Originally posted by mbe 34:
I haven't seen anything lately and there are so still so many open books
Clery Violations - Seems many schools are in violation -though Ped State is the only one covering up child molesters. Whoever has the ultimate authority in enforcing this act has a history of dragging its feet - but this is getting ridiculous.
Outright a cover up now that even some PSU Trustees and Erickson wanted to know what happen to that aspect of the University that was not obeying the laws and compliance until 2012. The Press is being told that the Education Investigation ended with 1200 Page Report that is so large it requires way more time to respond too???
Others say, some Penn State Grads that were lawmakers and are married to Appeal Judge and some Congressmen have held it up and the Education Department has gone along with it. Yet, no Newspaper Reporter has looked into either, but Louie Freeh will use it to defend himself against lawsuits but that is years away.
Still others say, DOJ will use it in their Title IX Investigation Report but even the New AG to replace Holder is still being approved and this will be her big thing if approved but against all the Universities not just Penn State.
One last thing I am told is that the PAOAG will use it in the Criminal Trials as a motive for the cover ups, but those trials are farther off as Appeals continue?
Right now, as predicted most of the Children Victims Civil Lawsuits would be settled and I still predict so will be the remaining 3 for now.
The NCAA made a grave error insisting on keeping all the $60 million from PSU Fine and I was right on that one from the start, and they had to settle too at great expense to their reputations on their misjudgments. I still think the Paterno Lawsuits will be settled too and McQueary too.
I stated, due to interlocutory appeal (or interim appeal), The Criminal Trials will be delayed for years and the longer the better for the Defendants!
But most importantly, My very first comments were that everyone in the Power Structures of Pennsylvania wants this to go away ASAP and and that is more true today than yesterday.
Trial of Spanier Schultz and Curley - last I saw the judge said the trial would proceed as defense motions were denied.
Judge Hoover's rulings are on Appeal right now. Under these cases you are allow to Appeal every decision of the Trial Court Judges before the Trial and that can take years. I said from the onset here, that the Penn State Three Defense Teams are outstanding and they continue to show it.
Lawsuits - McQueary whistleblower suit, victims who didn't take the settlement, Insurance company saying Ped State wasn't covered. etc etc
Same with all, as Judges are making calls slowly on Discovery and what is allow and not allow, as well, as if the cases can go forward. No one under the Green Dome, would be upset if this all went away and the sooner the better as far as they are concern.
I don't know if anyone is tracking the cost to Ped State for the "Paturdo Era".
Anyway one cuts it, The Paterno Era brought in millions as they spent some of those millions in Revenues he helped bring to Penn State to be fair. At the same time, Paterno's Family and his wife Family also benefited big time with great jobs and pensions still accumulating from Commonwealth and for jobs Paterno made sure they got hired at Penn State and some still working there?
Moreover, to be even more fair, Paterno was only paid around $500,000 a year and his Assistants even less than what is Coach Franklin and Staff is being paid in the millions with a bigger million buyout. The same for the New President, AD, and others that are paid much higher and Spanier, Schultz, and Curley were actually paid lower than most colleges their size.
Paterno's Salary was augmented by Shoe Contracts by Nike whose CEO is a PSU Grad. Whether that has been reduced by Nike is not known maybe someone lese knows? It was part of the problem earlier discussed on how much the Penn State Brand has taken a hit on Property Rights for their Hats, Shirts, Coats etc etc. I know I was able to buy Penn State Hats just last year for $1.25 for many Penn State Friends while all other College Hates were on sale for $8.00 at Walgreens. They are starting to wear their Penn State Gear again, but they told me they get some stares but not much vocal disdain like when the Scandal broke.
Yet, Franklin hiring has already exceeded expectations and far exceeded Paterno & Staff Recruiting as far as Quality, Caliber, and Stars, than Paterno ever recruited in Pennsylvania and the region. Now they will watch if Franklin & Staff can exceed the coaching and wins Paterno was known for prior to joining the Big Ten?
They still are divided between some that are upset the Penn State Scandal ever happen, to time to move on, to wanting to know all the truth like why Second Mile and DPW never charged, to fewer it never happen and the university is the victim, and others don't care about the university anymore? This kind of Public Relations cost is hard to value, but it has been very costly and not turning around as fast as they expected either?
This also includes way more Compensation for the New President, AD, and other Staffers Employees at Penn State and the Big Ten is still not giving them back their Bowl Money Share that has been given and pledged Youth Organization and Child Protection Agencies. The Big Ten did pay for the Team expenses for the Pinstripe Bowl but no equal bowl money share.
PSU is still not selling out all their games or season ticket sells either, but they still attract 100,000+ at games, so it is coming back un der Franklin's Recruiting Excitement. They have to pay back loans for their Athletics too.
Yet, it is harder to add up all the costs still coming in on legal, public relations, and consultant fees and these costs are going to continue for years. There are three Victims still not settled and heading towards a Civil Trial as well and if they do get a verdict, it can be anything since punitive damages will be considered and those are not in Centre County.
