Another accolade for city of Pittsburgh!

[GT74]

Listed as #4 place to visit in world, behind New Zealand, Canada, and Finland by Harper's Bazarre. #1 in US. For those outsiders who demean the city, this is just another accolade by publishers. It seems that any organization that undertakes the task of rating cities lists Pittsburgh at the top or near it.

 

[HailtoPitt]

So they are comparing the City of Pittsburgh to entire nations like Canada and New Zealand? Brilliant.

That's like having a list of top cities in the world, and having the city of Stuttgart Germany ranked alongside the United States.

 

[Dr. von Yinzer]

I assumed that the OP was just generalizing and that the magazine had chosen cities within the countries he named but he had failed to do so.

I expected to find it and read names like Christchurch, New Zealand, Vancouver, Canada, Helsinki, Finland, etc.

However, nope. Somewhat bizarrely, Pittsburgh really is compared to entire nations in that piece.

Here it is:
http://www.harpersbazaar.com/culture/travel-dining/g8354/travel-destinations-2017/

 

[9nationalchampionships]

Nice to be noticed but comparing us to countries seems crazy.

The Allegheny looks clean and fresh.....I think I would like to take a dip! Yikes

 

[UPitt '89]

Listed as #4 city to visit in world, behind New Zealand, Canada, and Finland by Harper's Bazarre. #1 in US. For those outsiders who demean the city, this is just another accolade by publishers. It seems that any organization that undertakes the task of rating cities lists Pittsburgh at the top or near it.

and we see the self-loathing yinzers already showing up in this thread.

We live in a jewel of a city, and thank God out of state recruits have the perspective to see it.

No wonder local recruits think the grass is greener elsewhere, since so many dimwitted yinzers preach it constantly.

 

[recruitsreadtheseboards]

Except to local HS football players rated 4 stars or higher.

 

[vegasgreed]

haven't you heard.....its still early in the recruiting process.

Except to local HS football players rated 4 stars or higher.

 

[OH Pete]

Pittsburghers are alternately self aggrandizing and self loathing. Strange, but that is one of the many charms of Pittsburgh. I get homesick every year during the NFL playoffs. And I only live an hour and 40 minutes away.

 

[goalieman]

I assumed that the OP was just generalizing and that the magazine had chosen cities within the countries he named but he had failed to do so.

I expected to find it and read names like Christchurch, New Zealand, Vancouver, Canada, Helsinki, Finland, etc.

However, nope. Somewhat bizarrely, Pittsburgh really is compared to entire nations in that piece.

Here it is:
http://www.harpersbazaar.com/culture/travel-dining/g8354/travel-destinations-2017/

Maybe they have heard of "Steeler Nation" !

 

[Piranha]

Yinzer Nation!

 

[HailtoPitt]

and we see the self-loathing yinzers already showing up in this thread.

We live in a jewel of a city, and thank God out of state recruits have the perspective to see it.

No wonder local recruits think the grass is greener elsewhere, since so many dimwitted yinzers preach it constantly.

What are you talking about? It was mentioned that comparing Pittsburgh to entire countries is not very logical.

 

[UPitt '89]

What are you talking about? It was mentioned that comparing Pittsburgh to entire countries is not very logical.

Harper's Bazaar is a US publication, directed at US citizens as their primary audience. In suggesting places that their audience should want to visit... it would be illogical to say "The United States", since they are already there. That is why the listing is a bunch of countries mixed with locales within the United States.

But that's besides my point.... it is interesting that you think my comment was directed at you. It wasn't. It is directed at the SLY's (self-loathing yinzers) that constantly talk down the city, the University, the fan base, and the facilities..... all while reading comments from those outside the city who are ENVIOUS and impressed by what we've got.

A sizeable number of Pittsburghers are self-loathing... and the percentage among Pitt fans is even greater.

 

[KennyTheKangaroo]

with fans like these, who needs rivals?

 

[NTOP]

I assumed that the OP was just generalizing and that the magazine had chosen cities within the countries he named but he had failed to do so.

I expected to find it and read names like Christchurch, New Zealand, Vancouver, Canada, Helsinki, Finland, etc.

However, nope. Somewhat bizarrely, Pittsburgh really is compared to entire nations in that piece.

Here it is:
http://www.harpersbazaar.com/culture/travel-dining/g8354/travel-destinations-2017/

Nahh...it was a list of places to visit.

 

[HailtoPitt]

Harper's Bazaar is a US publication, directed at US citizens as their primary audience. In suggesting places that their audience should want to visit... it would be illogical to say "The United States", since they are already there. That is why the listing is a bunch of countries mixed with locales within the United States.

But that's besides my point.... it is interesting that you think my comment was directed at you. It wasn't. It is directed at the SLY's (self-loathing yinzers) that constantly talk down the city, the University, the fan base, and the facilities..... all while reading comments from those outside the city who are ENVIOUS and impressed by what we've got.

