Great Article On Speculations Cable TV Changes For CFB & Realignment, LINK!

[CaptainSidneyReilly]

It is about Big Ten Speculation and all know they pioneer the Conference Networks, so they are always watching changes. It is mostly what has been discussed on the Lair but break some myths about Big Ten Academics & Football not being as advertised. Most of us knew it, now more will find out. Either way, good Article on changes and Silicon Valley High Tech heading right towards CFB, as mentioned last year. To me the Article is timely, along with the others making me suspect OU might have reached out or Big Ten reached in and talked about Membership quietly just like Maryland.
Article, Excerpts & Link:
How the changing TV model could impact the Big Ten, some offseason realignment speculation and more:
Today's Big Ten football links look at how the changing cable model of television could have an impact on the Big Ten down the line, and a Big 12 columnist spends the off season speculating on which of those teams could find a home in the Big Ten if that conference falls apart.............Why might Amazon want to stream sports? Because it can serve up ads during games. A fan watching a game on TV would have to note a product that interests him and then seek it out either on the Web or at a brick-and-mortar store. Amazon could place a link within the ad that allows the viewer to purchase the product immediately. That ability to cash in on an impulse buy could be valuable to Amazon and to the manufacturers of the products purchased..................Tramel originally thought the Big Ten's emphasis on academics would eliminate the Sooners from being a candidate for the conference, but his column winds through how Oklahoma might actually be a fit for the Big Ten both on the field and in the classroom. But as I wrote the other day, if the Sooners ever leave the Big 12, the Big Ten would be the destination of choice. But contrary to what I wrote the other day, getting to the Big Ten might not be as difficult as thought. A Big Ten professor who follows college football wrote me to dispute the accepted dogma that the Big Ten would only consider members of the Association of American Universities, an elite academic organization............
LINK:
http://www.pennlive.com/pennstatefo...ging_tv_model_coul.html#incart_social_feature

 

[CaptainSidneyReilly]

I still think OU would consider PAC-12 due to being able to opening up California Recruiting and still keeping Texas Recruiting to the Sooners versus rust Belt Midwest continue decline and competition among ND, OSU, and Michigan. Central Time zone are a must for the PAC-12 to increase value too and brings Silicon Valley & LA Entertainment Giants that grows bigger every day.

Unlike Penn State in 1993, they never realized how hard it would be to compete in the Big Ten. I always thought Joe did not think that move through. The ACC would have been easier to Win as well as keep Michigan and OSU out of Northeast Recruiting as much, and PSU Fans would be able to go to Away Games easier too. I think Joe would have played in 2 or 3 NCS since only FSU was ACC's the Dominant Program in 1990s.

Now that Rutgers and Maryland are in Big Ten it is a tad different, but taking on UM, OSU and MSU is harder. Plus, Rutgers and Maryland can use B1G Money to build their Programs and attract Top Coaches rght next to PSU. If OU & Kansas is added, Illinois and NWU or Wisky could be added to Big Ten East!

OU is smarter that way, OU knows wins are just as important with making money. OU Alumni demand Top 10 Winning and that is easier in the PAC-12. The Big Ten can offer more money but PAC-12 more wins. SEC is also on stand by, if OU really wants bigger money. I don't think Texas heads to the Big Ten either, it can choose anywhere.
Article Excerpts & Link:
Berry Tramel: Would the Big Ten welcome OU?
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A Big Ten professor who follows college football wrote me to dispute the accepted dogma that the Big Ten would only consider members of the Association of American Universities, an elite academic organization. He pointed out not only Michigan State's admission to the Big Ten in 1953 (11 years before the Spartans were granted AAU membership), but the Big Ten's frequent interest in adding Notre Dame, which also is not an AAU member. Nebraska was an AAU member when granted Big Ten membership in 2010 but was voted out of the organization in 2011, based mainly on competitive research financing and the share of faculty in the National Academies. The Big Ten professor said Big Ten presidents knew in 2010 that Nebraska was in danger of losing its AAU membership, and then Nebraska-chancellor Harvey Perlman admitted his school had known for a decade that its AAU status was in peril.............My professor source asks a solid question. Why would the Big Ten vote in a Nebraska it knew was headed out of the AAU but not an OU that has made significant academic strides over the last quarter century and long has had designs of its own on AAU membership? Frankly, all the academic snobbery stuff is above my understanding.................Well, a partner is mandatory, preferably from this part of the country. And that means either Texas or Kansas (both of which are AAU members, by the way). Either would fulfill the Big Ten's apparent requirements of new markets.................
LINK:
http://newsok.com/article/5548411

