TheWerewolfFromTwilight said:

For sure. They also have calculus requirements, but I think that's more of a transfer hindrance than an incoming recruit thing. Nonetheless, it's a lot higher relative to their baseline than what Narduzzi is doing relative to our baseline.

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Sean Miller Fan said:

Clinched 1st CFP. It wasnt easy. He had to convince his squad to get off the bus 11 times against girls teams. There were several games where the team initially refused to get off the bus, but the great motivator that he is, he was able to overcome adversity and get them to agree to get off the bus. They did and the rest is history. 11-1. 1 win over a team guaranteed to finish with a winning record. Home game in the CFP.1G 174,000 and a white out vs some jobber like Arizona State I'm sure. Then Boise State in the next round on their way to the semis. What a friggin joke. Their SOS may get weaker in the CFP.

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steelcurtain55. said:

I never said offensive players can't be developed. I said the hit rate is higher for defensive players. I don't think you'll find many coaches who would disagree with that notion. You might ask "why?" It's probably due to offensive football is akin to a combination of skill moreso then defense is. And, no I'm not saying defensive guys aren't skilled. What I'm saying is if you run 4.4 and can't catch a ball, you still might have a chance to play some defense. If you aren't skilled enough to play RB but you run fast and have some size, you might be able to play some LB. You're undersized but you can get off the ball, you probably have a better chance to play DL then OL. You aren't too bright to handle an offensive playbook, well maybe you can handle a defensive one.

Most coaches realize there is more flexibility on the defensive side of the ball for a variety of reasons.

Narduzzi doesn't produce or recruit enough offensive talent? I think most would agree that it's a recruiting thing moreso then a developmental thing.

Trey Lance, Carson Wentz? These are 1AA guys. How was Trey "developed?" He unlike the majority of NDSU QB's played right away and played well. Carson didn't play until later in his career. If you follow my posts on here, I've written a bunch on NDSU. If you want to see development - study what they do on the OL.

Penix was a 4 star coming out of HS. He was the 14th rated QB coming out of the class with offers from Oregon, FSU, Tennessee, etc.

Tyreeke Hill was a 4 star with offers from Alabama, etc..

Outside of Mahomes, the rest of the guys were not playing P5 football. I'm not sure it's the apples to apples comparison you think it is.

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recruitsreadtheseboards said:

in the last decade. He was a good back in college. Not great. He will be a good back in the NFL. Not great.

Look at Miles Sanders. Barkley was all hype.

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Chairman Moe said:

If we can all agree that College sports (and I'll focus on football for the sake of this board) is now "all about the Benjamins", is the NCAA at a tipping point to either

a) pay the players [as opposed to NIL deals] and maybe establish a spending "cap" so that all P4 programs can compete on a mostly level playing field?

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b) continue to allow programs to run rampant with their boosters without any control or consequences?

For those who followed the recent flip (our DB recruit and LSU's QB recruit) of highly touted players to Michigan, of course $ matters. Probably the biggest reason for Pitt.

But if a program like Michigan can outspend LSU you then got to wonder if it's the money or the coach? I'd think the Wolverines and Tigers would each have unlimited assets to make sure a 5 star prospect stays committed. Did that QB not want to play for Brian Kelly, maybe?

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Joe the Panther Fan said:

If Stanford hangs on and wins (they are up 2-1 in the 66th) there will be seven ACC teams in the Sweet 16.

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noelr said:

when

when is our next game?

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forbesfield said:

Academically LSU and Michigan are apples and oranges. NFL-wise, they are equal. Football-wise, they are equal, at best, since Michigan at least is the defending champs. Networking, in the professional non-athletic world, there is no comparison.

I think that us, here, would say that all other things being equal, we'd send our kid to Michigan over LSU. And not think twice.

If the money is what they say it is, then really there is no decision to be made.

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Vader_Storm said:

The 2008 team is still the biggest what if. That team lost Cook to a torn ACL. We were 11-0 and just beat Duke when Cook went down. We lost Fields the next game for a huge chunk of the season to a broken foot. Fields came back and we still beat 3 top 25 teams in a row to win the Big East Tournament Championship and get a 4 seed.

Im not a fan of what ifs but. We lost zero games at full strength in 2008. Let me repeat, we lost Zero games in 2008 at full strength.

I also think the 2004 team is incredibly underrated.

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