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Will ND be able to take the corrupt officials with them if they make the CFP's?

The refs did it. The last refuge of scoundrels. Good grief.

I don't like bitching about officials either. But... that BS pass interference call against Pitt in the 2012 game out there absolutely stole what should have been a Pitt win from us. There were several calls/non-calls this year that also, I believe, cost us the game this year.

If you don't think that a couple of very bad official's calls against one side in a game can determine the outcome, you're being stupid. And - for about the only time in my post life - I am 100% in agreement with the Kentucky doof. This game (in spite of Pitt's other obvious shortcomings) was taken from us
 
I don't like bitching about officials either. But... that BS pass interference call against Pitt in the 2012 game out there absolutely stole what should have been a Pitt win from us. There were several calls/non-calls this year that also, I believe, cost us the game this year.

If you don't think that a couple of very bad official's calls against one side in a game can determine the outcome, you're being stupid. And - for about the only time in my post life - I am 100% in agreement with the Kentucky doof. This game (in spite of Pitt's other obvious shortcomings) was taken from us
6 years later time to move on.

Even despite that,
If a Kevin Harper doesn’t miss a chip shot Pitt wins.

Pitt loses because they don’t make enough plays.

No conspiracy needed
 
Notre Dame has used ACC officials for home games for several years now.

I guess Back Judge Gary Dancewicz is an ACC official then?

Here is the crew from yesterday's game as listed in the official Box Score:

Scoring Play UP ND
1st 01:26 UP - Ollison, Q. 9 yd run (Kessman, A. kick ), 17 plays, 88 yards, TOP 9:43 7 0
2nd 04:34 ND - J. YOON 22 yd field goal 10 plays, 44 yards, TOP 3:34 7 3
2nd 00:05 ND - J. YOON 41 yd field goal 12 plays, 42 yards, TOP 3:27 7 6
3rd 14:46 UP - Ffrench, M. 99 yd kickoff return (Kessman, A. kick ) 14 6
3rd 02:09 ND - C. CLAYPOOL 16 yd pass from I. BOOK (I. BOOK pass failed) 8 plays, 71 yards, TOP 2:51 14 12
4th 05:43 ND - M. BOYKIN 35 yd pass from I. BOOK (J. YOON kick ) 5 plays, 80 yards, TOP 1:43 14 19
14 19
Referee: Gary Patterson Line Judge: Hugh Campbell Side Judge: Mike McCarthy
Umpire: Terrence Ramsey Back Judge: Gary Dancewicz Score Keeper:
Linesman: Michael Kelley Field Judge: Harry Tyson
 
I guess Back Judge Gary Dancewicz is an ACC official then?


I assume so, because Notre Dame has used ACC football officials ever since they agreed to the current football scheduling arraignment.

And here's another fun fact. Unless they changed this year, Army uses ACC officials for their home games as well.
 
I assume so, because Notre Dame has used ACC football officials ever since they agreed to the current football scheduling arraignment.

And here's another fun fact. Unless they changed this year, Army uses ACC officials for their home games as well.
Joe get serious who in their right mind is going to screw Army out of some calls??

Or Navy with Navy Seals in your pool or Air Force which is even worse with B1 bombers flying over your house??

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I assume so, because Notre Dame has used ACC football officials ever since they agreed to the current football scheduling arraignment.

And here's another fun fact. Unless they changed this year, Army uses ACC officials for their home games as well.

Yep. But it is certainly interesting,though, that the same guy who was on the field for the controversial 2012 Pitt/ND game was back on the field as part of the crew yesterday. Even though Pitt wasn't in the ACC is 2012. It is what it is.
 
Yep. But it is certainly interesting,though, that the same guy who was on the field for the controversial 2012 Pitt/ND game was back on the field as part of the crew yesterday. Even though Pitt wasn't in the ACC is 2012. It is what it is.
He should not be working games in which ND plays. Here is how it works. If Clemson were to complain, then the ACC would listen. Or if this were basketball, and Duke or UNC complained about an official then he would be off the game. The ACC probably wouldn’t do anything coming from us, but if enough schools spoke up then they would.
 
I assume so, because Notre Dame has used ACC football officials ever since they agreed to the current football scheduling arraignment.

And here's another fun fact. Unless they changed this year, Army uses ACC officials for their home games as well.

Thank you for the tidbit about Army, did not know that.
 
He should not be working games in which ND plays. Here is how it works. If Clemson were to complain, then the ACC would listen. Or if this were basketball, and Duke or UNC complained about an official then he would be off the game. The ACC probably wouldn’t do anything coming from us, but if enough schools spoke up then they would.

I agree with that; especially your first sentence. Not sure Don Guman would have agreed with that position, though. :rolleyes:
 
Thank you for the tidbit about Army, did not know that.


I saw that somewhere last year. As I said, it is possible that they made a change in the off season, but it actually does make sense. With them being one of the few independents they'd have to partner up with someone. The ACC has (theoretically) high level officials that can easily do games in New York.
 
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I saw that somewhere last year. As I said, it is possible that they made a change in the off season, but it actually does make sense. With them being one of the few independents they'd have to partner up with someone. The ACC his (theoretically) high level officials that can easily do games in New York.

I’m interested in the aspect that the officials that work Army games are already familiar with the option and it’s borderline blocking schemes as they see Georgia Tech as well.

If they were using rotating crews that never saw that offense I would assume you would see many more flags for crackback blocks.
 
I found this with a quick web search. It's from March 2016.

https://www.newsobserver.com/sports/college/acc/article67547482.html

It contains this blurb at the very end:

"The ACC has 12 officiating crews comprised of eight officials each that it assigns for ACC, Notre Dame and Army games as well as the Football Championship Subdivision-level Big South. The 96 officials reside in 16 states, from Florida to Indiana to Massachusetts."
 
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I found this with a quick web search. It's from March 2016.

https://www.newsobserver.com/sports/college/acc/article67547482.html

It contains this blurb at the very end:

"The ACC has 12 officiating crews comprised of eight officials each that it assigns for ACC, Notre Dame and Army games as well as the Football Championship Subdivision-level Big South. The 96 officials reside in 16 states, from Florida to Indiana to Massachusetts."

Thanks Joe,

Exactly the type of item that interests me.
 
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