ive seen middle school offenses more complex and multiple than Pitts
This is Neanderthal football
This is Neanderthal football
Elementary My Dear Watson
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How does this bozo keep his job. If narduzzi had any chops this clown would be let go first thing tomorrow
What are you talking about? It is Duzz himself that needs gone tomorrow. Then all the others can leave at the end of the year. The message needs sent now.
Canada isn’t some magician.
Chryst stacked that team with nfl level offensive talent .
The answers are never in the past
James Conner and who else again?
Or did you mean NFL practice squad level talent?
It’s only partly true. The poster that made that statement has never understood-or has always just refused to acknowledge-that football is a nuanced game. We had batter players in 2016 than in 17 and 18, no doubt. Other than Conner, the same ones that Chaney had in 2015. You’d have to believe tgT it was just coincidental that Q Henderson went from bench warmer to All-American in one season, George Aston and Weah went from bench warmers to huge contributors, Scott Orndorff became a weapon for one year, a pedestrian journeyman QB went from middling player to NFL draft pick, and most tellingly, our offensive output practically doubled from one year to the next-shattering program records. The players-especially the O line and QB-did have a big part in that. But without the guy who schemed that offense to maximize the strengths of his personnel, and who called the plays to keep the defenses on their heels in Saturdays, we would have looked a lot like we looked in 2015. And Henderson, Aston, Weah and Ordorff wouldn’t have produced anything close to what they did that one unique 2016 season.
Absolutely. The players certainly did their part. But that was the most amazing coaching performance I've ever seen, to get such incredible productivity out of that offense. As you note they were largely the same players the year before and the offense was barely average. Coaches get too much credit or blame at times but I truly dont think it's possible to give Canada enough credit for that season.
The narrative that the 2016 offense was some kind of all-star team is a major oversimplification of why the O accomplished what it did that year, The offensive players were good and the offensive coaching was great. It was nothing short of masterful.
Sad really then to know that against D1 teams this year we are averaging 19.75 points per game on offense and allowing 38.25 ppg on defense.
That ain't a typo either. Not even 20 ppg.
That ain't a typo either. Not even 20 ppg.
Yes and it was smashmouth power football which proves it is just about being creative in keeping the other team off balance than it is the type of offense that is being run.
Who said all star?
When you have 3 nfl caliber lineman, rb and wr- along with a qb who was drafted and actually started some nfl games-
Yes- the players made his schemes work.
He flamed out of LSU and is now at Maryland.
He’s been a journeyman his whole career.
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Look at it this way-some very prominent people in the business thought enough of what Canada did at Pitt in 2016 and before to make him the highest paid OC in the country. It didn’t work out, in large part because Orgeron didn’t let Canada have free reign and inserted himself in the offense. Orgie even made the statement early last season that he didn’t like all the pre-suit motion and shifts beckase be felt it was confusing to his younger O linemen. Well the motion, shifts and misdirection were the bases for the success of the offense at a Pitt. And it’s worked pretty well so far at Maryland despite the lack of a capable QB or any decent offensive talent.
Not one of those O linemen is on a NFL roster. Neither is the receiver. And the QB likely wouldn’t have even been drafted if not for what his OC did for him.
Look at it this way-some very prominent people in the business thought enough of what Canada did at Pitt in 2016 and before to make him the highest paid OC in the country. It didn’t work out, in large part because Orgeron didn’t let Canada have free reign and inserted himself in the offense. Orgie even made the statement early last season that he didn’t like all the pre-suit motion and shifts beckase be felt it was confusing to his younger O linemen. Well the motion, shifts and misdirection were the bases for the success of the offense at a Pitt. And it’s worked pretty well so far at Maryland despite the lack of a capable QB or any decent offensive talent.
I'd love to see what Pickett could do with Canada as OC. Watson has marginalized him and made him Tino.
There was one legit NFL player on that offense and that was James Conner, who was also recovering from cancer. Imagine if he was 100% healthy that season.
There was one legit NFL player on that offense and that was James Conner, who was also recovering from cancer. Imagine if he was 100% healthy that season.
I’m more than moderately surprised that neither Johnson or Biz was able to stick.
