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Can someone tell me why Capel shouldn't be fired

The real question is... Where does Lyke look for the next coach?

Jared Grasso. Much like I said about Hurley, I believe Grasso would be a superstar in this town. Ideally you’d like to get a coach with a bit more of a resume at the mid/high major level, but Grasso is an absolute rising star in the coaching profession and worth whatever risk is involved.
 
You know those are completely unrelated things, right?

I meant Pitt fans are so excited about volleyball that basketball doesn't matter as much anymore. 10K every night at volleyball games. National TV every game. Rabid internet following/support. Pitt fans just cant get enough of women's volleyball basketball being downgraded just doesn't matter to them so Lyke shouldn't be as responsible for basketball.
 
Jared Grasso. Much like I said about Hurley, I believe Grasso would be a superstar in this town. Ideally you’d like to get a coach with a bit more of a resume at the mid/high major level, but Grasso is an absolute rising star in the coaching profession and worth whatever risk is involved.
He’s really good, but some baggage there. I prefer Odom who has been a head coach longer, turned around 1 program, is coaching at a higher level, has experience recruiting ACC country and wants to burn down every ACC program for passing over him.
 
Good luck getting him. He's not a mid-major guy. The MWC is a high major league.
Seems like he'd have better options if he has a good season. If Pitt wants him, they'd have to hope he goes like 18-13 this year.
He would 100 percent take the Pitt job, has been eyeing the Pitt job, and would take it for 2 million so you don’t have to overpay. As always, you don’t know what you’re speaking about.
 
He would 100 percent take the Pitt job, has been eyeing the Pitt job, and would take it for 2 million so you don’t have to overpay. As always, you don’t know what you’re speaking about.

If you are correct, which you rarely are, that would be outstanding. I like him and he isnt a mid-major so he gets my approval
 
Jared Grasso. Much like I said about Hurley, I believe Grasso would be a superstar in this town. Ideally you’d like to get a coach with a bit more of a resume at the mid/high major level, but Grasso is an absolute rising star in the coaching profession and worth whatever risk is involved.

It's worth a shot. But we all know Lyke isn't going to get rid of Capel any time soon. We're stuck with this loser for now.
 
He’s really good, but some baggage there. I prefer Odom who has been a head coach longer, turned around 1 program, is coaching at a higher level, has experience recruiting ACC country and wants to burn down every ACC program for passing over him.

Can’t go wrong with either guy. Miles better than a high major retread, which I hope they avoid all together this time around. Get a coach on the way up and take the risk that he may leave for a bigger job one day rather than making a safe choice
 
If you are correct, which you rarely are, that would be outstanding. I like him and he isnt a mid-major so he gets my approval
This isn’t 2nd hand here say. From the horse’s mouth he wants to be in the ACC, would take the Pitt job, and want would go scorched earth on the ACC (especially Wake).
 
Imma try to actually answer the question. Do I think his time here should be over? Sure.

But a reason not to fire him?

Would not just be the money — but the money PLUS the real concern that the next guy won’t be any better.

Our old formula can’t work anymore. Guys aren’t staying 4 or 5 years then playing men against boys. Need to able to constantly lure talent, and that just isn’t happening with a program in the dumps.

The only way to flip that script would be an elite hire. A known commodity, or lightening in a bottle with a guy that would be that guy someday. The chances of hitting on that? Probably not high. So that’s why time on the buyout is being milked.
 
Pitt got incredibly lucky twice , they hired Ben Who from Northern Arizona and after an incredible turnaround and a failed national search they reluctantly hired his unknown assistant and hit the the power-ball .

The only bb coach Pitt ever hired that was the man to get at the time was Paul Evans ( only because he had the Admiral ) Let’s. It kid ourselves its not going to happen now . ( They had the Golden Panthers and a roster to kill for .)

Let’s not forget that Heather’s search was going really badly and she was turning over every stone when she came upon JC , no one wanted the job and she had to overpay just to get him .

No one with viable options is taking this job , Pitt will be burdened with the buyout money and an empty Pete , they need to roll the dice and find someone similar Ben H or JD who no one knowns and get lucky .

Whomever they hire needs Pitt to become a major player in the NIL .
 
This isn’t 2nd hand here say. From the horse’s mouth he wants to be in the ACC, would take the Pitt job, and want would go scorched earth on the ACC (especially Wake).

It would make perfect sense that he wants in the ACC, not debating that. I just dont see Pitt landing a highly sought after high major coach when there will be better jobs, maybe even better ACC jobs open. NC State will probably be opening. There will be others.
 
Odom is interested and was last year. Would need a great staff though

Edit would like a coach line Odom who has a chip on his shoulder.
 
We can throw out the excuse now that players want to play for teams with consistency in their coaching role. Players now jump year to year and we're lucky if we have a guy on our roster for longer than 2 years. Go out and hire the best coach you can. If he doesn't work out, pay him to leave and hire another one. And don't let it take 5+ years to figure that out like we're doing now! The players don't have any loyalties. Neither should the school or the coach. The days of a Boeheim or Coach K hanging around for decades are long gone. A long tenure for a coach now is 4 years.
 
I meant Pitt fans are so excited about volleyball that basketball doesn't matter as much anymore. 10K every night at volleyball games. National TV every game. Rabid internet following/support. Pitt fans just cant get enough of women's volleyball basketball being downgraded just doesn't matter to them so Lyke shouldn't be as responsible for basketball.
Is there a point or are you just swinging wildly at strawmen?
 
