I think that’s terrible when teams with losing records are playing. Totally classless. And what about the Military-affiliated bowls and the first responder bowl?
I feel bad for those kids.
I feel bad for those kids.
9-2 Army Left Out of Bowl Game
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It's all about money. How many eyeballs will tune in for Army? WVU and Tennessee have big fanbases.
There are a lot of people connected to Army that would tune in. You act as though they are Akron. Nobody cares about two mediocre teams playing in a bowl except their own diehard fans.
How many people are there associated with the Army, serving or veterans? More than the alumni base of UT???
People would watch army. They went 9-2. They are a good program.
Gonna be crowded around that one TV in Sam Drucker's store.
People only watch Army when they play Navy. Somehow the 9-2 isn't as impressive when you look at the FCS heavy schedule. Their best wins were Air Force and Navy and they lost to Tulane.
They also gave Cincinnati a hell of a game as they were just down a TD until Cincy scored late in the 4th qtr. They also beat 6-3 Georgia Southern. At the end of the day they are still more deserving than many other crap teams who are playing.
It is interesting that they are not in the top 25 at 9-2 ... of course, one of those 2 losses was to Cincinnati, and ranking Army would have helped Cincinnati causes, and the playoff committee obviously didn't want that to happen.
bowls have contracts in place with the conferences. they can't break those contracts. army chose to be independent. this is what you get.
Also took them all afternoon to put away The Citadel. They have four wins against FCS schools. They're not more deserving.
Nothing helps Cincy's cause. G5 teams aren't going to play in the CFP. Army wasn't ranked because they played a horrible schedule.
Bowls are meaningless, according to some on here, but all the justifications come out on why a 9-2 team doesn’t deserve a bid, a service academy, and a 2-win team should??? Ok, got it/sarc
Army played 3 FCS schools. Take away the FCS games and Army is still 6-2. Oregon made the final CFP top 25 with a 4-2 record. Oregon only played one ranked opponent, but yet they're headed to the Fiesta Bowl. I get that Oregon beat its ranked opponent and Army lost to its one ranked opponent, but still, Army's season is pretty solid.
6-2 looks worse in a season when so many schools couldn't play a full schedule and being "solid" for a G5 independent isn't going to turn the heads of bowl committees.
Look, outside of a few fans, very few people care what Army does. South Carolina got a bowl because a lot of SC fans will watch just to be mad and there are a lot of SC fans, relatively speaking. Not even going to get into how a bowl might pander to a conference for an affiliation over this.
some of you guys need to stop thinking of SEC schools as anything more than organizations with a license to print money due to their football team. no rules, laws, or morals will stop their core function.
Not as absurd as arguing that bowls mean so much that this is some sort of slight against humanity.
Ok so who has the power houses TENNESSEE .S CAROLINA BEAT 2-8 & 3-7 Id be embarrassed if I were them....OH I FORGOT $$$$$ SORRY
it is disgraceful that Army was not offered a bowl spot. Just disgraceful
Using the Sagarin ratings as a guide, had Pitt played Army's schedule we'd have been favored to go 10-1, losing only to Cincinnati. We would have been two touchdown or more favorites in 8 of those games. We would have been favored in games by 25, 34, 37, 38 and 40.
They played one good team. They played five teams that didn't even have a pulse. They lost two games. You have got to stretch the term "solid" a long way to include what Army did this year as "solid".
You act as though we didn’t lose any games in which we were two touchdown favorites. 9-2 is a good record and I don’t see any purpose in trying to minimize their case for a bowl.
I guess I just generally don't care all that much who makes a bowl and who doesn't, other than us.
But I'll say this, and it's absolutely true. If Pitt played Army's schedule and went 9-2 people would not be happy at all. And they would have every right to feel that way. Context matters. They essentially played three games all season, and went 1-2.
West Virginia needs a new opponent for the Liberty bowl. How about Parkersburg High School
At that point, they might as well move the game to Wheeling Island and dub it the Casino Bowl!
I don't care who they played, 9-2 overall and 6-2 against FBS is solid. Sure, it's not spectacular. Yeah, it would have been disappointing for Pitt, or PSU or Ohio State to only win 9 games with that schedule, but we are not talking a program with the resources of a P5 school. It's a service academy and it's a solid season.
ND was selected over A&M because they are a better team. I've seen both many times this year and ND is just better. The fact that they bring in more money is a feather in their cap though.
Are they a D1A football team or aren't they? If they don't want to be judged like a D1A team there are other places for them to play.
But I mean hey, I agree if you are going to play the Middle Tennessee State you might as well beat them. And Louisiana-Monroe. And Abilene Christian. And The Citadel. And UT-San Antonio. And Mercer. And Georgia Southern. But should they really expect some sort of kudos for doing so?
It’s pretty close, saw one oddsmaker that said he would make A&M a 1 point favorite over ND if they met next week. I would open it at pick em myself.
I don't know if ND is better or not, but I know that ND's resume is better, and there isn't really any doubt about that.
They are an independent. The fact that they were able to even schedule 11 games this season is amazing. Georgia Southern is 6-3 so that is a good win.
Actually Georgia Southern is 7-5. Current Sagarin rating, 90. The notion that beating a team as bad as Georgia Southern at home is a good win is silly. If they were in the ACC they'd be battling it out with Syracuse and Duke to see who was the worst team in the conference.
