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Nobody looks to play or move off campus while Heinz has proven to a joke. Win and they'll come excuse like vs Duke after beating the National champs in Death Valley the week before. Students must have had a lot of studying to do that next day. LOL. Time to get with the times. Panther Hollow is the perfect spot. H2P!
 
Do you have any idea of how far a frisbee will travel if you throw it from Overlook Drive in Panther Hollow?

Nobody looks to play or move off campus while Heinz has proven to a joke. Win and they'll come excuse like vs Duke after beating the National champs in Death Valley the week before. Students must have had a lot of studying to do that next day. LOL. Time to get with the times. Panther Hollow is the perfect spot. H2P!
 
Nobody looks to play or move off campus while Heinz has proven to a joke. Win and they'll come excuse like vs Duke after beating the National champs in Death Valley the week before. Students must have had a lot of studying to do that next day. LOL. Time to get with the times. Panther Hollow is the perfect spot. H2P!
Who owns that property??
 
I'm starting a dig up bigelow movement. Gonna get a PowerPoint/ paint outline for you guys. Will spread the word with the vigor of zeta on his on campus agenda. Stay tuned.
 
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I enjoy the thoughtful dialogue of a new stadium and like the proposed location in the OC and attached to the Cost center. I have always thought the Cost center was a giant waste of space with the exception of the massive amount of parking below it. This whole parcel of land could be used more efficiently. There is a growing trend with college stadiums of building out the stadiums for multiple use including classroom and research space. This seems like a must for your design. The challenges that remain are 3-fold.

Transportation:
Without any major access and no rail service it would still be a nightmare

Parking:
Where to put everyone and still create an environment conducive to tailgating and preserving the college football atmosphere?

Cost:
Construction cost would be significant in and of itself. The additional challenge is the cost associated with developing the surrounding area.

A few what ifs:
What if this stadium project were to serve as an opportunity to develop the middle hill district? There was a lot of blight that has been demolished. There are a number of lots there. Perhaps this could become additional parking. Parking garages with businesses on street level. Might get some buy-in from the city looking for tax revenue from private developers willing to invest.

What if access for auto traffic was split through the hill/bigelow blvd from the north and through Oakland/376 from the south.

What if UPMC or the university had an opportunity to utilize some of the stadium space for r&d or classrooms?

I think the dialogue surrounding this stadium has to open up to more than just a facility that will be used 7 times a year and create traffic logistics issues. There is an opportunity there to to benefit athletics, academics, research, urban blight redevelopment and ultimately fan experience.
 
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I enjoy the thoughtful dialogue of a new stadium and like the proposed location in the OC and attached to the Cost center. I have always thought the Cost center was a giant waste of space with the exception of the massive amount of parking below it. This whole parcel of land could be used more efficiently. There is a growing trend with college stadiums of building out the stadiums for multiple use including classroom and research space. This seems like a must for your design. The challenges that remain are 3-fold.

Transportation:
Without any major access and no rail service it would still be a nightmare

Parking:
Where to put everyone and still create an environment conducive to tailgating and preserving the college football atmosphere?

Cost:
Construction cost would be significant in and of itself. The additional challenge is the cost associated with developing the surrounding area.

A few what ifs:
What if this stadium project were to serve as an opportunity to develop the middle hill district? There was a lot of blight that has been demolished. There are a number of lots there. Perhaps this could become additional parking. Parking garages with businesses on street level. Might get some buy-in from the city looking for tax revenue from private developers willing to invest.

What if access for auto traffic was split through the hill/bigelow blvd from the north and through Oakland/376 from the south.

What if UPMC or the university had an opportunity to utilize some of the stadium space for r&d or classrooms?

I think the dialogue surrounding this stadium has to open up to more than just a facility that will be used 7 times a year and create traffic logistics issues. There is an opportunity there to to benefit athletics, academics, research, urban blight redevelopment and ultimately fan experience.
Excellent Response!
 
My idea that had absolutely no chance of happening would be:

1) new basketball arena behind Cost like this
ZI-2QLG-2014-XJL00-SPI-55-2

2) Tear down the Pete and build football stadium where it used to be
3) Follow the rest of this masterplan to a T, especially the stuff at Cost
ZI-2QLG-2014-XJL00-SPI-51-1

4) Purchase green space directly between Soccer/Softball fields and Trees and build a retaining wall to even the ground level up to where the rest of the Sports Complex is at and build a parking garage.

Then you're set.
 
