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You don’t have a choice but to fire Narduzzi

It’s a bad loss, but he is also 2 plays from being 5-0
Actually he is 2 plays from trying the games in those losses, not from winning those games. One tie would have got Pitt to overtime, the other would have extended overtime.
 
If you want to play the what if game, then think about all the games over the last 6 years in which we almost lost because we got lax. The game at Duke comes to mind.
 
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Depends if AD wants a 6-6 program every year? I sure as hell am sick of it! The game has passed his Youngstown 1980 mentality by.
1980 Youngstown Mentality is what Yinzers masturbate over!

Personally I'd like a mad scientist like Mike Leach, playing some up tempo anti-Yinzer pass 1st offense.
 
1980 Youngstown Mentality is what Yinzers masturbate over!

Personally I'd like a mad scientist like Mike Leach, playing some up tempo anti-Yinzer pass 1st offense.
Mike Leach when he was younger and in his prime, then I’d agree with you. You need to find the next young, smart, aggressive coach who is innovative.
 
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Who cares, I want to try that, and get away from Yinzer style offense, and if they still go 6-6 or 8-5, same thing. so what?

you had the anti-yinzer offense in 2011 and still went 6-6. Heck you were probably yelling in the Iowa game when the anti-yinzer offense was still in effect and not killing clock with a 21 point 3rd quarter lead.
 
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you had the anti-yinzer offense in 2010 and still went 6-6. Heck you were probably yelling in the Iowa game when the anti-yinzer offense was still in effect and not killing clock with a 21 point 3rd quarter lead.
No, I agreed with staying with your principles. he left after one year so we never got to see it play out. As I remember that was very run oriented, I want insane pass happy, spread and hurry up for 60 minutes. I want something that makes Yinzers heads explode :)
 
I agree that we are two plays from 5 - 0 but that's been a problem recently we are always just a few plays from where we want to be but never quite there. The season can be salvaged but at this point the last two weeks are disappointing and a real black mark on Narduzzi's record.
 
Memo to Pitt fans (and Pitt administration).

1) Big $$ buyout, little revenue.
2) If you fire, who are you going to get?
3) With buyout, what can you afford? I am not talking just HC's but Coordinators and Assistants.
4) We have had too many impromptu coaching searches without a plan and look at the results.
5) What are your expectations (which should be #1) of the program?
 
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Memo to Pitt fans (and Pitt administration).

5) What are your expectations (which should be #1) of the program?

5) At least 2 top 25 finishes in a 6 year span, with one of those being a "special" season (playing for Coastal championship and finally finishing a season with either 11 wins or less than 3 losses). Don't think that is an unreasonable ask. Note: Special season isn't making the Coastal championship but finishing with 7 losses and losing to your arch-rival by 44 points.
 
I don't like saying what can we realistically expect.... we should always strive to be better, so I expect to be a little better than last year, and if you keep doing that you will end up somewhere good...
 
Looking into my Cristobal(aka crystal ball), 2023 brings Joe Moorhead back to his beloved Pittsburgh to take over the Pitt program. Pitt uses the revenue gained from Pitt basketball’s return to top 10 prominence and the ACC network’s contract with Comcast/Nexfinity(after their merger with Netflix) to lure Moorhead home to create a more exciting college football product not seen In Pittsburgh since the 1980s.
I kinda like the vision from your Cristobal (well played) and what you suggest is conceivable. Hometown boy, only making 900k right now at Oregon, so he's available. The way Moorhead went out at Miss St was a bit concerning though, but not enough to write him off. He was a Pittsburgh Yankee in King Redneck's court down there, a terrible cultural fit, and it may have just been doomed to fail from jump street. At Pitt, he would be in his hometown comfort zone, he might even stick around for the long haul if he's successful at lifting the program out of the doldrums.

This is not the worst thought I've seen on this board. The one disagreement I have with you is on timing. Somebody will likely hire him after the end of this year. If Pitt wanted to move on him, they'd better start putting it in motion now.
 
IMO, Lyke does not make a move unless she is fairly certain about locking up one of her top three choices. This being said I would be pretty sure some early phone calls have already been made.
 
Memo to Pitt fans (and Pitt administration).

1) Big $$ buyout, little revenue.
2) If you fire, who are you going to get?
3) With buyout, what can you afford? I am not talking just HC's but Coordinators and Assistants.
4) We have had too many impromptu coaching searches without a plan and look at the results.
5) What are your expectations (which should be #1) of the program?

The fact that this has to be repeated over and over on this board (because someone always wants to fire the HC) is one of the more disappointing aspects of our fan base.
 
