Well, city schools pay a lot (relatively speaking) so this isnt always true. But, would a teacher pick TJ over Clairton? Probably. But this country produces such an oversupply of teachers that there is going to be very little difference between a rich schools teacher and poor school teacher.
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Well, city schools pay a lot (relatively speaking) so this isnt always true. But, would a teacher pick TJ over Clairton? Probably. But this country produces such an oversupply of teachers that there is going to be very little difference between a rich schools teacher and poor school teacher.
Lots of teachers refuse to take jobs in poor districts because of safety issues and little support from families. And the better districts look for the best teachers, while others are forced to go to lower schools. Prior generations did just fine for most kids. Family mad sure the kids did well. But family isn't so important any more....and that will dribble out to the burbs . Have to admire the families whose kids do well.
I will tell you from experience. Twenty years ago my son had a masters in education from Duquesne. He couldn’t find a job in the Pittsburgh area. He went to a teacher job fair at the convention center. Everyone was lined up at local schools filling out applications. A rep from a school district in Phoenix approached him and offered him a job stating at $60K a year. He jumped on it and moved to Phoenix. He teaches in English and another teacher translates in Spanish. You can’t ask if they’re legal or not. Just pass them no matter what. No home work because there’s no home support.
Pa graduates more teachers than job availability and if you want a good paying teacher’s job you almost have to move out of state. Unless you have a hook with a local school district it’s very hard to get a job in a local school district.
Pa graduates more teachers than job availability and if you want a good paying teacher’s job you almost have to move out of state. Unless you have a hook with a local school district it’s very hard to get a job in a local school district.
My daughter is in her 11th straight years in title One schools....2 in Alaska (no roads, just bushplane) , 2 near Erie and 7 in Flagg (3rd grade kids from the reservation). The kids try to do well but the families are very poor. She loves the kids.
AZ has the lowest $$ for teachers....and the cost of housing is about twice than Pittsburgh. $7-800,000 for a manufactured cabin.
No doubt that was the situation 20 years ago, probably even 5-7 years ago, but a lot has changed since then. PA has a teacher shortage, so much so that the state is offering some substantial programs to support education majors during their student teaching work. Lots of teachers are retiring and not nearly enough kids are majoring in education.
Correct me if I'm wrong but I think it's a sub shortage. Still difficult to get a full-time job. Maybe not like 20 years ago but still an oversupply.
No, it is both. Still tough to get full time job in the NA’s of the world though.
How are best teachers determined?
What are the metrics ?
Or - are you now just talking to sound smart without actually saying anything?
You can get subs anywhere. Subway, Jersey Mikes, Jimmy Johns, Firehouse, heck, just about every grocery store out there sells subs.
Easy to put your money where your mouth is. There are homes for sale in Clairton.
There are currently 28 single family homes listed for sale in Clairton, ranging in asking price from $10,000 to $244,997. Only 4 are $55,000 or less.
There are currently 28 single family homes listed for sale in Clairton, ranging in asking price from $10,000 to $244,997. Only 4 are $55,000 or less.
Yep. Loads of affordable housing. Get a house for 75K instead of 800K and send your kid to Catholic school.
Not sure there are legit measures......personality is a factor. my kid has 2 MBs and they want her to get a Phd. She won't because they'd take her out of the classroom. The kids are her priority.
And you are the WC of tossing stuff on here you just guess about.
No, her kids do quite well, which puts pressure on lesser teachers. Union doesn't like that.
I don't have a criteria, its not my job. What do you know about the criteria??
So her students are outperforming the students in the next classroom over? I doubt that. It's all about who you get. Never taught a day in my life but if you plopped me down in a USC classroom for a year and I did absolutely nothing at all, my students would score near tops in the state. Why? They already hit the DNA lottery.
You said “good districts “ hire the best teachers and the worse ones trickle out into worse schools.
That’s your literal definition above .
I challenged how you’ve determined that .
It seems you are now backtracking deom
That assinine opinion.
You stated the best districts hire the good teachers and the worse schools get the rest .
So - I’m wondering why you think your daughter isn’t a good teacher, since she’s not at “best schools “?
Seems inconsistent at best .
There aren't other districts to go to. Her school was the only one of a few that was honored by the state. Different from PA, where there are more options. 85% come from the reservation. So she teaches in the best available public school.
In the Pgh area there are plenty of good homes and schools. As for hiring, "good" districts hire based on the luxury of being pursued by good teachers with experience......and whom do you know.
All these years and you still twist things to "win" an argument. Slimy.
So
It’s experience - but not quality ?
She has plenty of options - teachers aren’t geographically limited .
Let’s recap -
You made a stupid comment that “bad schools “ don’t have good teachers.
You then declined to actually back that up with any definition of what makes a teacher “good “
Take the L and move on
You haven't been west of the airport, huh. There is ONLY one school district . She wants to help the kids who need it the most. A thought you've probably never had. Still claiming victory by twisting other thoughts.
You are making the case as to why poor school districts have good teachers. Another reason is the pay. After you've been in a poor district for awhile, you may have to take a pay cut to start at the bottom at a richer school district.
I don't get it??? Moving to a wealthier district lowers your pay?? Minimum pay at most "good" schools would lower the pay?? Eeach district has it's pay scale, and it's public info.
Sometimes yes because they are paid based on seniority so if you have X number of years in at Poor School, you may not make as much as starting at the bottom of Rich school.
Sounds like every teacher in a bad school I’ve ever known or talked to .
They are all there to help the kids who need it
As noted , simply hold the L
