You can have him. I wouldn’t take him unless to leave him on the bench in case of an injury to Fede or the twins.
Can someone tell me why Capel shouldn't be fired
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Recency bias. But obviously there was something wrong at that point. The guy from last year would fit in just fine.
Yeah we only have 3 years of data to back up the team is significantly better without him. But what does that matter
And Fede is getting better every game.
The other guys are much better this year.
So basically your point is the last two years would look similar to this year if you take John out. Entitled to that. Incorrect, but entitled to it.
1. The other guys didn’t look nearly as good early, take a guess as to why that was
2. If we’re having Hugley pick and roll, he’s not garnering attention or setting as good of screens
3. He’s been the worst defensive center in the league for 3 years. Fede is one of the best. They don’t need a scorer on the block. They need a defender rebounder.
4. Any shots or possessions where you slow it down and get it in the post take away from Burton driving, Elliott shooting, Nelly being Nelly or Nike doing stuff. Or Hinson getting a 3. They don’t need that.
This is why I never engaged in threads like this and supported Capel with 95% of my posts on this site. The guy inherited a dead program. But all you entitled babies couldn’t be patient and give the guy a couple mulligans. There’s not a lot of loyalty in sports, but if there was any at all, I wouldn’t be surprised if Capel doesn’t consider resetting his clock somewhere else. He’s smart. He knows how you people treated him. It’s a real shame too because he’s embraced this university and this city.
Kinda to your point Hugley has a career FG% of 46.5, hardly the advantage you need if you are going to dump it down every time. If he was at 60%, the advantage of an interior presence is felt. As it stands, I can have a team shoot 33% from 3 and produce more than dumping it inside to a 46.5% guy. My center just needs to do all the little thing that the twins and Fede are already doing.
Dead is right. Even Louisville still won a conference game. Comparisons were made to BC’s quick turnaround after they went winless, but they never made a tourney. Capel delivered. I didn’t expect it to occur, as in I was let’s start over again and I was wrong too. But if expectations were for NCAA in year 4, then year 5 was probably win a tourney game, which may very well happen…
You guys take things too literally. It’s an example.
Andrew Slater basically said his plan was to win and leave. Which at the time sounded ridiculous. But you would have to think that he’s planning an escape hatch somewhere now unless he gets a long term extension.
School Fede to learn some of his skills. I've said it before and got attacked. But some better post moves and Fede is better. Hugely can back him up, unless the Twins beat him out, which is possible especially if they gain some muscle.
You can admit you were wrong. I know it is the first time EVER. But you put right in your post they are bereft of talent, then you say you would have had a different prediction if you knew their best player from last year was going to be hurt. C'mon man. Get over yourself already.
Pitt has never had as many capable 3 Pt shooters on one team and thinking that not having a bull inside to take advantage of the extra space is idiotic . Look at Burtons improved play think it has nothing to do with playing alongside Hinson , Cummings , Elliot and Nike !
The coaching staff aren’t idiots and Hugley’s role would’ve have redesigned , previously he really had very little help . This team would be better with Big John .
The coaching staff aren’t idiots and Hugley’s role would’ve have redesigned , previously he really had very little help . This team would be better with Big John .
He was never their best player. I said the first time Hugley didn’t play this team was better without him. I wasn’t wrong.
Hugley takes away every single good characteristic of our guards. Burton can’t drive. Elliott wouldn’t get up shots. Nelly would have a worse person to pick and roll with.
No, it simply wouldn’t be. He doesn’t do anything that would help the team and he does plenty defensively that would hurt it
Hugley is a terrible defender. He's a liability on the defensive end. Whatever he does score on the offensive end he ends up giving up and then some on defense. For that reason alone, he would be at best a bench player on this team, and only in very late game situations when we have a large lead. Like last night.
Capel is doing this right now. He wants kids who can play with high energy and play defense. They'll find ways to score.
Capel is doing this right now. He wants kids who can play with high energy and play defense. They'll find ways to score.
And I said it last year that if he could somehow make the NIT or NCAAT, he could leave for low P5/A10. Honestly, I think he strongly considers a job like GT or lets say VCU or Saint Louis or something like that comes open. But if that happens, you would think Pitt can attract a really good candidate as Capel showed you could take a team from 0-20 to the NCAAT. Ryan Odom, Calipari, maybe a change of scenery guy like a Buzz or Kevin Keatts, someone like that
You can win a lot of games with a rim presence defend first center. Couple that with his soft hand and ability to get out in transition you’ve already got a very good player. With the addition of good weight and muscle, he’s going to be a force.
If his elevation and hands on the Elliot ally oop wasn’t enough to convince I’m not sure what else needs to be done.
