre Dame a home and home. Syracuse has to do a 2 for 1. Oregon State had to go to crappy valley, we know there is NO WAY PoSU would ever go there. And the only reason they played at Virginia I'm sure was because of the recruiting area in Virginia.

I'm "comfortable" with it. I am not "thrilled" with it, but I understand the thinking.

I am not a PSU fan who likes to use the sanctions as a "crutch", but the OOC schedules being lessened in the 2013-2015 era makes sense in that context. We were expected to be a considerably weaker team, so if you're still trying to win you need to schedule weaker foes. San Diego State was scheduled in August 2013: there were NO sanctions reductions at all as of that moment. Army was scheduled in early September 2014: the bowl ban had not been reduced as of that moment.

Scheduling UCF and getting the "pseudo-Bowl game in Ireland that would also double as a nice trip for PSU fans" also made sense in the context of the sanctions. I admit the Dublin game for what it was: a way to get a "Bowl Game" despite the NCAA Bowl ban. And as one who made the trip to Ireland, I'm glad that we did that. I had a good time.

Anyway, the sanctions are now over, and in the 2016 and beyond era, I expect one Power 5 OOC foe on a yearly basis. I doubt it will ever be two Power 5 OOC foes, as we are seemingly "required" (rolls eyes) to have seven home games a year. But that is what it is and a whole different story.

FWIW, the details of the 5-4 OOC record vs. Power 5 schools in the 2005-2015 era:

0-2 vs. Alabama (2010, 2011)
1-1 vs. Notre Dame (2006, 2007)
3-0 vs. Syracuse (2008, 2009, 2013)
1-0 vs. Oregon State (2008)
0-1 vs. Virginia (2012)

There was at least one in every year in the 2006-2013 era. There were none in 2005, but PSU did play Cincinnati and South Florida, which had just joined the Big East, which did have an automatic BCS bid.
 
Notice how they only give Alabama and Notre Dame a home and home. Syracuse has to do a 2 for 1. Oregon State had to go to crappy valley, we know there is NO WAY PoSU would ever go there. And the only reason they played at Virginia I'm sure was because of the recruiting area in Virginia.

That is false. Syracuse was 1-1-1. 2008 in Syracuse. 2009 in State College. 2013 at MetLife.

Oregon State is one of the few Power 5 teams that is willing to take buy games (if the paycheck is large enough). They visited Michigan just last week, no return visit scheduled. They visited LSU in 2004, with LSU not returning the trip.

Point being, Penn State is not the only team where "there is NO WAY" they would go to Corvallis.

FWIW, Oregon State was pretty good in 2008. 2nd place in the Pac-10, and the only team to defeat season-ending #3 USC.

Anyway, Washington State and Colorado are other examples of Power 5 teams that have taken buy games.
 
Didn't he want to split all revenue equally for everything except football?

Yes, the deal was essentially all schools keep all their own football money and that all the basketball money would be pooled together and split equally. Is it any wonder that none of Pitt and Syracuse and West Virgina and Boston College and others found that deal agreeable?
 
I will give paterno this, it would take some HUGE cojones to propose a deal like that to others when you know you have a large following in football and your basketball sucks. I'm surprised Syracuse didn't jump at that deal since they had the best basketball back then. (Sarcasm).
If that doesn't tell you what a conniving hypocrite he was, nothing will.

Yes, the deal was essentially all schools keep all their own football money and that all the basketball money would be pooled together and split equally. Is it any wonder that none of Pitt and Syracuse and West Virgina and Boston College and others found that deal agreeable?
 
Oregon State took third in the PAC 10 that year. They were still 9-4. And the point is that PoSU never offers to go anywhere unless it's for recruiting or is forced to. I would LOVE for the NCAA to mandate that all teams must have equal number of home and away games each season or close to it. This playing 8 home games and 4 away is just ridiculous and is another advantage the larger schools enjoy. Look at the SEC, they never go out of state for OOC games.


