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Please decline a bowl invitation

TheWerewolfFromTwilight
steelcurtain55. said:
My point is offensive guys are rarely developed at the rate that defensive guys are. Most of our hits on offense are guys who were highly rated coming out of HS. Those guys carry a higher price tag - you disagree? The majority of our defensive studs were not prolific recruits coming out of HS. Hence, they had a lower price tag. Prior to NIL, "price tag" meant blue blood offers.

2-3 star defensive players - off the top of my head.

DL -
Donald
Clancy
Romeus
Sheard
Mick Williams
Jones
Mustakas
Weaver
Tywman

LB
Blades
McKillop
Session
Hayes
Dennis

DB
Revis
Lay
Walker
Jackson
Pinnock
Mathis
Decicco




But, lets also take a deeper dive on some of those guys you listed and how they got to PITT. Do you think Boyd and Johnson come to PITT if not for PSU's scandal? Do you think Shady McCoy even sniffs PITT if he doesn't have a catastrophic ankle injury in HS which causes him to go to Milford and then has a falling out with Michael Robinson and JoePa?
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West Virginia built a juggernaut recruiting low-rated offensive players.

Pitt has had plenty of offensive talent that didn't have ridiculously high offers.

So, yes - I am telling you it's possible to assemble a very good offense if your coach knows what he is doing on that side of the ball. Kansas, Indiana, Duke, Wake Forest, Purdue... we've seen some pretty unremarkable programs have some good offenses.
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Pitt is what Pitt is

NCPitt
PittPharm2002 said:
You never called pitt woke ?
You never cited that is why you don’t donate?
You also never proudly said you don’t donate to athletics
You proudly don’t buy season tickets to any sports ?’

You are a known hypocrite and liar - I will always call that out!
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You claim I made the following statement:

"You don’t care ."

"You call pitt “woke” and hate pitt athletics"

I have never said that I didn't care. Nor have I ever said that I hate Pitt athletics. In fact, I have only said the opposite about both. I care about Pitt and its athletics. Why else would I be here for decades?
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Bell and Marrion candidates for Charlotte HC?

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Slick Manager of Champs said:
could be, but I also think Jurkovec rushed back from that hand injury at BC and never was truly recovered here.

I thought Jurkovec was the most can't miss prospect in the area for probably the past decade. There was a blurb in the PG a few weeks ago about his WPIAL playoff game where he was something like 18 of 20 for 300 yards passing, plus an additional 100 yards rushing. One of the best all-time playoff efforts. I guess the combination of things occurred to derail his career. Going to the QB graveyard at ND under Kelly certainly didn't help his advancement.
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He CHOOSE to go to a school that produced no successful NFL qb’s in a gimmick offense. And he he was so sure he was right. I don’t feel bad for none of these overhyped guys leaving the region and getting humbled after they act like their too good for Pitt
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The Narduzzi Contract

TheWerewolfFromTwilight
Joe the Panther Fan said:
Some people would rather go 7-5 every year, because Stability!, than hire a guy who in, say, his fourth season wins a conference championship and maybe wins a playoff game, but then Ohio State has an opening and that guy leaves you to take that job.

It's the same sort of thing that always has some people wanting to hire a "Pitt man" for the job. Because they assume that the "Pitt man" won't leave you for someone else. But really, who cares? We are not at the top echelon of college sports (except for maybe volleyball and men's soccer). The goal should be to hire a coach who ends up being so good that the top programs in the country WANT that guy to be their coach instead of yours.

The notion that stability should be in any way, shape or form a goal of a Pitt coaching hire is bonkers.
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I think there are certain grads who take the Pitt brand way too personally. When a coach leaves their school, they feel like a guy whose wife just left him.

For all we hear about that 2010-2012 coaching carousel business, the program never really suffered all that much because of it. We were a 6-6ish team all the while; there was no massive bottoming out, which contradicts the scathing warning some describe it as.
Also, like Stallings, no one ever said you have to make a poor hire(s) after parting ways with a coach.

I agree that we should want a coach who succeeds enough to be a hot commodity. Elevate our brand and then we can hope to find someone else to sustain that. There are very few programs that *aren't* stepping stones. Hell, Notre Dame's coach bolted.
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A coach that gets it

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It’s unsustainable. It will change when it messes up these players before they get to the pros so they will have to change it. NIL will ruin the pro game too and then at some point regular schools will just say no and let the schools in the middle of nowhere overspend to win. Eventually revenue will drop because the product is worse. Mediocrity is here to stay in college only they wont know it until 5 years from now
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Please decline a bowl invitation

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TheWerewolfFromTwilight said:
You're also just making things up about the offense/defense thing. It's always been that way? Larry Fitzgerald, Tyler Boyd, James Conner, Jeff Otah, Jonathan Baldwin, Shady McCoy, Kenny Pickett, Jordan Addison, Dion Lewis, etc.... not to mention the 4/5-star guys who didn't quite pan out to that ranking: Picciotti, Shell, D. Johnson, Dickerson, multiple QBs, etc. Let's not act like it's impossible to acquire offensive talent.
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My point is offensive guys are rarely developed at the rate that defensive guys are. Most of our hits on offense are guys who were highly rated coming out of HS. Those guys carry a higher price tag - you disagree? The majority of our defensive studs were not prolific recruits coming out of HS. Hence, they had a lower price tag. Prior to NIL, "price tag" meant blue blood offers.

2-3 star defensive players - off the top of my head.

DL -
Donald
Clancy
Romeus
Sheard
Mick Williams
Jones
Mustakas
Weaver
Tywman

LB
Blades
McKillop
Session
Hayes
Dennis

DB
Revis
Lay
Walker
Jackson
Pinnock
Mathis
Decicco




But, lets also take a deeper dive on some of those guys you listed and how they got to PITT. Do you think Boyd and Johnson come to PITT if not for PSU's scandal? Do you think Shady McCoy even sniffs PITT if he doesn't have a catastrophic ankle injury in HS which causes him to go to Milford and then has a falling out with Michael Robinson and JoePa?
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