We can't agree. Look at for example things like Canadian health care. they run that just fine without a market. Free universities in Germany, no market. The NFL is not a free market system. All of those things are standing up to the market and not letting the market determine everything. You can argue about how successful that stuff is, but they are examples. Sure these things happen within the giant world market, but they don't let the market rule the results.
What? The market has obviously responded to those things. There are high end health car providers for the rich in those areas. There are a lack of lower to middle end providers in those areas since they have been priced out and don't want to compete. People take trips to other countries to receive health care.
You still don't understand. All of this exists within a market. It's action and reaction within the market place of health care.
I also don't understand the point of anything you just wrote as it relates to what you're advocating, but I do understand that you don't either.
You're pointing to a government run operation, as evidence that private actors should "Stand Up" to other private actors within the employment market place, regardless of what the market consequences of their actions are?
This is what is so insane about everything you've said. You actually admit your actions will probably destroy systems.
"Unionize the steel workers. Get yours, and when it crashes, who cares, you got fat."
"Socialize health care. If it destroys the private market, so what."
"Stand up to Alabama. When the blue bloods leave and blow up the entire thing, I'll have no problem watching Pitt play in front of 5,000 people."
You admit that you will be blowing up everything but you just don't care. Which is fine, you're allowed to be narcissist and want everything you want. it's just funny you seem to be so upset that the rest of us aren't so eager to hand you a match.