 

[RaleighPittFan]

The ACC was not interested in expanding beyond FSU when PSU was looking for a conference to join. Joe from State College had no chance of playing with the southern boys in the ACC.

 

[CaptainSidneyReilly]

The ACC was not interested in expanding beyond FSU when PSU was looking for a conference to join. Joe from State College had no chance of playing with the southern boys in the ACC.

Not really, I once Linked an Article from a well known Consultant & Former UVA AD that was in the planning of a Eastern New League in 1990s. It was to include all Independents plus some ACC Schools.

He said it was stunned when PSU announced to join The Big Ten. He said, if he had more time he would have approach Penn State and that would have sealed the deals with FSU, PSU, MIAMI, WVU, PITT, UVA, CLEMSON, GT, UNC, NCS, (No VT or Wake), and some others. I might have it in my Archives if I find it, I'll Re-post it! Joe beat his Plan by just a few months and the Big Ten Deal was done.

Everyone may get angry sometimes but "What Joe Knew" was having the Foresight to Build Penn State Program into a National Power way back in 1965. One day, I'll post how it was done, and it was a great accomplishment that deserves admiration.

This was a Decade before his "Joe Knew" later Growing too Big an Ego, Sandusky Misjudgements, and Staying Way Too Long, With Little Institutional Control over him by Spanier, and Joe insistence no one was allow to oversight of his players but him, even not Judicial Affairs and PSU did not comply with Clery Act or Title iX, or Athletic Integrity Agreement, nor Code of Conduct for his Players now known by Court Documents and Sanctions!

 

[RaleighPittFan]

Not really, I once Linked an Article from a well known Consultant & Former UVA AD that was in the planning of a Eastern New League in 1990s. It was to include all Independents plus some ACC Schools.

He said it was stunned when PSU announced to join The Big Ten. He said, if he had more time he would have approach Penn State and that would have sealed the deals with FSU, PSU, MIAMI, WVU, PITT, UVA, CLEMSON, GT, UNC, NCS, (No VT or Wake), and some others. I might have it in my Archives if I find it, I'll Re-post it! Joe beat his Plan by just a few months and the Big Ten Deal was done.

Everyone may get angry sometimes but "What Joe Knew" was having the Foresight to Build Penn State Program into a National power way back in 1965. One day, I'll post how it was done, and it was a great accomplishment that deserves admiration.

This was a Decade before his "Joe Knew" later Misjudgements now known by Court Documents and Sanctions!

Thanks, I'd like to see that if you can find it.

 

[CaptainSidneyReilly]

Thanks, I'd like to see that if you can find it.

FOUND IT FOR YOU & SOME MORE TOO:
History lesson: Super-conference concept rooted in 1990 proposal
EXCERPT:
The idea was to create a super conference of 16 schools overlapping states from the Northeast through the South. Eventually, according to this plan, there would be four super conferences that blanketed the country, and their champions would come together in a playoff to decide the national champ in college football..................According to Raycom’s plan, the Metro’s members would have come from the North (Boston College, Syracuse, Pittsburgh), the South (Miami, Florida State, South Carolina) and moved west through the middle of the country (Louisville, Memphis, Cincinnati). The original plan also included Penn State, but the Nittany Lions committed to the Big Ten before Raycom could finish the project.........The super-conference idea didn’t work out for the Metro. A year after the study, in 1991, Florida State ended up going to the ACC, South Carolina joined Arkansas as new members of the SEC, and the Big East began playing football, which gave Syracuse, Boston College, Pittsburgh, Virginia Tech and Miami a conference home for football............
LINK:
http://www.sportsbusinessdaily.com/Journal/Issues/2011/09/26/Colleges/Super-conference.aspx