Speak for yourself, I actually feel much smarter. I've just learned:
1. Pitt's success this year is due to Hugley being unavailable. Capel would have never realized Fede was better and we would have been stuck with Hugley as the starter.
2. Bballinsider far exceeds anyone else on this board in his ability to evaluate talent, including Sean Miller (I know basketball) Fan.
3. Bballinsider has some sort of relationship with Heather. I don't know if it's romantic, but watching the game together on her phone sounds rather intimate.
I hope Heather's husband doesn't find out.It depends on where he was with Heather when he was watching the game.
Then again, maybe he's Heather's husband.
Capel’s clearly a VERY bright and insightful person.
He is closely in tune with the good people he works for and with at Pitt. He will not allow anonymous message board ranters - either negative or positive - to influence his future.
If he continues to win here, will he be in demand at other places? Hell, yes. But he’s not just going to run away from here because of Tweets, posts or blogs. He’ll do what smart, talented, self-confident people do: put himself in the best spot he can for himself and his family. Financially. Relationship-wise. Potential for success-wise. It’ll be up to Pitt to provide what he’s looking for. Then for him to continue to meet and/or exceed the expectations of Pitt. These things always go both ways.
Would love to see him have a LONG run of success at Pitt, starting with what’s going on right now. Think he brings a lot of qualities and values that a school like Pitt wants in their MBBHC.
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Duke fans wanted to run Coach K out after the first couple years. Sometimes I think it might lead to a better relationship if you get off to a rocky start and get things turned around as opposed to an initial love affair that gradually fades.
It can. HCJC has to keep the trajectory going upward now. Finish this season strong. Capitalize on momentum and positivity and replace the departing guys with more talent (HS & Portal). And as we’re seeing, fit is SO important. Evaluating character to determine the best guys to recruit that have the requisite talent but also want to win as a TEAM.
The vibe now is fun. Everybody at the Pete last night was enjoying themself: players, coaches and fans. Lots of smiles. But have to avoid regressing. Things can turn around faster than ever in CBB now. EITHER way.
As it looks now, Capel is doing a very good job with the most important part of his job: Building team chemistry and confidence. At the beginning of the year, it sure didn't look that way. But the maturity level of this group of players is more than anyone expected. They play together, communicate, and have fun.
Let's just enjoy this year while we can. Next year will be a different challenge. Then we'll see if this year was just a flash in the pan or a real part of how Capel can coach. I hope it's the later.
Odd quote tweet. Odom still would take it if Capel does what Slater says Capel wants to do
Are you really that much of a jackass?? Go back in your hole. You're obviously braindead.
He was also there…It depends on where he was with Heather when he was watching the game.
Actually had a gun scare and she was ushered out early by police.
Why is anyone even bringing up posts from 3 months ago or speculating about coaches that is just that...speculation? In college basketball, 3 months is an eternity and things change very quickly. Tomorrow, it all could change....again. Let the season play out first. We have some games we have to play yet and we could win all of them or lose any number of them. Coach speculation is fruitless at this point.
Not to mention, I have been steadfast for 4 years Hugley wasn’t good enough for this level. When the information changed, the team completely changed.
But he screwed up 4 seasons. That's NOT a couple of mulligans. He's obviously no longer on the hot seat, and he'd be walking away from a fat buyout clause. He's not stupid, and knows lots of people wanted him canned...I'm one....but most have forgotten his failure in the glow of the turnaround. Coaches who step down from a really good year are crazy. Two years like this will mean Heather has to boost his deal or he might bolt. And if next year is bad, she can do what she thinks is correct.
Hopefully he has some achievement bonuses if this fun continues. And no one on this board treated him. Just blew smoke. He's not a first-time HC.
I didn't have a lot of hope for this team early. Of course, I was still going to support them: they are my team.
But this transformation has been amazing. All those parts from different places learned to be a team. The senior leadership is wonderful, and the young ones are playing their hearts out.
I'm very happy with where we are now.
But this transformation has been amazing. All those parts from different places learned to be a team. The senior leadership is wonderful, and the young ones are playing their hearts out.
I'm very happy with where we are now.
If you look at each season individually, then sure it’s more than a couple mulligans.
But I look at the X, Trey, Toney phenomenon as one mulligan because that lack of chemistry impacted more than just one season. Not easy building a roster with talent AND character coming from the depths of where we were. He had to get ACC level talent AND hope everything else fell into place. Then covid hit. He deserved more patience.
Well, technically it was only 3 bad seasons. The 1st year, 3-15 and being competitive was satisfactory. The next 3 werent good but he's even tried saying without saying that he took in some bad kids (ie Johnson/McGowens) and he needed to change his approach.
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