A sizeable number of Pittsburghers are self-loathing... and the percentage among Pitt fans is even greater.

I don't agree. It's nuts to compare Pittsburgh (or any other city) to the entire country of Canada as a place to visit.

 

[Dr. von Yinzer]

I've never been to Finland but I hope to visit Scandinavia one day. That's probably at the top of my bucket list right now.

I have traveled through Canada a bunch (most of my college roommates were Canadian) and I've been to New Zealand as well.

Kiwi's are among the strangest people I've ever met (Utahans too - no joke) but it's a beautiful small country.

As for Canada, advising people to "visit Canada" is just such bizarre advice. That really is like telling people to "visit America."

The Great White North is just so vast and so diverse culturally, that it's impossible to put it into one little bottle like you could some of these other countries.

A trip to Montreal is nothing at all like a trip to Toronto. A trip to either place is nothing at all like a trip to Alberta or one of the prairie provinces. Calgary and Edmonton or each in Alberta and they aren't anything alike – kind of like Pittsburgh and Philadelphia in Pennsylvania.

Vancouver is my favorite city in Canada and probably my favorite city in North America. However, it should not be lumped in with a trip to Halifax, Nova Scotia. Man though, British Columbia, holy cow what a place!

It's just a very weird list. I'm not too worked up over it and it is always great to see Pittsburgh mentioned in such a positive light. However, it's really a goofy list if you think about it rationally for a moment.

 

[goalieman]

I've never been to Finland but I hope to visit Scandinavia one day. That's probably at the top of my bucket list right now.

I have traveled through Canada a bunch (most of my college roommates were Canadian) and I've been to New Zealand as well.

Kiwi's are among the strangest people I've ever met (Utahans too - no joke) but it's a beautiful small country.

As for Canada, advising people to "visit Canada" is just such bizarre advice. That really is like telling people to "visit America."

The Great White North is just so vast and so diverse culturally, that it's impossible to put it into one little bottle like you could some of these other countries.

A trip to Montreal is nothing at all like a trip to Toronto. A trip to either place is nothing at all like a trip to Alberta or one of the prairie provinces. Calgary and Edmonton or each in Alberta and they aren't anything alike – kind of like Pittsburgh and Philadelphia in Pennsylvania.

Vancouver is my favorite city in Canada and probably my favorite city in North America. However, it should not be lumped in with a trip to Halifax, Nova Scotia.

It's just a very weird list.

Maybe the magazine should be called "Harper's Bizarre"

 

[Dr. von Yinzer]

Incidentally, if you're into cruises, a few years ago we took a cruise from Boston up around Nova Scotia and down the St. Lawrence Seaway all the way into Montreal through Quebec City.

That was really cool.

Do it in the summer – definitely do it in the summer. However, I really enjoyed that and would highly recommend it to anyone.

I would like to make it back to Quebec City. They have an old town area that seemed amazing – Very European feeling – but we were not able to spend any real time there. That's my biggest regret from that entire trip.

We have little ones now so it's harder to travel but when they get a little bit older, financial and physical health permitting, we are making a drive back up to visit QC. What a spectacular place!

I would love to see them get an NHL team again just to have an excuse to drive up there for a game. I don't know what I was expecting, but it really knocked my socks off.

 

[GT74]

Some of you guys are over-analyzing. Listen, it doesn't matter if it is countries, cities, small towns, or parts of towns, it is the fact that Pittsburgh again is recognized by a publication. Some of these organizations may be more credible, thorough, or whatever, but Pittsburgh makes it. Take it for what it is worth.

 

[HailtoPitt]

I would like to make it back to Quebec City. They have an old town area that seemed amazing – Very European feeling – but we were not able to spend any real time there. That's my biggest regret from that entire trip.

I think you are fine with the limited time already spent in Quebec. I read Harper's Bazaar and all that is required for Quebec City is an hour or two. Then a couple hours for Montreal. A couple hours for Toronto. A couple hours for Niagara Falls. A couple hours each for Vancouver, Winnipeg, Calgary, etc. Visiting a city in any country is equivalent to visiting the Warhol Museum. A couple hours and you've seen all there is to see. I'm considering going to India for vacation next year. I have about one week and should be able to visit the entire country.

 

[HailtoPitt]

Some of you guys are over-analyzing. Listen, it doesn't matter if it is countries, cities, small towns, or parts of towns, it is the fact that Pittsburgh again is recognized by a publication. Some of these organizations may be more credible, thorough, or whatever, but Pittsburgh makes it. Take it for what it is worth.

I agree, we are over analyzing. However, they could have easily focused on cities because encouraging people to visit an entire country to kind of irresponsible.

 

[Dr. von Yinzer]

Yeah, really strange.

