Would be absolutely hilarious if Penn State wins the Big Ten
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Hate to say this but if Ped St beats Wisconsin there is no way Michigan will be ahead of them.
I hope Chryst and his boys put a major a** whipping on them
I hope Chryst and his boys put a major a** whipping on them
I have no problem with it since Pitt beat Penn State the more they win the bigger that Pitt Win looks too! Yet, to be fair the disrespect once again ALL BIG TEN TEAMS get versus the HONOR the Big Ten Two in Michigan and Ohio State have proven by playing and beating better competition serves the Big Ten right for the way they set up their Championship Games!
One thing I admired from James Franklin last night was seeing his Two Children sitting next to him during his Post Season & Game Press Conference, it is a fine example of being a Family Man and letting people how important they are to him and why he is Coach today trying to do his best.
I still think Narduzzi will be proven the better coach over the next few years, and you can see why whenever a Pitt Player gets hurt on the field, Narduzzi goes and sees what happens and cares. The Pitt Players say it too.
Yet, Franklin takes a different tack and his family being there for him after winning the Big Ten East was nice to see!
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Really, what it shows is that the "playoff" isn't any better than the BCS. If anything it's worse.
It's crazy that people can argue and believe that two teams from the same conference should be in said playoff when they couldn't win their own division.
It also exposes the fallacy with these giant conferences and their championship games. The Big 12 still is the only one who gets it right.
It's crazy that people can argue and believe that two teams from the same conference should be in said playoff when they couldn't win their own division.
It also exposes the fallacy with these giant conferences and their championship games. The Big 12 still is the only one who gets it right.
UPS has been nothing more than a scooby snack for b1g elite for some time now.
When have you ever seen a team lose two straight during the season, one unranked, and remain in the top 5? Hell the top 10? The end of the season used to mean something. If you're better and winning, you should move up, same goes for Pitt. They're getting screwed as well.
and as a psu fan that would be fine with me. Penn State has been getting better each week and i would be more than happy with an NY6 bowl with almost everyone coming back next year. This has been a fantastic year for penn state with or without the playoffs and the recruiting is beginning to explode with 2018 4star TE kuntz yesterday and they just flipped 4star DT Fred Hansard from florida today.
It is not that simple, if it was Western Michigan would be in and it is important who are playing and beating near the end too?
USC is playing the best BALL RIGHT NOW, but early losses keeps them out! They have moved into the Top Ten.
Oklahoma State was cheated and loss on a Bad Ref Call but still 11-2 even if it beats OU, not in unless more lose!
OU beats OKSU but Ohio State beat OU? PSU blows out Iowa from start to finish then Iowa gets by Michigan next game by 1? Wisky losses to both OSU & UM?
It is a mess, because they won't go to 8 Teams and Conferences don't care.
My Four If All Win:
BAMA
CLEMSON
WASHINGTON
OHIO STATE
EIGHT TEAMS:
FIVE POWER CONFERENCE CHAMPS IN:
SEC WINNER GAME BAMA OR FLORIDA
ACC WINNER CLEMSON OR VT
P12 WASHINGTON OR COLORADO
B-10 WINNER PSU-WISCONSIN GAME
B-12 WINNER OU-OKSU GAME
ADDED TEAMS BY CFB COMMITTEE AT LARGE
B-10 OHIO STATE
MAC WESTERN MICHIGAN
ONE OTHER TEAM FROM A COLLECTION NUMBER OF TEAMS CONSIDERED LIKE IF BAMA LOST SEC CHAMP GAME CAN CHOOSE BY THE COMMITTEE
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Two non-champions from the same conference?
Expect to see everybody else explode if that happens. None of the ACC, SEC, Big XII or Pac-12 would be happy --- they'd honestly be irate.
I'll honestly be surprised if we see two playoff teams from the same conference (much less them both being non-champions). Remember, the committee is a POLITICAL entity. Politics matter in that room --- A LOT. The Big XII folks out there (which include the committee chairperson, who is the Texas Tech AD) are still a bit bitter about what happened in 2014 re: Ohio State/TCU/Baylor.
-I dont like the fact 1 team might get into the playoffs without a conference title. If 2 teams get in without a conference title, the entire format will then be a big joke. Michigan is done, they have zero chance to get in at this point. And Ill stand by what I said. If Penn State beats Wisconsin, Ohio State is on the outside too unless they get help. Penn State vaults the entire Big Ten when they win the Big Ten title, as they should. I dont think Wisconsin can beat Penn State.
