I’d be surprised if he went back to college football. He’s 72 years old. I can see him calling it a career, as he’ll be 73 when the next football seasons starts.
DeBoer to Bama
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Because his employer signed a contract allowing to do so with specific requirements.
Why is this so hard for you to understand?
Alabama will never be the same again with the new transfer portal and NIL rules. The folks down there in Tuscaloosa are in for a rude awakening over the next couple of years. Don't know if DeBoer cared about Washington or not but he is about to find out why they have the old saying...
"You don't want to replace a legend, you want to be the guy to replace the guy who replaced the legend".
Nick Saban is not necessarily a legend to me, but he certainly kept Alabama in the national spot light.
So there’s no evidence that this kid is still interested in Pitt or that Pitt has any shot, he’s taking a visit to OSU this weekend, and a Pitt media outlet writes an article quoting nice things he said about Pitt after an official he took 7 months ago?
Former Top Pitt Target, 4-Star DE Decommits From Washington
Pitt was a finalist for Dominic Kirks the first time around, but he ended up committing to Washington. He decommitted Friday night after head coach Kalen DeBoer accepted the coaching vacancy at Alabama. Kirks — a 6-foot-5, 250-pound four-star defensive lineman from Riverside High in Painesville...pittsburghsportsnow.com
how is this newsworthy to Pitt fans?
The most successful major college coach of all time isn’t a legend to you?
You must have some interesting standards.
It’s a good hire for Bama.
Big concern is recruiting. As an offensive mind, the kind of talent Bama will get him just because it’s Bama can get him to 8 to 10 wins a regular season.
But that’s not enough at Bama, and there’s not much evidence he ever had a much of a reputation for being a stud on the trail.
And big time recruiting in the south is going up against one elite recruiter after another. And you have to win those battles for high 4* to 5* kids to compete for titles in the SEC.
Big concern is recruiting. As an offensive mind, the kind of talent Bama will get him just because it’s Bama can get him to 8 to 10 wins a regular season.
But that’s not enough at Bama, and there’s not much evidence he ever had a much of a reputation for being a stud on the trail.
And big time recruiting in the south is going up against one elite recruiter after another. And you have to win those battles for high 4* to 5* kids to compete for titles in the SEC.
The standard Saban established at Bama is you play for the NC every year and win more of those champ games than you lose. Anything less is a fail. Only guy out there who could continue that level is Urban Meyer IMO.
Meyer is closing in on 60 and he won’t be able to get away with what he did because of open transfer and NIL.
The "recruiting rep" isn't near as important as it used to be, imo. A lot of it now is purely transactional. That's a big reason Saban decided to hang it up.
I'm sure relationships still play some part, but not as much as in the past.
I can think of four instances where a coach that won a national championship was replaced by someone that also would win a national championship and only one improved.
USC: John McKay to John Robinson
ND: Ara Parseghian to Dan Devine
Texas: Darryl Royal to Fred Akers
Neb: Bob Devaney to Tom Osborne
Not at the high school level.
There is a reason why Kirby snatched up T-Rob the second Saban announced his retirement.
The living room is still extremely important in a world where everybody is offering lots of money.
That is my opinion and I stand by it. You do not have to agree with it, but that is my opinion.
A question for you. if Pat Narduzzi and Nick Saban were to have switched places over the last nine years (Narduzzi's time at Pitt), would Nick Saban have a better record at Pitt, then Pat Narduzzi?
I doubt it. Is Narduzzi a legend?
Is Saban more successful at Pitt than Narduzzi was at Pitt?
Is Narduzzi half as successful at Bama as Saban was?
Saban changed college football. He brought the corporate, CEO approach to programs.
How to be as efficient and productive with every aspect of a program, all the way down to tracking the steps the players are taking on campus.
He changed how programs recruit.
He changed how programs spend money.
He changed the coach’s role in resource spending within programs.
Basically every major program, or program that sees itself as major, is doing their best Nick Saban impression.
You can’t change how programs are run and operate, and not be a legend.
Saban also changed his philosophy and opened up his offense after realizing he wasn't going to win titles with his old way. Very impressive coach and there's a reason he won that much. Not everyone can do that with the same resources.
You are comparing a true blue blood football program in Alabama to a school that has little to no interest (Pitt) in improving its football program if they have to spend any money. I am not an expert on Nick Saban or any other previous Alabama football coach, but I do know that they have probably been the top football team in the country over the last 50 or so years. MY mother could coach the Alabama football program and win at least 8 games each year. Pat Narduzzi has to jump through hoops each year just to have a "competitive" football team each year. No comparison in my mind, sorry.
LSU is another one of the Blue Blood programs in football. If Nick Saban is such a good coach and a "legend", then let's see him pull that off a school like Pitt. It is easy to win when you have superior on field talent when compared to that of your opponent. Saban has had that type of an advantage with most of his teams.
LSU definitely a solid program, but they were 124-99 in the 20 years before Saban arrived with many ups and downs. He deserves a lot of credit for setting the foundation there.
He got the LSU job because of succeeding at MSU which he got for succeeding at Toledo
He won 9 games at Toledo
Then built MSU to 9 wins
He and Urban Meyer have proven to be greatest of all time coaches at every level
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