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There are no others unless you are a nameless blogger on awful announcing for something quoting Jim Miller who said he doesn't even know.
You are speaking of opinions. Everybody is a journalist on the internet. Let's wait and see what ESPN decides to do and what they announce. For me, Sling has been a game changer. All of my content is delivered online through my televisions and all of my devices. I get more channels now than I ever did through DirecTV for less than half the cost. All the ESPNs, Pac-10, ACC, SEC, many other sports Networks. Who knows, maybe espn will buy out sling, or create a competing online delivery system. Either way, the ACC is solid and sound, and the content will be delivered to the masses no matter what the vehicle.
ACC Network: Dream, or pipe dream?
Published Thursday, May. 4, 2017, 10:34 am
Is an actual ACC Network ever going to happen? It’s a fair question in light of last week’s industry-shaking layoffs at ESPN.
A May 3 memo from ACC Commissioner John Swofford to the ACC Council of Presidents obtained by the David Glenn Show and published on Twitter seems to answer the question in the affirmative, if only from the vantagepoint of Swofford.
But is that “total confirmation” from Swofford worth the paper it’s printed on?
We’re talking 2019, two years down the road, a veritable eternity in TV broadcasting, given the pace of developments in this day and age.
The aforementioned ESPN layoffs came out of left field in some respects, and in some respects, they were very much inevitable, if not the harbinger of much more to come.
The budgeting realities at ESPN have changed dramatically in just the past couple of years, with cord-cutting severely impacting the flow of dollars into the coffers of the Worldwide Leader, and the enormous rights fees that ESPN execs negotiated with the NBA, NFL and MLB sending money out by the truckload.
Which is to say, it ain’t 2013, when ESPN announced its plans to roll out a new SEC Network, anymore. The SEC Network came about after ESPN had passed on the chance to build the Big Ten Network that eventually went to Fox and launched in 2007.
As an answer, the SEC Network looked great on paper: you get SEC football, which has ruled the roost at the top of FBS football going back at least the past decade, and the diehards in the Deep South would tell you, “forever,” with SEC hoops, baseball and Olympic sports like gymnastics as filler.
Problems: CBS shares rights to SEC football, meaning you don’t even have all the big games for the network. Then, you know, even if you did have exclusive rights, would you put the good stuff on the network, in the way that, say, ESPN did back in the early days of ESPN2, when it put a Duke-UNC basketball game on the Deuce to force the hand of cable operators to make the network more broadly available?
That gambit worked back then, sure, but it’s risky, just as sure.
Which gets to the question of, If I’m an SEC fan, do I need the SEC Network, and then the deeper question, If I’m not sure I even need the SEC Network, what am I paying for, exactly?
Now apply those same questions to the idea of an ACC Network. What am I getting there that I don’t get already? What incentive does ESPN have, for example, to move Duke-UNC to the ACC Network? Yeah, none. So we get Boston College-Clemson on a Tuesday night in January on the ACC Network instead of ESPN3. Great.
That’s it, the value of an ACC Network, right there: second- and third-tier conference and non-conference matchups in hoops and football, the entirety of baseball and the Olympic sports, and ACC-specific studio shows.
Pleasing to the diehards, without question. But this is where the rubber hits the road here. ESPN isn’t going out of its way to create things like the SEC Network and Longhorn Network (all University of Texas, all the time) and this idea of an ACC Network just to please us diehards.
The obvious goal for ESPN here is to create additional networks with content that fans have to have and thus have to demand access to from their cable and satellite providers to whom those fans will then pay additional monies to be able to access.
In 2007, when Fox launched the Big Ten Network, in 2011, when ESPN launched the Longhorn Network, in 2013, when ESPN launched the SEC Network, it seemed that going this route was the future of college sports.
And it may very well be the future of college sports, but as with so much else about the future, more is unknown than can possibly be known right now.
The ESPN layoffs that we all know about now tell us that the bottom-line health of the Mothership isn’t what it used to be, by a long shot, and being brutally honest, it’s not like cutting a relative few staffers loose is going to account in and of itself for the decline in subscribers and the increase in commitments to rights fees.
I don’t have any doubt that ESPN President John Skipper is committed at this time to moving forward with the previously-announced plans for an ACC Network to launch in 2019.
What the business model for ESPN looks like in 2019 is something that we can’t be too sure of right now, unfortunately.
