Find me a team with multiple 4 and 5 star players that won no conference games 2 yrs ago and 3 last yr .
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I did say I thought he could recruit better than Dixon but I hated the hire and probably posted a million times you dont let Dixon walk to hire Kevin Stallings.
Quit using our record under Stallings as an excuse. How do you explain bad programs like Illinois out recruiting us.
Now I know what @Joe the Panther Fan felt like arguing with you about Stewart. You just go in circles.
Illinois and Georgia were in the same boat as us and are out recruiting us
Totally agree. We have some quickness; unleash an aggressive press once in a while. Also, haven't seen a secondary break which a lot of teams run. If you're having trouble scoring in your half court offense, gotta be creative. Also, I still think Capel was a good hire and must be given time.
Lets not forget UConn was sh!t under Ollie after he won the Natty with Calhoun's guys. Then Hurley comes in and signs everyone. No excuses. Besides the 4 blue bloods and maybe 5-6 "near blue bloods," Pitt is on a level recruiting playing field with everyone else.
Kevin Ollie was unbelievably bad, I mean he was Stallings bad.
Watching them play night in and night out it was obvious both he and his staff literally did not know their ass from a hole in the ground.
Illinois was ranked 68th behind Pitt at 49 in 2019 . Georgia did have a large class with an elite kid from Atlanta ,but Ga does play in SEC !
I happen to believe that if your a fan of Pitt bb or Fb you need to realize that winning Bb and Fb games by paying recruits isn’t on the menu . There’s nothing that special about Pitt to just naturally attracting elite athletes and unless there’s a huge shift in the thinking of those that matter Pitt will never will be .
Pitts 2019 bb class was higher rated than Illi !
Pitts 2020 bb class is also rated higher than Illi !
Why let the facts interfere with your thinking !
Yeah JTPF is right Pitt doesn’t need anyone who can shoot the bb !
The fact that the guy who said "if I were deciding who to play I would never even consider defense" has to make stuff up about what other people have actually said shows that deep down that guy knows that he's full of it.
Right back at you , never said defense isn’t important , somehow it makes you feel good repeating this nonsense. You just don’t need five defensive standouts on the floor at one time just as you don’t need five excellent rebounders or five excellent perimeter shooters etc to have an excellent team . It would be a wonderful world if they could run out five great offensive and defensive players who are all 6’7” or taller , but this is Pitt not Duke , Kentucky ,Warriors or the Lakers . Pitt desperately needs someone other than Murphy to step up and start knocking down some outside shots consistently or they will be hard pressed to win more conference games this year than last season . I don’t care who that player is , but they need another shooter on this team or it will be a repeat of last season where opposing defenses will pack the middle and cut off the lanes for X and Trey to penetrate . WVU won that game because Pitt shot 11% from the field in the second half , was it because the WVU defense was that stifling or Pitts shooting was just that horrendous? You can quote me on this you will not win any games shooting 11% from the field .
ps ...Oh , I forgot you claimed if you hold the opposing teams to no points you can’t lose so I guess you feel that you can win by shooting 11% ! Great analysis!
Technically you didn't say it wasn't important, you said that if you were the coach you wouldn't consider defense when deciding who to play.
Of course some people might think that if you wouldn't even consider it that you clearly don't think it's all that important. But you are correct, you never actually said that it wasn't important.
Which was, of course, hyperbole in response to what I assumed was hyperbole on your part when you said that if a team doesn't score any points it can't win. I responded to your absurdity with some of my own, figuring that might be something that you could understand.
I guess not.
I hate playing the “he won with the other guys players” card, but never has it rang truer than when applied to Kevin Ollie. He was a very, very bad college basketball coach. Maybe at a much lower level it would’ve worked for a longer period of time, but he was overmatched in D1.
If you would’ve watched a lot of UConn basketball his last few years I almost guarantee you would’ve seen it the same way. They were an almost auto bet against.
You must work for CNN since you’ve become the Pitt board fake news poster .
How you play defense is an important aspect of the game , but I’ve got news for you , it’s not the only aspect of the game . A team doesn’t play its 5 best of anything , shooting , defense , rebounding etc . It’s a coaches job to figure out who to start and how they interact as a team . Putting your 5 best defensive players on the floor who lack any offensive skills only works at the end of the half or game if your on defense ! You need guys with offensive skills and a team without reliable perimeter or mid range shooters is playing short
handed .
Pitt lost to WVU because it couldn’t score and it wasn’t because of great D by WVU . This team just like last yrs team needs someone to step up and knock down the open 3 . Last season JWF couldn’t carry the load all by himself and Murphy isn’t going to be able to it do all by himself this year . They can beat bad teams playing this way , but they’re going to struggle against the better teams who have skilled offensive players . X and Trey need space and without an outside threat they will struggle and Pitt will lose .
This might be news to you , but to be a good team you need some guys with offensive skills and if they lack some defensive skills that’s what a guy like Toney is for a great defensive player with limited offensive skills .
You must hate it that there are people that remember some of the really stupid stuff you've posted and won't let you forget it, no matter how many times you wish to pretend that you didn't say what you did.
The only good thing about this is that you have at least stopped with the nonsense that you posted about how if you were the coach that you wouldn't even consider defense when deciding who to play and some of your other, similar gems. The funny thing is that you now try to say what I tried to tell you all along and that you refused to listen to, and you pretend like it was your point all along.
So I'll just say that you are welcome for the free lesson, and I'll happily give you more as time goes on. Who knows, some day you might even be able to figure out some of this on your own.
Now your a revisionist , I’ve never agreed with you on this subject and I know you believe your never wrong on anything . Find one post were I claimed defense isn’t an important factor in playing winning bb . You just keep making shit up because you’ve finally have figured out that Pitt can’t beat good teams without players with shooting skills . Your the one that needs to realize offensive abilities are just as important to winning as defense is . You don’t need five great offensive players or five great defensive players on the court at a time . It’s a team game after all . Go ahead Mr Imneverwrong find a post to support your nonsense , your anal enough to try , but you’ll fail .
Well that's interesting. I'm the person who has posted on this board, over and over, for many years now, that there are many different ways to win basketball games. I'm the person who has said, and backed it up with the actual numbers, that if a team wants to win the championship they have to be good at both offense and defense. You, on the other hand, are the person who thinks that offense is all that matters. You are the person who simply cannot wrap his head around the idea that guys who get you 18 and give up 22 aren't helping you win, simply because they put the ball into the basket. Hell, you are the guy who argued with people who told you that Parker Stewart was a bad defender. Not only did you think that he was a decent defender you felt that it didn't even matter how bad his defense was, because he could make some shots.
The fact of the matter is that I've said the same things all along. The fact of the matter is that when you made your post about not even considering defense if you were the coach that before I even got back onto the board to see and respond there were multiple other people who had already posted telling you (in so many words) that you had lost your mind.
Here is the thing that I honestly cannot figure out. You know damn well what you posted. You (appear to) now understand just how stupid some of it was. And yet you simply cannot stop yourself from bringing it up, over and over and over. I wouldn't know, but I'd imagine if I had posted something so dumb I'd just hope that everyone would forget it. But not you. You just can't let it go.
Well, either that or you honestly do believe your own nonsense. Which, come to think of it, would be even worse.
why do you insist on lying about all the things you’ve said on here in the past?
Show me a past post where I said defense is meaningless in playing winning bb . Until Pitt can play winning ball on both sides of the court they’ll will never be the team we all want them to be . To accomplish this you don’t need five great defensive or offensive players playing at the same time . I know that’s a far to difficult concept for you or JTPF to grasp .
