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Yet Another OT Music Thread ... Best/Favorite Albums of the Millennium

I wouldn't call myself a Boston fan at all, but considering where people have their self-titled album ranked in general, it would have to be a contender for best debut album.
 
I put them in the same category as Rush.
I can appreciate their talent , but it’s not for me .
I never liked Soundgarden that much. Same with STP. I liked Pearl Jam's first two albums then after that it was "meh" to me. I liked AIC the most from that genre/time.
 
I never liked Soundgarden that much. Same with STP. I liked Pearl Jam's first two albums then after that it was "meh" to me. I liked AIC the most from that genre/time.

Pearl Jam reminds me of Neil Young. A lot of high highs on the albums, but then sooooo much trash. Like they just recorded every faint idea that popped into their heads.
 
I liked the Blue Album when it came out. Other then that, it's blah to me.

I like some songs from Soundgarden but I don't really care for their albums as a whole. I absolutely despise Black Hole Sun. I have no idea why it received the acclaim it did. I like "Outshined" "Rusty Cage" "Fell on Black Days".
i like soundgarden but despise black hole sun and reach down by temple of the dog. cornell has problems with how to end songs.
 
Pearl Jam reminds me of Neil Young. A lot of high highs on the albums, but then sooooo much trash. Like they just recorded every faint idea that popped into their heads.
i disagree. that other stuff that didn't grab be at first turns out 5 10 15 years later to be their best work. i think that's why i'd put them on the mt rushmore or american music. there songs are fluid throughout time and evolve.
 
i never got into ween but i was amused by those 2 dopey guys and beavis and butthead ripping on them. they have a huge cult following
 
i disagree. that other stuff that didn't grab be at first turns out 5 10 15 years later to be their best work. i think that's why i'd put them on the mt rushmore or american music. there songs are fluid throughout time and evolve.

Yeah, strongly disagree on that. I think they have a ton of filler material, and I could never listen to their albums because of it.
 
Nine Inch Nails “pretty hate machine “
dMB “under the table and dreaming “
Smashing pumpkins “gish”
I’d add as well .
I would be pedantic and argue that Remember Two Things was really DMB's debut album, but your point stands that they came out of the gates strong.
 
I would be pedantic and argue that Remember Two Things was really DMB's debut album, but your point stands that they came out of the gates strong.
Right you are .
Honestly was so thinking about the Recently EP , I forgot about it

I’m adding Sublime 40oz to Freedom to the list .
Along with Mos Def - Black on Both Sides and Wu-Tang enter the 36 chambers
 
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I don’t have a list of best albums this millennium, but mine would include:

Gold - Ryan Adams
Southeastern - Jason Isbell
Yoshimi Battles the Pink Robots - Flaming Lips
Brushfire Fairytales - Jack Johnson
 
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I will say... I know there was some earlier chatter about discovering new music. Going through this list made me realize how many new artists I've discovered in the last 2-3 years. Snarky Puppy, Dangermuffin, Gary Clark Jr, and Theo Katzman (and Vulfpeck, really), are all fairly recent-ish groups that I've come to enjoy recently.

There's good music out there, folks.
 
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I never liked Soundgarden that much. Same with STP. I liked Pearl Jam's first two albums then after that it was "meh" to me. I liked AIC the most from that genre/time.
I really like(d) STP. Musically, I think they were all-stars. I never really thought of them as grunge. I didn't really hear a punk influence in their music. I thought they took the best of the 70's and blended it into a modern sound. I saw them in the mid 90's in Philly - they were awesome. I last saw them at Star Lake around 2009 or 2010 and the audio was pretty bad imo. I literally put Core on the other day and was surprised how much I forgot about the b-side songs.

With that being said - I liked Candlebox's 1st album. I thought STP and Candlebox were closer in style then the grunge bands like Screaming Trees, Green River, Motherlovebone, PJ, Nirvana, Tad, etc. To me they were just classic rock type bands.
 