Column by Chris Graham
Source??
Cant believe you're taking the Source comment seriously!
Since you started posting to the free Lair message board you continually ask almost every poster for sources???
This isn't a discovery hearing or court proceeding its a message board and some of the posted information "is in my opinion", based on knowledge of posters, educated guesses, etc mixed in with some hard facts which some posters are really good at providing. That's what a message board is!
Some of the best threads that I've read are those started off by a poster throwing something at the wall to see if it sticks!
Go PITT!
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ACC Network: Dream, or pipe dream?
Published Thursday, May. 4, 2017, 10:34 am
Is an actual ACC Network ever going to happen? It’s a fair question in light of last week’s industry-shaking layoffs at ESPN.
A May 3 memo from ACC Commissioner John Swofford to the ACC Council of Presidents obtained by the David Glenn Show and published on Twitter seems to answer the question in the affirmative, if only from the vantagepoint of Swofford.
But is that “total confirmation” from Swofford worth the paper it’s printed on?
We’re talking 2019, two years down the road, a veritable eternity in TV broadcasting, given the pace of developments in this day and age.
The aforementioned ESPN layoffs came out of left field in some respects, and in some respects, they were very much inevitable, if not the harbinger of much more to come.
The budgeting realities at ESPN have changed dramatically in just the past couple of years, with cord-cutting severely impacting the flow of dollars into the coffers of the Worldwide Leader, and the enormous rights fees that ESPN execs negotiated with the NBA, NFL and MLB sending money out by the truckload.
Which is to say, it ain’t 2013, when ESPN announced its plans to roll out a new SEC Network, anymore. The SEC Network came about after ESPN had passed on the chance to build the Big Ten Network that eventually went to Fox and launched in 2007.
As an answer, the SEC Network looked great on paper: you get SEC football, which has ruled the roost at the top of FBS football going back at least the past decade, and the diehards in the Deep South would tell you, “forever,” with SEC hoops, baseball and Olympic sports like gymnastics as filler.
Problems: CBS shares rights to SEC football, meaning you don’t even have all the big games for the network. Then, you know, even if you did have exclusive rights, would you put the good stuff on the network, in the way that, say, ESPN did back in the early days of ESPN2, when it put a Duke-UNC basketball game on the Deuce to force the hand of cable operators to make the network more broadly available?
That gambit worked back then, sure, but it’s risky, just as sure.
Which gets to the question of, If I’m an SEC fan, do I need the SEC Network, and then the deeper question, If I’m not sure I even need the SEC Network, what am I paying for, exactly?
Now apply those same questions to the idea of an ACC Network. What am I getting there that I don’t get already? What incentive does ESPN have, for example, to move Duke-UNC to the ACC Network? Yeah, none. So we get Boston College-Clemson on a Tuesday night in January on the ACC Network instead of ESPN3. Great.
That’s it, the value of an ACC Network, right there: second- and third-tier conference and non-conference matchups in hoops and football, the entirety of baseball and the Olympic sports, and ACC-specific studio shows.
Pleasing to the diehards, without question. But this is where the rubber hits the road here. ESPN isn’t going out of its way to create things like the SEC Network and Longhorn Network (all University of Texas, all the time) and this idea of an ACC Network just to please us diehards.
The obvious goal for ESPN here is to create additional networks with content that fans have to have and thus have to demand access to from their cable and satellite providers to whom those fans will then pay additional monies to be able to access.
In 2007, when Fox launched the Big Ten Network, in 2011, when ESPN launched the Longhorn Network, in 2013, when ESPN launched the SEC Network, it seemed that going this route was the future of college sports.
And it may very well be the future of college sports, but as with so much else about the future, more is unknown than can possibly be known right now.
The ESPN layoffs that we all know about now tell us that the bottom-line health of the Mothership isn’t what it used to be, by a long shot, and being brutally honest, it’s not like cutting a relative few staffers loose is going to account in and of itself for the decline in subscribers and the increase in commitments to rights fees.
I don’t have any doubt that ESPN President John Skipper is committed at this time to moving forward with the previously-announced plans for an ACC Network to launch in 2019.
What the business model for ESPN looks like in 2019 is something that we can’t be too sure of right now, unfortunately.