THE PENNLIVE VIEW RE-WRITE 2013:
Imagine Penn State in an Eastern all-sports conference including Syracuse and maybe even Pittsburgh. Not just any Eastern conference, not an ersatz Big East, but one with regular road trips to mild locales in Florida, Georgia and South Carolina.

It was a hair's breadth from happening. But at the 11th hour, after six months of haggling among its athletic directors and coaches, the Big Ten's presidents voted by the narrowest of possible margins to follow through on their stated intention and officially admit Penn State into its fold...............

According to the man who was then commissioner of the Atlantic Coast Conference, he would have done everything in his considerable power to convince his league's university presidents that inviting Penn State was a no-brainer. Gene Corrigan says Penn State would likely have become a member of the ACC and would now have been so for over two decades.

I first heard this story from then-Penn State athletics director Jim Tarman back in 1994. He told me that Corrigan called him shortly after PSU's stunning invitation to the league became public on Dec. 14, 1989. It was an invitation fast-tracked by then-Illinois president Stan Ikenberry, a former Penn State vice provost, who was then chairman of the Big Ten presidents “Council of Ten.”

Only the league presidents knew; nobody else, including the Big Ten ADs, faculty reps and coaches, had been told. And when the ADs were gathered on a conference call and informed by their new commissioner, many were not amused.

Michigan's Bo Schembechler, then just retired as football coach and having assumed the AD's role, reacted with unbridled anger. He told me in 1994 that after a moment of stony silence he blurted into his phone to Delany for all to hear: “You gotta be s--tting me!”

Corrigan remembers being just as flabbergasted as everyone else, then remorseful that the ACC hadn't thought of inviting Penn State first. Tarman told me Corrigan called him the next day and lamented: “Why didn't you tell us you wanted in a major conference? We would've taken you in a heartbeat.”

“It's true,” said Corrigan, now 85 but as spry and sharp as when he was Notre Dame athletics director in the 1980s. His first reaction upon hearing the news?

“Aww, s---!,” replied Corrigan, using the barnyard expletive with a laugh. “What were we thinking of? What were we not thinking of?

“I remember having a meeting with [associate commissioner] Tom Mickle and some of our people and I said, 'We have been sitting here sound asleep while this thing happened.' And that's when we started thinking about getting Florida State.........
LINK:
http://www.pennlive.com/sports/index.ssf/2013/07/penn_state_in_acc_not_big_ten.html

OTHERS PLANS:
Penn State, Notre Dame, and the proposed "Eastern Seaboard League" (1990)
Also in 1990, the concept of the superconference came into the national spotlight as Penn State joined the Big Ten as its 11th member. That same year, Notre Dame reached its own television deal with NBC instead of continuing its participation in the College Football Association's contract with CBS. Both of these moves greatly concerned schools with independent football programs and resulted in discussions among Eastern independents concerning the creation of a proposed "Eastern Seaboard League" (ESL). According to a 1990 Sports Illustrated article, the ten schools most likely to join the ESL were Miami, Boston College, Florida State, South Carolina, West Virginia, Virginia Tech, Temple, Rutgers, Syracuse, and Pitt.[4] The ESL was never formed, but the Big East decided to sponsor football starting in 1991 and added Miami, West Virginia, Virginia Tech, Temple, and Rutgers as conference members.[5]
LINK:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Super...osed_.22Eastern_Seaboard_League.22_.281990.29

