Amazing start for a team with "Majors 2 Talent"!!
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Pitt is better than UNC. Flip one bad decision by Eli and it’s 41-17. It was a game that was closer due to a few mistakes.
Time will tell with those other two. But we had our way with them when we had to.
I completely misread this thread title. I thought it said major 2 talent meaning we are at the sec/b10 level talent
It seems like the MO for the past few years has neen fir the D to quickly gel at around mid season and be pretty good down the stretch. If that happens, this team could easily find itself in the top 15 and maybe in the ACC championship game. The schedule is perfect for us. They just need to keep plugging away.
Interesting take. Based on this theory would the winning be attributed to luck, coaching, law of averages, a conspiracy tied to the presidential election to keep PA voters happy .. what is the root of this success?
You seem to be making a static analysis of a dynamic situation. IMHO, Pitt is a better now than it was when it played Cincinnati and West Virginia . I believe Pitt is improving faster than those teams because of having more youth playing who are gaining game experience plus a 1st year starting QB who is continuing to improve with the added game experience.
This. Pitt has improved for sure on offense and getting Fitz back and the young D getting experience has helped as well. No team is static
Hard to say how much better Pitt is than Wvu or Cinci. Its irrelevant. Pitt beat them both and that’s all that counts
You may be right but WVU may mess around and make the CFP by winning a historically weak Big 12.
"Majors 2" QB's like Matt Lytle, Sean Fitzgerald, and John Ryan were pretty terrible. Contrast to Eli Holstein and this explains a lot of it.
Also our schedule is easier than our Big East one was then (oddly enough), maybe because we also decided to play Notre Dame (always wise tbf), Texas, and Ohio State for some reason on top of in-conference Miami in their glory years. We have a lot of 50/50 games left probably but no one with the sort of talent of the Ohio State teams that would embarrass us for years back then.
We're better coached too. Like our staff wants to win and aren't mailing it in
Also our schedule is easier than our Big East one was then (oddly enough), maybe because we also decided to play Notre Dame (always wise tbf), Texas, and Ohio State for some reason on top of in-conference Miami in their glory years. We have a lot of 50/50 games left probably but no one with the sort of talent of the Ohio State teams that would embarrass us for years back then.
We're better coached too. Like our staff wants to win and aren't mailing it in
I’m always amazed that Lytle managed to make an NFL roster and even to throw a TD. I know those were bad Pitt teams, but you think even a fringe pro would have had a little more success in college.
Yeah don't know if Pitt is better than Cincy or WVU despite, you know, beating them, and not in flukey ways either
Luck.
We needed all-time miracles to beat Cincy and WVU. We arent better than those teams. Those are 50/50 games at best where we were outplayed and found a way to win. Same with a very pedestrian Cal team. We should are very lucky to be 7-4 and not 4-7. The good news is that we do have better talent than Majors 2.....but not significantly better. This is probably the least talented team SINCE Majors 2. Narduzzi has major major issues as most of his roster isnt P4 material.
Hyperbole as usual.
This team has some good young talent on the defensive side of the ball. They are just really young & thrown to the fire probably a little sooner than they should.
And yes, this team is P4 material. It's not what they need if they want to compete at a very high level, but its not totally void of talent. If it was, they wouldn’t have 7 wins.
They have beaten
- A very bad FCS team (4-8)
- arguably the worst FBS team of all-time (0-11)
- UNC was a legit win over an average P4 team
- WVU, Cal, Cincy, and Syr were luck/flukes. We did beat Syracuse by a good margin but 3 1st Half pick 6's was as much luck as anything.
We are EXTREMELY lucky to be 7-4. We scheduled well for one. A really good FCS team could beat us, but probably not. A good G5 team could have beaten us but we got Kent St. Cincy and WVU are down and they required miracles.
You are what your record says you are. Pitt found a way to win those games so that's neither here nor there.
Only you could somehow fit a 41-13 game in a category of luck/flukes.
So close wins don't count, close losses count, and annihilating an 8-3 team is luck.
I was an undergrad during Majors 2. This Isn’t remotely close. Duzz needs a strong associate head coach and for Bell to get better at calling a game and countering to defensive adjustments. But overall the program is much more steady under him. I would prefer Duz and Bell learn and get better than clean house at this point. Mainly because yes we could hit on a young hire and find a diamond in the rough. But we could also miss like we did when we Dixon left and be in the wilderness for half a decade.