That is false. Syracuse was 1-1-1. 2008 in Syracuse. 2009 in State College. 2013 at MetLife.

Oregon State is one of the few Power 5 teams that is willing to take buy games (if the paycheck is large enough). They visited Michigan just last week, no return visit scheduled. They visited LSU in 2004, with LSU not returning the trip.

Point being, Penn State is not the only team where "there is NO WAY" they would go to Corvallis.

FWIW, Oregon State was pretty good in 2008. 2nd place in the Pac-10, and the only team to defeat season-ending #3 USC.

Anyway, Washington State and Colorado are other examples of Power 5 teams that have taken buy games.
 
Dear PoSU fan, it is not Pitt fans that beat their chests ALL THE TIME about how great they are. It is not Pitt fans who brag about every thing Pitt like all PoSU fans do. I'm assuming you are like the rest of your brethren thinking that every one hates you because they are jealous and they envy you. We know our schedule sucks, we have complained about it over and over again. It is you idiots that act like you are playing the toughest schedule in the country year in and year out.

Let me clue you in on something. People, and I'm not just talking Pitt fans, I'm talking about most of this country. But people hate you because of what you stand for, and what you did not stand up for. NO ONE is envious or jealous of you. You won your last national title 30 years ago, only ten year after Pitt won theirs. You are arrogant. Selfish. Small. We live in the real and rational world. We know things have not been great here. You guys live on as if you are in the national title hunt year in and year out and think you are on par with the Alabama's and Ohio State's. Funny thing is that you are more on par with us. And that to me is hilarious. Penn State is a Volleyball and Wrestling school. They hate you because of what happened there at your beloved school. They hate you because you continue your arrogance in a time where you should be showing humility and remorse. They hate you because you take absolutely NO responsibility or show any remorse for what happened. I know if this would have happened at Pitt, I would have a hard time wearing anything that said Pitt on it and I would NOT be bragging about my football team.

Michigan fans and Ohio State fans hate you, just like most of the country. They call you PoSU. The Iowa fan that started this thread also said they hate you. So go back to your board. That is where the only people in the world care about you.

You realize that Penn State has a tougher strength of schedule than Pitt does, correct? Does it cross your mind to look these things up before just making it up?
 
You realize that Penn State has a tougher strength of schedule than Pitt does, correct? Does it cross your mind to look these things up before just making it up?

http://www.fbschedules.com/2015/03/2015-college-football-strength-of-schedule-ncaa-method/

Wow. 50 vs 52. Of course these numbers will change by the end of the year once there is actual full data on wins and losses on all teams so people can see who was actually good and who wasn't and consequently which teams had the strongest and weakest schedules.

It's a complete joke to act like a schedule that includes:

Temple
Buffalo
Rutgers
San Diego State
Army
Indiana
Illinois

Is stronger than Pitt's just because it has Ohio State and Michigan State on it.
 
Based on the top 20 teams each school has in wins against, PSU has played more games against teams that are not even in FBS (many of which that dont even field D1 programs) than Pitt.

PSU: 101 wins in 143 games (~70%)
PITT: 70 wins in 88 games (~80%)


Huh?
 
Wake me when UPS beats a top 25 team

http://www.fbschedules.com/2015/03/2015-college-football-strength-of-schedule-ncaa-method/

Wow. 50 vs 52. Of course these numbers will change by the end of the year once there is actual full data on wins and losses on all teams so people can see who was actually good and who wasn't and consequently which teams had the strongest and weakest schedules.

It's a complete joke to act like a schedule that includes:

Temple
Buffalo
Rutgers
San Diego State
Army
Indiana
Illinois

Is stronger than Pitt's just because it has Ohio State and Michigan State on it.
 
http://www.fbschedules.com/2015/03/2015-college-football-strength-of-schedule-ncaa-method/

Wow. 50 vs 52. Of course these numbers will change by the end of the year once there is actual full data on wins and losses on all teams so people can see who was actually good and who wasn't and consequently which teams had the strongest and weakest schedules.