ANOTHER ON ACC AND FSU IN 1990:
From the time that the first SEC team appeared on the Seminoles' schedule in 1952, six years after the Florida State College for Women became a coeducational institution, FSU fancied itself as the new neighbor, biding its time until it was invited over. In the early 1970s, former FSU president Stanley Marshall began to push the issue, conducting a personal tour of SEC campuses in an attempt to land the Seminoles a place in the conference. That vision remained as late as 1990, when the face of college football began to change. In August of 1989, Penn State, which along with Notre Dame, Miami and FSU represented the most prominent football independents, accepted an invitation to join the Big Ten. Shortly thereafter, the SEC announced its intention to expand from 10 to 12 teams, quickly snapping up Arkansas from the soon-to-be-disbanded Southwest Conference. Florida State, with its 32-4 record over a three-year stretch under Bowden, had become an attractive dance partner. "We had tried to get in the SEC for 30 years and had been turned down all the time," Bowden said, recalling the events in the summer of '90 that ultimately led the school to forgo its independent status. "Then all of a sudden they came to us wanting to get in there."
LINK:
http://jacksonville.com/tu-online/stories/051301/col_6160687.html

 

[RaleighPittFan]

FOUND IT FOR YOU & SOME MORE TOO:
History lesson: Super-conference concept rooted in 1990 proposal
EXCERPT:
The idea was to create a super conference of 16 schools overlapping states from the Northeast through the South. Eventually, according to this plan, there would be four super conferences that blanketed the country, and their champions would come together in a playoff to decide the national champ in college football..................According to Raycom’s plan, the Metro’s members would have come from the North (Boston College, Syracuse, Pittsburgh), the South (Miami, Florida State, South Carolina) and moved west through the middle of the country (Louisville, Memphis, Cincinnati). The original plan also included Penn State, but the Nittany Lions committed to the Big Ten before Raycom could finish the project.........The super-conference idea didn’t work out for the Metro. A year after the study, in 1991, Florida State ended up going to the ACC, South Carolina joined Arkansas as new members of the SEC, and the Big East began playing football, which gave Syracuse, Boston College, Pittsburgh, Virginia Tech and Miami a conference home for football............
LINK:
http://www.sportsbusinessdaily.com/Journal/Issues/2011/09/26/Colleges/Super-conference.aspx

THE PENNLIVE VIEW RE-WRITE 2013:
Imagine Penn State in an Eastern all-sports conference including Syracuse and maybe even Pittsburgh. Not just any Eastern conference, not an ersatz Big East, but one with regular road trips to mild locales in Florida, Georgia and South Carolina.

It was a hair's breadth from happening. But at the 11th hour, after six months of haggling among its athletic directors and coaches, the Big Ten's presidents voted by the narrowest of possible margins to follow through on their stated intention and officially admit Penn State into its fold...............

According to the man who was then commissioner of the Atlantic Coast Conference, he would have done everything in his considerable power to convince his league's university presidents that inviting Penn State was a no-brainer. Gene Corrigan says Penn State would likely have become a member of the ACC and would now have been so for over two decades.

I first heard this story from then-Penn State athletics director Jim Tarman back in 1994. He told me that Corrigan called him shortly after PSU's stunning invitation to the league became public on Dec. 14, 1989. It was an invitation fast-tracked by then-Illinois president Stan Ikenberry, a former Penn State vice provost, who was then chairman of the Big Ten presidents “Council of Ten.”

Only the league presidents knew; nobody else, including the Big Ten ADs, faculty reps and coaches, had been told. And when the ADs were gathered on a conference call and informed by their new commissioner, many were not amused.

Michigan's Bo Schembechler, then just retired as football coach and having assumed the AD's role, reacted with unbridled anger. He told me in 1994 that after a moment of stony silence he blurted into his phone to Delany for all to hear: “You gotta be s--tting me!”