I kinda like the vision from your Cristobal (well played) and what you suggest is conceivable. Hometown boy, only making 900k right now at Oregon, so he's available. The way Moorhead went out at Miss St was a bit concerning though, but not enough to write him off. He was a Pittsburgh Yankee in King Redneck's court down there, a terrible cultural fit, and it may have just been doomed to fail from jump street. At Pitt, he would be in his hometown comfort zone, he might even stick around for the long haul if he's successful at lifting the program out of the doldrums.

This is not the worst thought I've seen on this board. The one disagreement I have with you is on timing. Somebody will likely hire him after the end of this year. If Pitt wanted to move on him, they'd better start putting it in motion now.

Moorhead is far from a slam dunk. Many yankees have had success in the deep south, his immediate predecessor being one. I'm not all that convinced about his offense. The Generational one sure didn't put up big numbers it.

If it does happen and Lyke is still here involved with the hiring it will be Creighton from EMU. Checks a lot of boxes.
 
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Moorhead is far from a slam dunk. Many yankees have had success in the deep south, his immediate predecessor being one. I'm not all that convinced about his offense. The Generational one sure didn't put up big numbers it.

If it does happen and Lyke is still here involved with the hiring it will be Creighton from EMU. Checks a lot of boxes.
Agree he’s no slam dunk-neither was Narduzzi, who in year 6 hasn’t even been a missed layup. It would be a high risk, high reward move. Pitt isn’t gonna get any slam dunks.

Creighton would be the hire that causes me to write Pitt football off forever. But the good news is it isn’t gonna happen. Ever.

One would think wins and losses would be one of the “boxes” that the next coach would need to check. His high water mark is a pair of 7-6 seasons and a 2nd place MAC divisional finish. ANd I don’t need the explanation of what am impossible place to win EMU is. I’m well aware of how difficult that job is, but he has a .350 winning percentage. If Lyke hires this guy she’s be run out of town with pitchforks,justifiably.
 
Agree he’s no slam dunk-neither was Narduzzi, who in year 6 hasn’t even been a missed layup. It would be a high risk, high reward move. Pitt isn’t gonna get any slam dunks.

Creighton would be the hire that causes me to write Pitt football off forever. But the good news is it isn’t gonna happen. Ever.

One would think wins and losses would be one of the “boxes” that the next coach would need to check. His high water mark is a pair of 7-6 seasons and a 2nd place MAC divisional finish. ANd I don’t need the explanation of what am impossible place to win EMU is. I’m well aware of how difficult that job is, but he has a .350 winning percentage. If Lyke hires this guy she’s be run out of town with pitchforks,justifiably.

I know, all our slam dunks have been like rejections by Anthony Davis :). Two biggest slam dunks ever that fizzled were Suzie McConnell and Wannstedt.
 
I personally like the aggressive def. I like HCPN and have defended him in the pass often. Win or lose this game. Offensive staff must go. Keep WR coach for recruiting. Try again 6 years is way too long to get an offense. They have enough talent to do everything BC or Louisville does. Shocky, Izzy, KP, Mack would all make plays for those offenses. Let alone the freshman receivers coming along.
I like aggressive defenses too. Moreso when you have the athletes needed to run them. For six years, we've watched him try to force his corners to "play on an island" when he hasn't had one who is big and fast enough to do it. Yet, he keeps trying. Refuses to adjust his scheme to what he has to work with.

I've been a Narduzzi defender all along, but, I'm really sick of watching receivers run wild through our secondary week after week, month after month, year after year.
 
I like aggressive defenses too. Moreso when you have the athletes needed to run them. For six years, we've watched him try to force his corners to "play on an island" when he hasn't had one who is big and fast enough to do it. Yet, he keeps trying. Refuses to adjust his scheme to what he has to work with.

I've been a Narduzzi defender all along, but, I'm really sick of watching receivers run wild through our secondary week after week, month after month, year after year.
I actually understand your frustration but that’s part of this def...it does give up big plays at times in return for lots of pressure. The offense has to do it’s part and doesn’t. Also sadly he didn’t have the def line talent to start now he doesn’t have the cb talent sucks it couldn’t line up. As bad as we have been Mathis probably puts us at 5-0. The 2 back ups are not talented enough and the freshman who are talented don’t know the system. It took Paris a while but that sure turned out good. Honestly given our recruiting ability (not top 20) I’d say the def is not my worry. The offensive style and coaching is the biggest concern even more so then offensive talent. Shocky, Mack, Wayne , Shibley and aj Davis would all get playing time at nc state, Louisville, bc, and Syracuse. As for the bad oline I don’t think they are as bad as we make them. They were brought here for one system and play fin a completely different one. Narduzzi needs a mentor to help him straighten out the offensive philosophy and execution IMO.
 