Column by Chris Graham
Another columnist with an opinion vs people actually with details and inside knowledge. Its' the internet, let's go with the people with no knowledge!
zuckerberg wants to stream content into my contact lenses? That crafty SOB.. I could cut my grass and watch Pitt football at the same damn time? Actually, he could put it in my safety glasses and I could weed wack and watch pitt play unc.
So we get rid of tvs and the family just sits in the living room with their own glasses, watching their choice of streaming content? Could you imagine walking in on this, seeing a family just sitting there,all quiet, wearing futuristic glasses? that would be creepy..
Call me crazy but im not seeing TVs going anywhere. My grade school teacher told me in the late 80's, paper money wont exist in 10 years, it will all be digital.. Fast forward 30 years, you cant walk 20 steps without running into an ATM machine..
Yep, creepy from today's vantage point. Then again, if someone told you five years ago that pedestrians downtown would be walking zombie like looking at some 5" gadget, oblivious to the world around them, "creepy" (and "incredible") would no doubt be a reasonable reaction then. We will see.
SVP is on his knees alright and it shows the more he cries about Pitt and the ACC and Penn State second rate to the BIG TWO! He is just upset that Pitt Win against Clemson was a complete Game all 4 Quarter Win!
While Franklin's biggest Win on a Late Blocked Kick and then blowing the Leads in USC Game and then lost to Pitt never having the Lead all game long!
SVP also hates that Curley & Schultz told the truth about Paterno not wanting to report Sandusky and died in Hindsight praying he wish did more, while keeping silent, just like he did on Ref Guman cheating for his Son's team!!
Come to think about I stand Corrected, maybe SVP is not on his Knees, just standing up and Chicken Little was Little as most of SVP Posts!
www.dailypress.com/sports/teel...-cuts-post.html
Teel article on acc network and swofford. Like he says at the end all the naysayers need to stop doubting swofford
Teel article on acc network and swofford. Like he says at the end all the naysayers need to stop doubting swofford
What is a complete game all 4 Q win? Was the Ohio State Penn State game only 2 quarters or am I missing something?
SVPanther is a moron. ESPNU will become ACCN. No reason to go back and forth with an ignorant clown. Clueless
Quick Answer....it was just a 1 Quarter Win in last 4 minutes other than that pretty boring all game long. Even worse, Penn State Students show low character again by rioting and damaging State College again. Pitt Students celebrating like adults knowing a big win that was even better than Penn State over Ohio State was just a game not life and death?
Go watch both games again, see OSU up and PSU comes back on 2 ST Plays in the second half like most of their games in 2016 was not the same exciting game all 4 Quarters did you miss the OSU first half? PSU was a terrific Second Half Team of but in OSU Game only 1 Quarter play and made by Special Teams Turnovers. PSU did win 4th Quarters against Minnesota, Indiana, and Wisky, blown away by Michigan and only lost to USC & PITT by Late Interceptions!
Ohio State @ Penn State White Out!
OSU At PSU....is also a big difference you are missing plus Clemson destroyed OSU too. Also, ACC Dominated CFB in 2016 and Big Ten ended up being the Big Pretend so competition was lesser and beat up on many Big Pretend Four beat up Big Ten Five Bottom Feeders!!!
PITT @ Clemson Death Valley!
The Pitt-Clemson Game was exciting from start to finish from 1st Quarter to last Play. Pitt At Clemson all 4 Quarters compared to OSU at PSU boring 3 quarters?The ACC went on to win most of their Bowl Games and Winning Record against SEC & Big Pretend and won 2 CFB Playoff Invites & NCS! Eyes Wide Open Now Or Still Shut?
OHIO STATE AT PENN STATE
1 Q 0-0 (Boring)
2 Q 12-7* *(Last Minute Lucky Catch))
HALF 12-7
3 Q 9-0 (Boring)
4 Q 0-17* Block FG (Good Comeback 4 Minutes Left)
GAME 24-21 @PSU Not Invited To Playoff OSU CFB NCS Invite!
PITT AT CLEMSON
1 Q 14-14 (Pitt Takes Lead Clemson Responds)
2 Q 13-14 (Close & Exciting Again Pitt Missed Point & TD Taken Away)
HALF 27-28
3 Q 7-14 (Clemson Takes Lead By 8)
4-Q 9-0 (Pitt Wins By Last Minute)
GAME 43-42 @Clemson #1 NCS Beats OSU In CFB NCS Invite 31-0)
Have Eyes Sight or Still Blight Eyes?