I find it amusing and it may be worth noting when the price hits $409 million. An astronomical figure but very reachable. 60 million settlements (so far) 60million NCAA fines Lost Bowl revenues Lost Big 10 revenues
Cost of Freeh Report Attorney costs Assorted consultants misc related costs I'm guessing we're somewhere in the mid $300million?
It will approach if not exceed over $500 Million soon just from 2010 to today and not including all those hidden costs of the reforms. In the end, it will exceed over Billions when it is all added up and all the Reforms continue to be part of process that had to make sure Penn State is in compliance with all alws all the time now, unlike Paterno Era?
Few understand all the changes that had to be implemented that Spanier, Paterno, Schultz, and Curley were ignoring and the Trustees did not know about or kept from them or were part of not obeying all the Rules, Law, and regulations by way of the "Penn State Way"?
Additionally, this does not include the Costs to the Commonwealth Taxpayers for the Investigations, Judicial Rulings, Grand Juries, and Prosecutions? Governors and Senate Legal Costs & Staff & Outside Counsel on Lawsuits they filed to protect that "Success With Honor" Motto?
Furthermore, There is even greater costs to Penn State on Clery & Title IX Act New Ethics & Compliance Office, Athletic Integrity Agreement Officer & Staffs Oversight, NCAA Monitor Oversight, Administrators, Faculty, Coaches, and Employees Yearly Multiple Compliance, Monitoring and Training, as well as Contributors Criminal Background Checks before accepting their money, and every Student Orientation Training before Enrollment that requires Students taking a few hours on how to know the regulations and laws, and report crimes. Talk about the "Grand Experiment" Costs and don't expect the Legislature to cut Penn State Education Allotment that much?
There is still a dispute among what Penn State will pay for and what their Insurance Companies will pay for and Penn State Insurance is still covering all costs for Spanier, Curley, and Schultz's Defense?
Also, there are a few Reporters and Victims Lawyers Investigators and Freeh Investigators looking into some Penn State former politicians working with Pennsylvania Judges involved in PornGate and maybe used Undue Influence on some of these issues.
It was not just 1 or 2 Judges and a few Corbett, Kelly and Ryan PAOAG Employees, but that far more than many know. It is all being played out over the Open Record Appointment, Kane Grand Jury Leaks allegations, and New Supreme Court changes and elections coming as well. If that breaks it will only get worse but we will get more of the full truth and I have supported that kind of transparency too.
In any event, this is the biggest University in the Commonwealth and it has cost Pennsylvania huge amounts of money to date all from a Penn State Graduate, Player, Coach, Employee and Annuitant, that was awarded Professor Emeritus by other Penn State Employees and Graduates that were not in compliance with many laws and regulations and had no Athletic Integrity Agreement, Officer, Ethical Compliance Office and Athletes Code of Conduct and treated differently than regular students that ahd to be corrected at greater costs for years to come.
But they got the Paterno's Vacated Wins Back and that is more important to a few from that CULTure that still think the Children weer lying and greedy? Yet, to be fair there are far more the Penn State Silent Majority that just want to know the full truth and care about making sure it does and why I support Pitt reaching out playing Penn State every year now.
I still admire and respect both schools and I want Pitt to play the best to beat the best, and that goes for WVU too. Penn State is in full compliance and model for many colleges to follow now on that aspect of laws and regulations that is now the focus of DOJ Civil Rights Title IX Investigations but it only happen after great cost to Penn State, Commonwealth, and Children Victim's Nightmares.
These costs cannot be measured by just money paid out to date, but the leftovers of winning more important than doing the right thing at the right time, and confusion that happen on what to do, once they thought Sandusky's retirement would remove the problem and then whe it all came out, nothing could be ignored anymore?.
All in know is Penn State is far better off and far better university without Paterno than it was with him, and any reasonable, intelligent, and Penn State Fan and Alumnus can thank Joe for building a great program and was without a doubt a great coach to be fair, but as in the Alma Mater Song, some Penn State Graduates and Employees have "Brought Shame To State's Name and that is Stain that will never go away, no matter hat happens in the Criminal Trials or Civil Lawsuits.
Anyone can blame others, but this is a total Penn State Scandal of, by, and at Penn State and it happen on Paterno's watch even if one wants to believed Sandusky duped him and other?
If one wants to argue culpability including their Penn State Employees and Trustees, that is fine and why Lawyers are in America to defend, advocate, and choose to seek out other alternatives, but it is still tragedy for the Commonwealth and it happen at Penn State!
Finally, I wish nothing like ever happens again at any university but more importantly never happens to children that were selected for sexual abuse for personal pleasure that promoted Penn State football, and then was covered up or intentionally ignored, in the misjudgment of some in charge of making sure all alws, compliances, and regulations were suppose to be implemented to prevent such crimes and Penn State University was not until 2012????
This is what upsets the Best and Brightest of Penn State Alumni, Employees, and Fans and they want to full truth too, keep that mind, when judging Penn State.
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