We can throw out the excuse now that players want to play for teams with consistency in their coaching role. Players now jump year to year and we're lucky if we have a guy on our roster for longer than 2 years. Go out and hire the best coach you can. If he doesn't work out, pay him to leave and hire another one. And don't let it take 5+ years to figure that out like we're doing now! The players don't have any loyalties. Neither should the school or the coach. The days of a Boeheim or Coach K hanging around for decades are long gone. A long tenure for a coach now is 4 years.
There are exceptions I’m sure but by and large players want to play at the highest levels possible and they want to win. Pitt has and has had a bunch of guys that are in over their heads. Until that changes these lousy teams will continue. I just don’t see any path where Capel is capable of changing anything to any appreciable degree.
 
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I think Odom not only would be the best hire for all of the reasons listed herein, but I think it would energize the fan base (at least this board). He has a good team this year at USU so my worry is he has a great year and someone like NC State swoops in and beats Pitt out like they always do.

I would also submit Jeff Linder at Wyoming. I love the team he has put together after inheriting a dumpster fire. He is missing one of his star players, Graham Ike, but that is a dangerous team. Ike and Hunter Maldonado could have gone to any blue blood had they gone in the portal and he kept them in Laramie. Pretty impressive.

Also, if Todd Golden was good enough for Florida then Kyle Smith ought to be good enough for Pitt. He needs a good year at Wazzu.
 
It would make perfect sense that he wants in the ACC, not debating that. I just dont see Pitt landing a highly sought after high major coach when there will be better jobs, maybe even better ACC jobs open. NC State will probably be opening. There will be others.
NC State will not open this year. He will do enough to keep his job unless he decides to take a job like Marshall (which would be a possibility) to buy him a new contract.

I’ve sat in Odom’s office. I have his phone number in my contacts. I’ve TALKED TO HIM about the Pitt job. He wants it. I literally am giving you the answers to the test here bud
 
NC State will not open this year. He will do enough to keep his job unless he decides to take a job like Marshall (which would be a possibility) to buy him a new contract.

I’ve sat in Odom’s office. I have his phone number in my contacts. I’ve TALKED TO HIM about the Pitt job. He wants it. I literally am giving you the answers to the test here bud
In this case, please pass along our regards. Would absolutely love to have him here.
 
Pitt got incredibly lucky twice , they hired Ben Who from Northern Arizona and after an incredible turnaround and a failed national search they reluctantly hired his unknown assistant and hit the the power-ball .

The only bb coach Pitt ever hired that was the man to get at the time was Paul Evans ( only because he had the Admiral ) Let’s. It kid ourselves its not going to happen now . ( They had the Golden Panthers and a roster to kill for .)

Let’s not forget that Heather’s search was going really badly and she was turning over every stone when she came upon JC , no one wanted the job and she had to overpay just to get him .

No one with viable options is taking this job , Pitt will be burdened with the buyout money and an empty Pete , they need to roll the dice and find someone similar Ben H or JD who no one knowns and get lucky .

Whomever they hire needs Pitt to become a major player in the NIL .

Yeah but the thing is... anybody would do better than this. I really mean that. You would have to actively go out of your way to do this bad, and even then you still probably couldn't pull it off. What he's doing now isn't even really possible. They're going to have to rewrite reality because of Jeff Capel's time at Pitt.
 
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NC State will not open this year. He will do enough to keep his job unless he decides to take a job like Marshall (which would be a possibility) to buy him a new contract.

I’ve sat in Odom’s office. I have his phone number in my contacts. I’ve TALKED TO HIM about the Pitt job. He wants it. I literally am giving you the answers to the test here bud

Then tell him he has my approval.
 
Yeah but the thing is... anybody would do better than this. I really mean that. You would have to actively go out of your way to do this bad, and even then you still probably couldn't pull it off. What he's doing now isn't even really possible. They're going to have to rewrite reality because of Jeff Capel's time at Pitt.
Barring some miraculous rebound he needs to gone .
 
Yeah but the thing is... anybody would do better than this. I really mean that. You would have to actively go out of your way to do this bad, and even then you still probably couldn't pull it off. What he's doing now isn't even really possible. They're going to have to rewrite reality because of Jeff Capel's time at Pitt.

Maybe that's it. Maybe Capel is actively and intensely trying to be this bad of a coach. That's the only answer I have, other than he's just plain stupid and lazy. Probably a combination of both.
 
Maybe that's it. Maybe Capel is actively and intensely trying to be this bad of a coach. That's the only answer I have, other than he's just plain stupid and lazy. Probably a combination of both.
I don’t believe he’s anything other than a guy without the answers . If he wanted to be gone I’m sure there could’ve been a mutual parting of the ways last yr . He’s the great assistant that just isn’t a good head coach .
 
Odom had one excellent year with that huge upset, but how much has he done outside of that? I like consistency.
 
This isn’t 2nd hand here say. From the horse’s mouth he wants to be in the ACC, would take the Pitt job, and want would go scorched earth on the ACC (especially Wake).
what do you think his roster would look like at Pitt? obviously you are dialed in with Odom and your AAU- Prep school circuit can you speak to what he would do?
 
He speaks well. Loves being involved in politics though he says he doesn’t care. Explains to us why kids these days have it so hard. These are reasons why he should never be fired I guess.
 
what do you think his roster would look like at Pitt? obviously you are dialed in with Odom and your AAU- Prep school circuit can you speak to what he would do?
I do not know who he’d hire, what he would do or anything like that. Just know he is very interested in what’s going on in Oakland.
 
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