It is also whom one plays at the end and when. Pitt just beat Clemson not enough.
Penn State ran off 8 straight OSU, Iowa and Wisconsin but so did USC, OU & OKSU,
Other beat Tougher Teams early but lost close 1 game near the end.
it is a tough call, until they expand to 8 Teams.
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Penn State played two ranked teams at the time. Got hammered by one and needed a blocked FG to win. I think Wisky defense can shut down the nits and the running game and OL is to much for PSU. Big TE stinks and no way two teams should be in.
If Penn St. beats Wisconsin and get left out. the crying and whining from the Cult will be epic. That fanbase still whines that they got screwed in 1994 or even 1969 for the old timers still around. Best case scenario for hilarity is that Penn St. blows out Wisconsin and still gets left out.
-Thats not how it should be viewed. Nebraska clearly sucks. You dont get outscored 102-13 by OSU and Iowa and still be ranked. But at least the Iowa win has some value. The Pitt loss also has value, since Pitt beat Clemson and is now ranked. If Penn State beats Wisconsin, it will then have beat the best team in the Big Ten East and the 2 best teams in the Big Ten West. I dont really see anything to debate at that point with a conference title and a win over Ohio State. If the situation was flipped in the ACC with Pitt, I would still support the 2 loss conference champion with the h2h win over everything else. Ohio State has zero business in the playoff if Penn State wins imo.
You're not going to be happy about it then, because PSU has very little chance of making it.
Ohio St is already in, and PSU would need either Washington or Clemson to lose, maybe even both. There is no guarantee PSU would get in over a 2 loss Oklahoma or Colorado.
The odds certainly tell a big part of what Las Vegas thinks. Ohio St is a clear cut second choice behind Alabama at around 2-1 odds. Meanwhile there are still multiple places in town that you can get Penn St at 60-1. They ain't getting in.
-Its not about me being happy. Its about what I think will / should happen. Herbreit is the biggest OSU homer out there, and he even said yesterday Penn State is in with a Big Ten title jand win over Ohio State. You are also not factoring in Penn State would have a 2nd win over a Top 5 team. So, we'll see. If Penn State gets a 2nd Top 5 win, you can bet the farm they are going to leapfrog teams.
tOSU's overall body of work is better than PSU's. I dont think that is debatable. I get what you're saying about conference champions, but in this case I think tOSU is more deserving.
I also think Wisconsin can beat PSU. I think it will be a good game.
Moorhead has made a big difference at PSU as their new OC.
There was a time I wanted Moorhead as HC for Pitt with Orlando as his DC (plus half of the old UConn staff)
I am cool with anything, we are playing with house money'
I want Penn State going 10+ Wins and make it tougher on Pitt to match it, same with WVU, I don't want PITT playing patsies or pansies, if PITT can't go after being the BEST then they have to beat the BEST, and Pitt did that 1910-1939, 1973-1989, and I want to see that again. Why fear any opponent, look what happen this year, Ohio State bushwhacked and Clemson too? WVU needs to step it up but they beat OU, TCU, and Baylor in the past too?
Pitt by winning the NCS in 1976, and playing beating ND, Clemson PSU, Georgia, Florida, also helped PSU, WVU, CUSE, FSU, Miami, and ND gain more respect and they played in NCS games as well. Even when Pitt lost to USC, Texas, OU, Ohio State and SMU,. Eastern Independents PSU, ND, PITT, BC, WVU, Miami, FSU, Cuse dominated 1976-90s Top Bowls because they played one another.
I would love to have WVU, PSU, and ND on Pitt's OOC every year!
IF Penn State wins against Wisconsin
Conference Record
Penn State- 9-1
Ohio State- 8-1
Conference Title
Penn State-1
Ohio State-0
Wins vs Top 5 teams
Penn State-2
Ohio State-2
Wins vs Top 25 Teams
Penn State-3
Ohio State-4
Overtime Wins
Penn State-0
Ohio State-2
Wins by a 1 score close game
Penn State-3
Ohio State-4
Hotter team to finish the season
Penn State- 9 game win streak
Ohio State- 5 Game win streak
Head to Head
Penn State-1
Ohio State-0
-I dont agree with you and many people do not agree with you
Pitt does have 3 more games with them, I am not going to bury my head in fear, I am going to learn all I can about them and that means sharing with PSU Posters on the Lair, one can push the ignore click, you know! No offense given or taken BTW!