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I enjoy the thoughtful dialogue of a new stadium and like the proposed location in the OC and attached to the Cost center. I have always thought the Cost center was a giant waste of space with the exception of the massive amount of parking below it. This whole parcel of land could be used more efficiently. There is a growing trend with college stadiums of building out the stadiums for multiple use including classroom and research space. This seems like a must for your design. The challenges that remain are 3-fold.

Transportation:
Without any major access and no rail service it would still be a nightmare

Parking:
Where to put everyone and still create an environment conducive to tailgating and preserving the college football atmosphere?

Cost:
Construction cost would be significant in and of itself. The additional challenge is the cost associated with developing the surrounding area.

A few what ifs:
What if this stadium project were to serve as an opportunity to develop the middle hill district? There was a lot of blight that has been demolished. There are a number of lots there. Perhaps this could become additional parking. Parking garages with businesses on street level. Might get some buy-in from the city looking for tax revenue from private developers willing to invest.

What if access for auto traffic was split through the hill/bigelow blvd from the north and through Oakland/376 from the south.

What if UPMC or the university had an opportunity to utilize some of the stadium space for r&d or classrooms?

I think the dialogue surrounding this stadium has to open up to more than just a facility that will be used 7 times a year and create traffic logistics issues. There is an opportunity there to to benefit athletics, academics, research, urban blight redevelopment and ultimately fan experience.

GREAT POST! The New Pitt Stadium must be used for anything and everything. Developing the Hill is part of www.newpittstadium.com plan.

Also, for 6 Saturdays a year, get to Oakland early, stay at the hotels, there are 15,000 parking spots on the routes to the Stadium/Pitt Bus routes and Drop off within less than 3 blocks from Stadium.

THERE are MORE PARKING SPOTS AND CLOSER ACCESS TO the OC LOT / NEW PITT STADIUM SITE THAN IS FOUND CURRENTLY AT HEINZ FIELD.

Finally, the New Pitt Stadium must be build in the next five - 10 years. If not, inflation will price Pitt out of building it. We will then look back and realize that we missed a golden and final opportunity to have a world class stadium/athletic/multi-purpose campus facility.
 
Pitt is never getting an on campus stadium back. We were moronic enough to give up the space where it already existed in an area where space is severely limited. Only at Pitt.

30 years from now people are going to be saying "the new Steelers facility is going to turn Pitt football into a winning program!" You fools will take the bait, again.
 
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Pitt is never getting an on campus stadium back. We were moronic enough to give up the space where it already existed in an area where space is severely limited. Only at Pitt.

30 years from now people are going to be saying "the new Steelers facility is going to turn Pitt football into a winning program!" You fools will take the bait, again.
The new steelers facility will not make or break pitt football, just like the current steeler facility. I agree, pitt F'd up by giving up valuable land for a basketball court that needed a 1/3rd of the space but oh well.

I'd love a stadium like the rest of you but it wouldnt make or break pitt football either. Heinz might not be a huge asset for pitt football but it's not a huge liability either.
 
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Finally, the New Pitt Stadium must be build in the next five - 10 years. If not, inflation will price Pitt out of building it. We will then look back and realize that we missed a golden and final opportunity to have a world class stadium/athletic/multi-purpose campus facility.[/QUOTE]

Thank God you are fiscally conscious. I was almost worrried you forgot about that part.
 
The dumb thing was not throwing in behind basketball as they did by committing to the Pete ... But in letting the basketball program descend to hell a bit over a decade later (after seeing it ascend to one of the nation's best). It was retarded, no nicer word, to let that happen. That place now rivals PNC Park as a huge waste, other than holding B level concerts and a commencement.
Pnc is the nicest park in the country. Why is that a waste?
 
I think he means "nice facility wasted by a crap product".
in no way/shape/form can you call PNC a crap product.. from it's economic value to this city to keeping a franchise in this city.. out of towner pitt fans on this board like to complain about all things Pittsburgh that aren't pitt,, throw in a couple "yinzer" accusations for the sole reason to stir up the board. typical del type post. steelers fans are yinzers, pirates suck, pens didn't sell out in 2002, rooneys will destroy us all, blah blah blah.
 
in no way/shape/form can you call PNC a crap product.. from it's economic value to this city to keeping a franchise in this city.. out of towner pitt fans on this board like to complain about all things Pittsburgh that aren't pitt,, throw in a couple "yinzer" accusations for the sole reason to stir up the board. typical del type post. steelers fans are yinzers, pirates suck, pens didn't sell out in 2002, rooneys will destroy us all, blah blah blah.

The product is the Pirates.
 
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