It's a complete joke to act like a schedule that includes:

Temple
Buffalo
Rutgers
San Diego State
Army
Indiana
Illinois

Is stronger than Pitt's just because it has Ohio State and Michigan State on it.
Bingo
 
I don't even wanna go back to that board. Clicked on the link, scroll down a little and a guy is ranting about Pittsburgh, PA. Says we are known for a rapist quarterback. These people are literally clueless.
For one, Ben was never charged with anything. He definitely got out of hand when drinking, but calling him a rapist is not true. But I guess there were people over there a couple years ago that literally said Sandusky was innocent.
That's probably a very, very low percentage of people, but still none of them get it. No one thinks of anything else first when they think of Penn State. I won't even say it's right or wrong, but it's the truth and their fans cared more about what happened with JoePa than what actually happened at Penn State. It just makes me sick.
 
[QUOTE="michnittlion, post: 327089, member: 5996"

Temple and UCF are fairly equivalent to Akron, Buffalo, FIU, and Ohio University --- non Power 5 teams that Pittsburgh has played home-and-home OOC in the 2005-2015 era.

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Don't insult me with that--actually, you don't realize you're insulting yourself. Temple just throttled you, you barely got by Buffalo, . . . and extending your "logic" further, you'd be about EVEN with Akron!
 
Yep just looked at the rants ...I'll say it again... Alternate universe.. They are calling others hicks? That's rich.. Zero idea about Pittsburgh in General or even a basic idea of what a cultural event is...displayed by their museum remarks.. Penn State is a vacuous party school with a fan base made up of kool aide drinking cultists.. It's just that simple...
 
Yeah, me too. I stopped reading just as soon as I read that. Let's just say Ben DID rape a girl. It is a horrible crime, but who are THEY to call ANYONE a rapist. Of all the people in the world they should not judge ANYONE! That thread and that response tells you everything you need to know about that fan and why everyone in the world hates them.

I don't even wanna go back to that board. Clicked on the link, scroll down a little and a guy is ranting about Pittsburgh, PA. Says we are known for a rapist quarterback. These people are literally clueless.
For one, Ben was never charged with anything. He definitely got out of hand when drinking, but calling him a rapist is not true. But I guess there were people over there a couple years ago that literally said Sandusky was innocent.
That's probably a very, very low percentage of people, but still none of them get it. No one thinks of anything else first when they think of Penn State. I won't even say it's right or wrong, but it's the truth and their fans cared more about what happened with JoePa than what actually happened at Penn State. It just makes me sick.
 
As I said earlier in this thread, they are an embarrassment to the entire state of Pennsylvania. If you talk to ANYONE out of state, you can't mention what state you are from. Sad to say, I tell them I live near West Virginia. It's pretty sad that you have to say that because of something that happened at PoSU. Everyone looks down on them from newspapers, to Sports Illustrated, to Kevin Colbert, to Saturday Night Live. And yet they wear their colors SO proud.

I don't even wanna go back to that board. Clicked on the link, scroll down a little and a guy is ranting about Pittsburgh, PA. Says we are known for a rapist quarterback. These people are literally clueless.
For one, Ben was never charged with anything. He definitely got out of hand when drinking, but calling him a rapist is not true. But I guess there were people over there a couple years ago that literally said Sandusky was innocent.
That's probably a very, very low percentage of people, but still none of them get it. No one thinks of anything else first when they think of Penn State. I won't even say it's right or wrong, but it's the truth and their fans cared more about what happened with JoePa than what actually happened at Penn State. It just makes me sick.
 
Lol couldn't agree more. I actually stated the same thing earlier. I'm from the suburbs, but I tell anyone I'm from near Pittsburgh. I WILL NEVER say I'm from Pennsylvania. Made the mistake once post-scandal, and that was the first question. Oh, what do you think about Penn State?
 
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