By the way again, every time PSU is mention right now, Pitt's Win is mentioned, and now that Pitt is ranked it helps PSU all of a sudden, I see nothing wrong with it for Pitt, but understand if others do not care for it.
This killing some PSU Cultists on BWI by the way too, Hate cuts both ways, I prefer Respect with friendly Banter!? Juyt me, others can differ.
It is starting to hurt my head thinking about all the scenarios, I can't wait for the ratings on Tuesday, and play on PAC-12 WU-CU on Friday and UW-PSU on Saturday!
-I still stand by what I said. Pitt would have no more than 2 losses with Penn States schedule. And Penn State would have 4 losses with Pitts schedule. It is what it is. You cant be an idiot and schedule like Pitt did this year loading up the nonconference schedule. If Pitt was 9-3 we would be ranked Top 10. 10-2 Top 5. Playing 2 Top 10 non conference teams every year is jackass scheduling by our athletic department.
OSU throttled a Top Ten team at their place, and beat a Top 5 team at their place. Who did PS beat on the road?
Well as a Pitt fan, you should know that 42-39 happened. tOSU also put a beatdown on Oklahoma. The Buckeyes beat Michigan while PSU was curbstomped by the Fighting Harbaughs. A narrow loss head to head, thus a loss in a tiebreaker in no way makes PSU's overall body of work on the same level as tOSU's.
Time for 5 conference champs & 3 at large teams for a playoff field of 8.
Time for 5 conference champs & 3 at large teams for a playoff field of 8.
I think you missed my point. Michigan #3 loses to unranked Iowa. Michigan still #3 loses 2nd in a row to OSU. I've never see that happen and not drop out of the top 8-10. Time of year? It's the end of the year and they dropped 2 in a row. They should be bye bye.
Schedules are made years in advance. Those program have been poster children for mediocrity for several years. And PSU was nothing close to a top 10 team when we played them. OKST... I'm still not sold on them either.
I think Clemson is better than PSU. I think the Nits are much better than VaTech, UNC, or Miami.
-You are talking like Oklahoma State is some type of flyer program. They have won at least minimum 9+ or more games in 7 of the last 9 years. They finished ranked in all 7 of those years. You know they are a legit team when you sustain it for a decade. And you knew Penn State was not dead in the water and they would win again, just not win as fast as they did this year. You know scheduling Penn State and Notre Dame in the same season in the future has the potential of playing 2 Top 10 teams in a non conference schedule in the same season.
-As for body of work, a Conference Championship trumps anything Ohio State did all season. As that is going in the trophy case with the word champion written on the trophy. Beating Ohio State while winning the Conference Title further validates it.
How many seasons has OKST finished ranked in the Top 10? They had a nice two year run starting around 2010 or 2011. They almost always find a way to lose 3 or more games. The have finished unranked 2 of the last 4 seasons, and when they were ranked they were only 17 & 19. They aren't a program to be afraid of. I like the scheduling. It beats playing the Citadel.
I would generally tend to agree with you on your Conference Championship take. However, in the case of a Division title settled by a tiebreaker, when tOSU CLEARLY has a better overall body of work... if the goal of the playoffs is to take the 4 best teams, PSU falls short of tOSU even if they pick up the win next week.
Think about it... 42-39 to Pitt and 49-10 versus a team tOSU defeated. The 3 point home head to head win should not trump tOSU, imo.
I would generally tend to agree with you on your Conference Championship take. However, in the case of a Division title settled by a tiebreaker, when tOSU CLEARLY has a better overall body of work... if the goal of the playoffs is to take the 4 best teams, PSU falls short of tOSU even if they pick up the win next week.
Think about it... 42-39 to Pitt and 49-10 versus a team tOSU defeated. The 3 point home head to head win should not trump tOSU, imo.
I don't care if it's Penn State, Wisconsin, or whoever else. It would be a criminal act for a 2 loss team to get in over OK State if they beat Oklahoma Saturday. It's ridiculous they still count the CMU game as a loss for them. Style points lost? Definitely. But OK State flat out won that game.
-This. And I would argue no one would stop our offense right now. We just scored 76 points.
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