I will say this much, not enough Pittsburghers visit Toronto and that's a shame because its such an easy drive. It's basically akin to driving to Buffalo and then simply add an hour and a half.

You are talking about a world-class city and it is so close and just such a neat place.

Personally, I prefer Toronto to both Chicago and New York. To be honest, I greatly prefer it to those places. I think my wife likes Chicago a little more but I have never warmed to the "Windy City" like so many others have. I think North Chicago is cool but I don't really get all the hype? The Miracle Mile and Rush Street and the Navy Pier – whatever.

Incredibly overrated, IMO. I do like Chicagoans though. They remind me a little of Pittsburghers.

I have never been to a Cubs game but I hope to remedy that soon. I have been to a White Sox game and we got lost coming out of the stadium – because we were being idiots – and I've never felt less safe in my life.

Toronto is enormous and extremely diverse. It is such an interesting place and there is so much to do there. We have typically stayed near the University of Toronto and that is such a cool area of town.

And the best part is, it's probably about the same distance from Pittsburgh as Philadelphia and there is no comparison whatsoever between those cities.

People should go there if you haven't already done so. It is well worth both your time and money.

 

[NTOP]

I think you are fine with the limited time already spent in Quebec. I read Harper's Bazaar and all that is required for Quebec City is an hour or two. Then a couple hours for Montreal. A couple hours for Toronto. A couple hours for Niagara Falls. A couple hours each for Vancouver, Winnipeg, Calgary, etc. Visiting a city in any country is equivalent to visiting the Warhol Museum. A couple hours and you've seen all there is to see. I'm considering going to India for vacation next year. I have about one week and should be able to visit the entire country.

Uhhhhhhh....it'll take you a LOT longer than a week....if you just visit big cities, maybe a week. My daughter spent about 4 days there, said she'd need a month.

 

[Dr. von Yinzer]

I think that was his point.

 

[HailtoPitt]

Uhhhhhhh....it'll take you a LOT longer than a week....if you just visit big cities, maybe a week. My daughter spent about 4 days there, said she'd need a month.

Don't worry. I'm a Harper's Bazaar reader. I could probably do Inida in 3 days actually.

 

[TheNoise88]

Local recruits aren't leaving because they don't like our city, or fall in love with scintillating places like South Bend IN or State College PA or Morgantown WV.

There's tremendous negativity within the region, caused by nearly 40 years (and counting) of disappointment, other than a couple BE basketball seasons of noterrible.

Pitt can only reverse this by investing adequately to take a major step up in either or both major sports (football would better since WPA is football-mad, but basketball is likely more realistic). The occasional 8 wins among a slew of 6-6 seasons (often with tragi-comic losses along the way), and squeaking into the bottom of the NCAA tourney in March only to get repeatedly chased out in the first weekend, are not enough.

Pitt has had decent success for sure at times, and in places like the middle of PA or states with no pro sports (that don't suck, anyway), no doubt we'd fare better in perception. But here, major college sports are seen on the same level as pro sports, whether naivitists or deluders refuse to accept this. Pitt is compared to the Steelers in fall (not to mention WVU, Ohio State, ND, PSU) and to the Penguins in winter as far as success. Those programs are all much more committed to winning, and results have shown such. So, reversing negativity in WPA will take championship runs. It may not be the "mission" of the university, but if it wants sports to augment (rather than denigrate) the university profile and coffers, it needs more commitment up front. But be assured that with success, locals will beat our door down, and that includes local recruits too.

 

[GT74]

Yes, it is a shame, but the success of the Steelers, Pens, and Pirates (lately), has taken away much appreciation of Pitt and its symbiosis with the city. Pitt is a great academic university, and with its namesake UPMC, has done so much medically to contribute to one's health and wellness. Pitt does need to get to the next level of success in athletics in order to join in with the positive aura of the pro teams. Maybe Narduzzi and staff will do that soon in football with a few more blue-chippers and a few extra wins.

 

[TheNoise88]

Yes, it is a shame, but the success of the Steelers, Pens, and Pirates (lately), has taken away much appreciation of Pitt and its symbiosis with the city. Pitt is a great academic university, and with its namesake UPMC, has done so much medically to contribute to one's health and wellness. Pitt does need to get to the next level of success in athletics in order to join in with the positive aura of the pro teams. Maybe Narduzzi and staff will do that soon in football with a few more blue-chippers and a few extra wins.

Yes. I typically say Pitt is largely responsible for its fate but one area where they were unfortunate victims was the mid- late 70s. Had the Streelers remained the largely laughingstock team they'd been in the late 60s, Pitt would have been embraced in ecstacy by the region for winning the NC, and that extra oomph might have been the difference in the immediate years after when we came oh so close to 2 or 3 more. That in turn would have helped solidify as an true elite program...then leading to av reversal of the misfortunes of the 90s. For example, I could see Pitt getting the Big ten bid PSU eventually got.