Guessing that real attendance number might not hit 20k. Hope I am wrong, but this is the worst I’ve seen it.
Start cheating, pay players, fake grades, cover up crimes, beat Penn State 51-6 and the place will be full. And we'll all be happy! Who here will admit that if we where top 10 and 10-0 but you knew we where dirty as dog crap, you'd be on here complaining about it trying to end it? Anyone?Guessing that real attendance number might not hit 20k. Hope I am wrong, but this is the worst I’ve seen it.
Herbstreit was on GameDay ripping Texas and how far they have fallen, he said to the level of Pitt------Pitt.
just sad .
Not good to get crushed at home on Primetime.
Still wouldn’t fill the stadium. It’s about culture not a game here or there. Pitt needs a coach to come in and build a football culture.Start cheating, pay players, fake grades, cover up crimes, beat Penn State 51-6 and the place will be full. And we'll all be happy! Who here will admit that if we where top 10 and 10-0 but you knew we where dirty as dog crap, you'd be on here complaining about it trying to end it? Anyone?
LOL - There is no coach on this planet that would fill a 68k seat on a regular basis at Pitt. Nobody.Still wouldn’t fill the stadium. It’s about culture not a game here or there. Pitt needs a coach to come in and build a football culture.
It's all true. But we spent all week patiently telling you why Pitt won't do it.Start cheating, pay players, fake grades, cover up crimes, beat Penn State 51-6 and the place will be full. And we'll all be happy! Who here will admit that if we where top 10 and 10-0 but you knew we where dirty as dog crap, you'd be on here complaining about it trying to end it? Anyone?
Guessing that real attendance number might not hit 20k. Hope I am wrong, but this is the worst I’ve seen it.
It’s what I expected for GaTech. I had fun when the sun wasn’t crushing my face.
I’d say about 35k were there for the game.
Herbstreit was on GameDay ripping Texas and how far they have fallen, he said to the level of Pitt------Pitt.
just sad .
Not good to get crushed at home on Primetime.
Might be the emptiest I’ve ever seen it for a game.
34k announced,it was better than what I expected.
I used to go to all the games in the early 2000s in my late 20s ....... Heinz Field is just not a college stadium.
Pitt Stadum to me in the 80s was weird cause I was 8 and I have hazy memories.
Pitt needs fixed, they need people to care.
LOL - There is no coach on this planet that would fill a 68k seat on a regular basis at Pitt. Nobody.[/
Saban?
Pitt has to pretty much start over. Despite the history it doesn’t work. Is it because they play off campus? No local pride and everyone is a Penn State fan now? It is sad. Times have changed and there is a lot more competition for people’s time and money. it’s too bad PSU didn’t get the death penalty. I used to live in Pitt but live in the south now. We love college football. The NE is all NFLStart cheating, pay players, fake grades, cover up crimes, beat Penn State 51-6 and the place will be full. And we'll all be happy! Who here will admit that if we where top 10 and 10-0 but you knew we where dirty as dog crap, you'd be on here complaining about it trying to end it? Anyone?
Joe, you took my original post out of context. I said “from the pictures that I saw...” They were taken before the game. I saw the wide shots during the game and it looked like more had filled in since then.That isn't even close to being true.
Pitt does need to start over , in fact every year they get another chance to start over . The Fb program is a problem they can't fix in a single yr unless the Tide start wearing the blue and gold . It probably would take 10 yrs of playing excellant Fb to build any fan momentum for a program so long mired in ineptness .
I know the PSU game is only one game , but that one game cost them any kid wavering between the two schools in the state of Pa for another yr . Honestly ask yourself if you were a 4 or 5* kid and it came down to Pitt or PSU where are you going ? Would you rather play before 109,000 or 25,000 ? Would you rather play conference games against OSU and Michagin or Ga Tech and Wake Forest ? Do you want to go to a meaningful bowl game or the I Don' t Care Bowl every now and then ? The recruits have gotten over PSUs issues and their are larger more revired institutions who have covered up far more .
Until Pitt can compete with PSU , OSU or ND in recruiting how can they ever field a team that the fans will support ?Great coaching is their only chance , but not when they have zero chance of holding on to any assitants who excels (Canada ) and will only hire unproven coordinators w/o any HC exp .
For Pitt to change it's culture they need to empty the vault and go out and hire a great coach . They need to double someone's salary with a 10 yr contract and bring in the best assitants in the country ......it's not going to happen , winning Fb games isn't that important to them .
Pitt does need to start over , in fact every year they get another chance to start over . The Fb program is a problem they can't fix in a single yr unless the Tide start wearing the blue and gold . It probably would take 10 yrs of playing excellant Fb to build any fan momentum for a program so long mired in ineptness .
I know the PSU game is only one game , but that one game cost them any kid wavering between the two schools in the state of Pa for another yr . Honestly ask yourself if you were a 4 or 5* kid and it came down to Pitt or PSU where are you going ? Would you rather play before 109,000 or 25,000 ? Would you rather play conference games against OSU and Michagin or Ga Tech and Wake Forest ? Do you want to go to a meaningful bowl game or the I Don' t Care Bowl every now and then ? The recruits have gotten over PSUs issues and their are larger more revired institutions who have covered up far more .
Until Pitt can compete with PSU , OSU or ND in recruiting how can they ever field a team that the fans will support ?Great coaching is their only chance , but not when they have zero chance of holding on to any assitants who excels (Canada ) and will only hire unproven coordinators w/o any HC exp .
For Pitt to change it's culture they need to empty the vault and go out and hire a great coach . They need to double someone's salary with a 10 yr contract and bring in the best assitants in the country ......it's not going to happen , winning Fb games isn't that important to them .
2.) playing in front of 30k vs 109k is FAR down the list when recruits pick schools
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No, it isn't.
You are a pitt fan , congrats.I agree. The game day atmosphere absolutely blows at Heinz Field. I can’t help but think that there has to be a bit of a left down when the team comes charging out of the tunnel and sees at least 55,000 empty seats EVERY week. Outside of the Penn State game, there are never more than 15,000 people in their seats with the team hits the field. It’s disgusting how apathetic the fan base is. And there are so many factors that contribute to it, it doesn’t matter. I’m to the point where I just say F it, I’m going, and I’m done worrying about attendance, perception, whatever. Start winning games, and see what happens. And a spoiler; they aren’t ever going to average more than 50,000 or so. It is what it is. Pitt will always be the fourth team in this town, possibly even the fifth behind Penn State. It sucks, but it’s reality. If the scandal didn’t change it what the hell else would?
Now that Pitt will be offering a journalism major, maybe we can have some pro-Pitt media in this town in the next several years.
Then the recruits and their handlers are fools, because the trend is lower attendance. Money is driven by the tv contracts, and that's because more and more the viewers are watching on Tv or streaming video.No, it isn't.
How many high school kids or college coaches have you interacted with over the past 10 years?
I can tell you flat out that coaches on the DW staff knew it wasn’t as high as fans thought it was and were able to recruit around it with things that matter like PT, NFL pipeline, Oakland experience, player to coach relationship etc. I can tell you that i’ve had that conversation with Junko and Gattusso.
Then the recruits and their handlers are fools, because the trend is lower attendance. Money is driven by the tv contracts, and that's because more and more the viewers are watching on Tv or streaming video.
It's clear the majority of great prospects don't give a squat of academics (other than guarantees of having the inconvenience of academics taken care of, like at UNC) so i won't insult anyone suggesting they should care about ours. But if they still rate attendance higher than the coach, conference, playing opportunity, NFL prep, amenities, etc. ... things players DO normally worry about...maybe it really can't be fixed for us then.