Corrigan remembers being just as flabbergasted as everyone else, then remorseful that the ACC hadn't thought of inviting Penn State first. Tarman told me Corrigan called him the next day and lamented: “Why didn't you tell us you wanted in a major conference? We would've taken you in a heartbeat.”

“It's true,” said Corrigan, now 85 but as spry and sharp as when he was Notre Dame athletics director in the 1980s. His first reaction upon hearing the news?

“Aww, s---!,” replied Corrigan, using the barnyard expletive with a laugh. “What were we thinking of? What were we not thinking of?

“I remember having a meeting with [associate commissioner] Tom Mickle and some of our people and I said, 'We have been sitting here sound asleep while this thing happened.' And that's when we started thinking about getting Florida State.........
LINK:
http://www.pennlive.com/sports/index.ssf/2013/07/penn_state_in_acc_not_big_ten.html

OTHERS PLANS:
Penn State, Notre Dame, and the proposed "Eastern Seaboard League" (1990)
Also in 1990, the concept of the superconference came into the national spotlight as Penn State joined the Big Ten as its 11th member. That same year, Notre Dame reached its own television deal with NBC instead of continuing its participation in the College Football Association's contract with CBS. Both of these moves greatly concerned schools with independent football programs and resulted in discussions among Eastern independents concerning the creation of a proposed "Eastern Seaboard League" (ESL). According to a 1990 Sports Illustrated article, the ten schools most likely to join the ESL were Miami, Boston College, Florida State, South Carolina, West Virginia, Virginia Tech, Temple, Rutgers, Syracuse, and Pitt.[4] The ESL was never formed, but the Big East decided to sponsor football starting in 1991 and added Miami, West Virginia, Virginia Tech, Temple, and Rutgers as conference members.[5]
LINK:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Super...osed_.22Eastern_Seaboard_League.22_.281990.29

ANOTHER ON ACC AND FSU IN 1990:
From the time that the first SEC team appeared on the Seminoles' schedule in 1952, six years after the Florida State College for Women became a coeducational institution, FSU fancied itself as the new neighbor, biding its time until it was invited over. In the early 1970s, former FSU president Stanley Marshall began to push the issue, conducting a personal tour of SEC campuses in an attempt to land the Seminoles a place in the conference. That vision remained as late as 1990, when the face of college football began to change. In August of 1989, Penn State, which along with Notre Dame, Miami and FSU represented the most prominent football independents, accepted an invitation to join the Big Ten. Shortly thereafter, the SEC announced its intention to expand from 10 to 12 teams, quickly snapping up Arkansas from the soon-to-be-disbanded Southwest Conference. Florida State, with its 32-4 record over a three-year stretch under Bowden, had become an attractive dance partner. "We had tried to get in the SEC for 30 years and had been turned down all the time," Bowden said, recalling the events in the summer of '90 that ultimately led the school to forgo its independent status. "Then all of a sudden they came to us wanting to get in there."
LINK:
http://jacksonville.com/tu-online/stories/051301/col_6160687.html

Thank you!

 

[CaptainSidneyReilly]

Thank you!

Welcome, but will post one day about how Joe Knew To Build a Top 15-25 Program from 1965 to 1994 Winning and won many Bowl Games as well and had 5 Undefeated Seasons.

But later his Lack of Athletic Integrity caught up to his and turned his Legacy into Ashes today from 1976-2011. When Joe Knew some other things too, now proven in Court Documented under seal! Joining the Big Ten made it tougher on Joe too! this is when he was playing players suspended or violated NCAA rules without being investigated ass he should have been in 1996, 1998, later early 2000-2011.

Joe needed those Players to play to win, but they were never reported on Clery Act and Title IX as required by Law. Joe was winning without Athletic Integrity from 1990s to 2011 for sure as reported in DOE, Title IX-Clery Investigation Report that did an review only from 1998-2011?!

One reason why Joe Cried before he died in Hindsight he knew this would come out and it did and the Paterno's Defenders have been silent on that DOE-DOJ Report and only attack Freeh that actually exposed it too?