Here are a few of mine:

Weezer's green album
Ryan Adams - Gold
Eminem - The Marshall Mathers LP
White Stripes - Elephant
Wilco - Sky Blue Sky
Robbie Robertson - How to Become Clairvoyant
Jay Z - The Blueprint 3
The Strokes - Is This It
Bleachers - Take the Sadness Out of Saturday Night
Bruce Springsteen - Letter to You
Jelly Roll - Whitsitt Chapel
Tyler Childers - Purgatory
 
Alright. Been thinking about this all weekend. I can't bring myself to put them in order right now

Kanye West, My Beautiful Dark Twisted Fantasy
Kanye West, College Dropout
Kendrick Lamar, To Pimp a Butterfly
Eminem, The Marshall Mathers LP
Dave Matthews Band, Busted Stuff
Gary Clark Jr, This Land
Theo Katzman, Heartbreak Hits
Chick Corea Elektric Band, To The Stars
Hiromi Uehara, Time Control
Hiromi Uehara, Spark
Tool, Lateralus
Coheed and Cambria, in Keeping Secrets of Silent Earth: 3
Snarky Puppy, We Like It Here
Snarky Puppy, Empire Central
My Morning Jacket, Evil Urges
Dangermuffin, Heritage
POLYPLUS, Good Luck Sound Tracks
Phish, Farmhouse
Dream Theater, Six Degrees of Inner Turbulence
Cake, Comfort Eagle
Tenacious D, Tenacious D
System of a Down, Toxicity
Jay-Z & Kanye West, Watch the Throne
Tool, 10,000 Days
Gary Clark Jr, JPEG Raw
Totally forgot about My Morning Jacket's Evil Urges. Was just listening to it last night. Fantastic album. I'm Amazed and Thank You Too are 70's style songs that walked the line between rock and yacht rock. Great summer poolside listening.
 
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The 90s had a multitude of really strong sub-genres going for it. Of course, I consider "the 90s" to have ended around 1997 or so.
There's an interesting theory that Congress and Clear Channel basically killed this era of music.

Prior to 1992, companies could not own more than 2 media outlets in the same market. So you had a lot of small, independent owners, who had a lot of freedom to pick and choose what to play. This led to a lot of experimentation on radio (and good DJs being very valuable since they often had to stay ahead of trends and be responsible for bringing those trends to non-major markets).

At this time, Clear Channel owned a total of 5 FM radio stations, all in TX or OK. Slight ownership deregulation happened in 1992 and by 1995 Clear Channel had over 40 stations. Then in 1996, Congress basically completely scrapped the rule and through, various mergers and venture capital investment, by 1999 Clear Channel owed almost 900 radio stations.

So you went from hundreds of companies competing to be interesting on the radio to one company that owned a majority of US radio stations in the span of 7 years. This ended radio's last great era.
 
There's an interesting theory that Congress and Clear Channel basically killed this era of music.

Prior to 1992, companies could not own more than 2 media outlets in the same market. So you had a lot of small, independent owners, who had a lot of freedom to pick and choose what to play. This led to a lot of experimentation on radio (and good DJs being very valuable since they often had to stay ahead of trends and be responsible for bringing those trends to non-major markets).

At this time, Clear Channel owned a total of 5 FM radio stations, all in TX or OK. Slight ownership deregulation happened in 1992 and by 1995 Clear Channel had over 40 stations. Then in 1996, Congress basically completely scrapped the rule and through, various mergers and venture capital investment, by 1999 Clear Channel owed almost 900 radio stations.

So you went from hundreds of companies competing to be interesting on the radio to one company that owned a majority of US radio stations in the span of 7 years. This ended radio's last great era.

For me, it was Variety 96 or B94 when I was young. Then I got into the Revolution and the X. I liked the Revolution more, but the X obviously won out.

But I've been surprised at some of the stations I've heard when driving through random places in WV or Ohiopyle, etc. Really cool locally-tailored stuff playing songs I'd never thought I'd hear on the radio. I wish I could have grown up with a bunch of those to listen to. I use Spotify now, and I think it's pretty awesome and definitely helps with discovering new music.
 
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For me, it was Variety 96 or B94 when I was young. Then I got into the Revolution and the X. I liked the Revolution more, but the X obviously won out.

But I've been surprised at some of the stations I've heard when driving through random places in WV or Ohiopyle, etc. Really cool locally-tailored stuff playing songs I'd never thought I'd hear on the radio. I wish I could have grown up with a bunch of those to listen to. I use Spotify now, and I think it's pretty awesome and definitely helps with discovering new music.
Thinking about it more deeply, ownership consolidation also happened with satellite radio. I had Sirius back in 2006 and it was the "cool" satellite option: Stern, NFL, and some really great programming aimed at younger listeners. I remember the Sirius station called Left of Center which was like a college indie station and they were how I discovered the National. I was driving down the highway headed to my first base in West Texas and I heard "Start a War." I had to pull over and scribble the lyrics in a little notebook that I carried with me to find later. I had never heard anything like them on the radio. Fast forward almost 20 years, the National is 100x more popular (they have songs with Taylor Swift even), and I barely hear them on Sirius anymore.