There are articles on how Inefficient the PSU Offense was in 2016, go learn about them. You can compare them with dim eyesight! Maybe you see better! The Nittany Lions should be way better playing all 4 Quarters in my view in 2017. Pitt will have many questions.
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Pitt doesn't have a single sports related program, other than athletic training. It blows my mind that a University within 10 minutes of pro hockey, baseball, football, and soccer teams has no programs such as sports management or anything else. A single class (sports management) was just added last year as a random class to take. This spring was the first semester a sports marketing class was offered. I don't understand how there's ZERO focus on sports at this university when we have one of the best situations in the entire collegiate system nationwide. I have to pursue a masters degree that has nothing to do with my sports interest because I opted to stay at Pitt and further enhance my connections. A group of students had to take it upon themselves to create a club, the Sports Business Association, because Pitt doesn't provide any opportunities for growth in this field.
You do realize He follows ESPN by his Twitter!
So he got that going for him.... which is nice.
Sports Business is a microniche industry. I dont believe Pitt should waste resources on an industry this small.
Of course you don't. That's why you're not in charge!
I'm not saying his postings are right, but the "people with knowledge" others are sourcing have an extremely vested interest in reporting a linear ACCN is definitely happening, so they are not going to say anything, at all, to the contrary until the day it wouldn't launch that way.
If you haven't seen yet, Swofford is EXTREMELY tight lipped until he knows for sure something is happening. If he is saying it, I'm pretty confident it is going to happen.
As for everyone else, just wouldn't comment on it IMO.
And every school is announcement massive studio upgrades if you need tangible proof.
Wrong! Ever hear of Sports Medicine or broadcasting for starters? I could literally go on all night trying to expand your mind on what sports influences are all over the economy but I don't want to waste my time arguing over your how inaccurate your perspective truly is. Somewhere in the middle of the night I would introduce, after many other things, GNC, Pharm/Medical Device companies. Somewhere toward the end when I got tired I would tell you I could have played for the Steelers if I caught a break and things went right at Pitt.
Sports business management and media is a growing field. My background is accounting, finance and risk management and I know many who have gone into Sports Accounting and Finance working for MSG Corp and other businesses like it.
Our sons friend took Sports Business Management at an unnamed U and is now working for a Sports Management Co ( agents for athletes) making a lot of money, we know others in the sports management, and sports media field since my wife is a sports writer/media which is growing.
Pro sports teams, summer and winter resorts, sport management cos ( agents for athletes), USGA, USTA, and others are looking for properly trained, educated, and competent people to fill their business needs.
IMO a Sports Management /Media Major would be a step forward for PITT.
I remember watching the second game that Saturday and thought, no announcers?? I've since watched a few more that way.It's better than nothing I guess..
Sports Medicine is much larger than Sports Business. You need medical professionals to care for sports-related injuries for ALL people from kids to senior citizens. You don't need sports professionals to manage a kids league as those are mostly volunteers.
Sports Business majors would be like offering an Entertainment Business major. There probably are some places that do but its a very small field with very very few good paying jobs that don't go to ex-pro athletes.
In a major pro city like Pittsburgh, how many good-paying sports business jobs are out there, not including entry-level sales jobs for the young kids starting out.
Are there 200? In an entire city? And how many of those are basically reserved for ex-pro athletes?
Don't patronize me son. I know what sports medicine is and all that you covered. You made a joke statement so I laughed at your expense. So do all broadcaster majors find jobs in Syracuse? Do all broadcast jobs include a mike or make up room? You doubled down on a lame point.
He is right, though. "Sports business" is a very niche market and the vast majority are very low level and low paying jobs without someone getting a law degree.
Sports business isn't restricted just to professional teams, which require people at all levels of the sport. It isn't even just restricted to sports teams. It could include government parks and recreation programs, sports facilities management and marketing, equipment and apparel companies, and similar types of things.
Forbes had Pittsburgh listed as having 5,660 sports-related jobs in 2014 (which was a 56% increase over 2010).
I don't know what the current outlook is.
Yeah, I am aware and almost all of those areas have few high paying jobs where a "sports business" degree is even remotely more sought after than a business or finance or marketing degree. Most of those niches are about getting in shit jobs (not just your usual low level entry) and working your way up, unless you know someone.
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