No to Moorhead. Ten years ago people were pining for Tom Bradley. Now it's Moorhead. He's been tainted by State Penn, hard pass. Stick with Narduzzi, we'll go 6-6 maybe 8-4 and possibly beat a top 10 opponent every year. That's about the ceiling for this program, truth be told.
 
No to Moorhead. Ten years ago people were pining for Tom Bradley. Now it's Moorhead. He's been tainted by State Penn, hard pass. Stick with Narduzzi, we'll go 6-6 maybe 8-4 and possibly beat a top 10 opponent every year. That's about the ceiling for this program, truth be told.
We also may benefit more often from not being the local stepping stone. As in we can offer play now to a transfer qb. That could change a season
 
No to Moorhead. Ten years ago people were pining for Tom Bradley. Now it's Moorhead. He's been tainted by State Penn, hard pass. Stick with Narduzzi, we'll go 6-6 maybe 8-4 and possibly beat a top 10 opponent every year. That's about the ceiling for this program, truth be told.
Dumb take. The guy is either a good coach or he isn’t. He is a cutting edge offensive mind, the only issue is whether he can be a successful HC. But the fact that he did a stint at post-Paterno PSU doesn’t taint a damn thing.

Bradley was a whole different story, starting with the fact that he was a dinosaur. I never understood why some posters wanted him at Pitt.
 
what if he finishes 2-9?

Then you will see the Covid excuses, and that we need stability.

Frankly, Narduzzi should have been gone after last year. The way the season ended was unacceptable. Going 4-4 against a horrificACC schedule was terrible, and they barely beat a pathetic bowl team.

HOnestly, even with the way 2018 ended he should have been on a very hot seat. He has gotten far too much leash IMO.
 
Then you will see the Covid excuses, and that we need stability.

Frankly, Narduzzi should have been gone after last year. The way the season ended was unacceptable. Going 4-4 against a horrificACC schedule was terrible, and they barely beat a pathetic bowl team.

HOnestly, even with the way 2018 ended he should have been on a very hot seat. He has gotten far too much leash IMO.

he's a mediocre guy. that's always hard to replace. and it's probably impossible this year. we have a nice class and to be nice, let's focus on the positive that he can keep the class together. that's all we have.
 
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Heard these arguments before from Pitt fans on the Basketball Board who wanted to get rid of Jamie Dixon and was subsequently replaced with Kevin Stallings.

HAIL TO PITT!!!!
 
The fact that this has to be repeated over and over on this board (because someone always wants to fire the HC) is one of the more disappointing aspects of our fan base.
The fact that we keep repeating 6 or 7 win seasons is what's disappointing. When PN won 8 games his first two years, the fan base was reasonably happy. 6 years in and hovering around 500 against P5 programs is going to piss off the few fans that remain. The fault lies in our performance, not in our fan base.
 
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The fact that we keep repeating 6 or 7 win seasons is what's disappointing. When PN won 8 games his first two years, the fan base was reasonably happy. 6 years in and hovering around 500 against P5 programs is going to piss off the few fans that remain. The fault lies in our performance, not in our fan base.

He's had 3 8 win seasons, 1 7 win, and 1 5 win. If anything we are repeating 8 win seasons for the most part.

That said, I'm more disappointed in that he hasn't fixed the penalty issues and the team lays eggs against opponents too often when we are large favorites and that is an issue.

I'm fine with him being around next year. But his seat should be extremely hot. Especially if the same issues keep occurring.
 
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The fact that we keep repeating 6 or 7 win seasons is what's disappointing. When PN won 8 games his first two years, the fan base was reasonably happy. 6 years in and hovering around 500 against P5 programs is going to piss off the few fans that remain. The fault lies in our performance, not in our fan base.

I mean, an 8 win average isn't going to trigger a buy-out and that was the point of the comment. Our fanbase wants to exchange coaches every time something goes wrong and rarely appreciates what is right. Things certainly aren't great but from the school's perspective, they could be a lot worse.
 
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I mean, an 8 win average isn't going to trigger a buy-out and that was the point of the comment. Our fanbase wants to exchange coaches every time something goes wrong and rarely appreciates what is right. Things certainly aren't great but from the school's perspective, they could be a lot worse.

Year 6 isn't when something goes wrong , I was with Duzz until after year 5, he has to go!
 
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