Sirius and XM merged a few years later and just like with terrestrial radio, a lot of the programming got consolidated. Their libraries shrank. They took fewer risks. I often hear the same band at the same time on 3 classic rock stations. I sometimes hear the exact same classic rock song on the exact same station at 9am when I go into the office and 5pm when I leave. I only pay $7 per month for them so it's still a service that I like but it's definitely not as good as it was from 2006-2010.
 
There's an interesting theory that Congress and Clear Channel basically killed this era of music.

Prior to 1992, companies could not own more than 2 media outlets in the same market. So you had a lot of small, independent owners, who had a lot of freedom to pick and choose what to play. This led to a lot of experimentation on radio (and good DJs being very valuable since they often had to stay ahead of trends and be responsible for bringing those trends to non-major markets).

At this time, Clear Channel owned a total of 5 FM radio stations, all in TX or OK. Slight ownership deregulation happened in 1992 and by 1995 Clear Channel had over 40 stations. Then in 1996, Congress basically completely scrapped the rule and through, various mergers and venture capital investment, by 1999 Clear Channel owed almost 900 radio stations.

So you went from hundreds of companies competing to be interesting on the radio to one company that owned a majority of US radio stations in the span of 7 years. This ended radio's last great era.
There is a great documentary on youtube about this.
 
Thinking about it more deeply, ownership consolidation also happened with satellite radio. I had Sirius back in 2006 and it was the "cool" satellite option: Stern, NFL, and some really great programming aimed at younger listeners. I remember the Sirius station called Left of Center which was like a college indie station and they were how I discovered the National. I was driving down the highway headed to my first base in West Texas and I heard "Start a War." I had to pull over and scribble the lyrics in a little notebook that I carried with me to find later. I had never heard anything like them on the radio. Fast forward almost 20 years, the National is 100x more popular (they have songs with Taylor Swift even), and I barely hear them on Sirius anymore.

Sirius and XM merged a few years later and just like with terrestrial radio, a lot of the programming got consolidated. Their libraries shrank. They took fewer risks. I often hear the same band at the same time on 3 classic rock stations. I sometimes hear the exact same classic rock song on the exact same station at 9am when I go into the office and 5pm when I leave. I only pay $7 per month for them so it's still a service that I like but it's definitely not as good as it was from 2006-2010.

I listen mostly to Sirius XMU which is Indie Rock and it's still pretty good.
 
I listen mostly to Sirius XMU which is Indie Rock and it's still pretty good.
I bought a lifetime Sirius subscription about 20 years ago -
To be honest , I don’t listen much anymore . We have an Apple Music subscription so I’ll mostly go to one of their channels , or pick an artist in a genre I’m in the mood for - hit shuffle and let the algorithm take it away

My “Favorites “ playlist has 1,549 songs and almost 93 hours - so it covers a lot to bases
 
I bought a lifetime Sirius subscription about 20 years ago -
To be honest , I don’t listen much anymore . We have an Apple Music subscription so I’ll mostly go to one of their channels , or pick an artist in a genre I’m in the mood for - hit shuffle and let the algorithm take it away

My “Favorites “ playlist has 1,549 songs and almost 93 hours - so it covers a lot to bases

I listen to it specifically to hear new things, and of course, enjoy older things.

XMU Playlist

Back when an Ipod was still a thing, I used to have 5,000 "favorites" in my Library (including a bunch of them downloaded from Napster!), and most of the others copied from my CD collection (about 1,000).

And of course, the Apple Music subscription later rendered it all pretty useless.
 
Thinking about it more deeply, ownership consolidation also happened with satellite radio. I had Sirius back in 2006 and it was the "cool" satellite option: Stern, NFL, and some really great programming aimed at younger listeners. I remember the Sirius station called Left of Center which was like a college indie station and they were how I discovered the National. I was driving down the highway headed to my first base in West Texas and I heard "Start a War." I had to pull over and scribble the lyrics in a little notebook that I carried with me to find later. I had never heard anything like them on the radio. Fast forward almost 20 years, the National is 100x more popular (they have songs with Taylor Swift even), and I barely hear them on Sirius anymore.

Sirius and XM merged a few years later and just like with terrestrial radio, a lot of the programming got consolidated. Their libraries shrank. They took fewer risks. I often hear the same band at the same time on 3 classic rock stations. I sometimes hear the exact same classic rock song on the exact same station at 9am when I go into the office and 5pm when I leave. I only pay $7 per month for them so it's still a service that I like but it's definitely not as good as it was from 2006-2010.
I'm disappointed and sort of surprised that Sirius has not been able to develop a true line up of non-political talk hosts. I assume that Howard Stern is against that strategy. That is the only explanation I can come up with.
 
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