Has the Republican Party evolved into fascism?
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I can’t stand Laura Ingraham. Can’t stand her! But come on…she’s highly educated and clerked in the Supreme Court.
I think the point is that trump and the GOP made major gains with the young people this election cycle, as they made gains in most other demographics too. The youth vote is still liberal.
As far as voting for economic futures, that’s why suburban married men and to a lesser extent suburban married mothers with children are overwhelming trump and GOP voters.
True, she's exactly how you described and like a lot of those media people doesn't believe most of what they say-right or left. But she's definitely not a scholar was my point. That's just like if Jon Stewart wrote a book-I still wouldn't take it seriously and I agree with him more than not (but not always).
Well I think Jon Stewart is very smart. Misguided. But smart. And Laura Ingraham when it comes to law and the judiciary, would clean everyone’s clocks in this forum and 99.9% of the population. She’s just unbearable to watch or listen to. Lol.
You are wrong on most of this.
Trump won the youth male vote. This was for 2 main reasons. Kamala being a woman hurt but also Trump and his rhetoric has a certain coolness factor for the college bros. Also, they did an excellent job on TikTok and the bro podcasts/manosphere. Incredibly great campaign strategy to target that youth male vote. That will be studied in political science courses forever.
The suburban vote depends on what you consider the suburbs. Harris won suburban women and also suburban men (by some metrics).
lol. The scientific American. That’s about as scientific as the National Enquirer. The fact you think that’s a legit scientific journal is just more evidence tbh you’re retarded
For someone who said you didn’t care what we thought you sure do love getting beaten like a red headed step child
He did and what I am trying to argue is this does not predict any long term political trends either way. I completely disagree with people that when Obama swept to power with the Dems in 2008 that it was the end of the GOP, and it was even worse when he won a second time with minorities. These things swing based on really simple things like economics-fair or unfair.
I personally hate political parties, but my values and policies "generally" align currently with the Dems but as a white, straight male, I get why many younger and middle age white males hate the Dems. They/we have made the perception, right or wrong, that we hate them and they are the cause of all the worlds ills. Among others. And then with the trans issue, they take the bait on a demographic that effects such a tiny portion of the population rather than talking about economics-period.
The suburban married man and suburban wife trends have ebbed and flowed away from the gop. We are aligning on college education, gender, and class status in a way we haven't ever. You can't predict the future but it wouldn't shock me in the least if the Dems get their economic message together, they retake portions (or all of the government) by the time this decade is through.
Just my humble two cents.
The thing is, almost all of these TV people are highly intelligent. And, almost all politicians are highly intelligent. Not all, but most. So I hate when people say such and such TV commentator or politician are very stupid. Uh, no. You just disagree with their politics. People cannot seem to fathom that someone can be highly intelligent AND have a different worldview. In most cases, it is because THAT person is actually very stupid themselves (NCPitt for example).
I know, scientific reporting on peer reviewed article is a scary thing. Lemme guess, you think chem trails are real don't you. And you honestly think by me responding that I care about what you think? Lol. you must be dumber than I think, or probably your a product of an incestuous relationship.
I’m not one who condones drag queen story hours and MAPs. It’s the party that you support. I love the fact that I’m living in that tiny little coconut of yours.
Well, I will respectfully agree to disagree with you on Jon Stewart but that's fine. He's still not a scholar in genetics or subject matter expert in these subjects we were discussing. I bet on law you are correct, and on here she would beat 99.99% of this forum (that's not hard! lol) but she, Stewart, Hannity, Maddow, all are entertainers. I would not ask any one of them on there thoughts on whether I should vaccinated myself or not-not even the ones I agree with.
Holy shit. I read your whole post and thought it was SMF’s the whole time and I was wondering why it was so reasoned and well thought out. Then I realized it was you and not him. Lol.
Don't you have some ramen noodle to go make and more chem trails and HARP research to conduct? I bet you search up here for Bigfoot, don't you?
NC is one of the smartest people in this forum.
And generally you’re right about politicians. But tell me with a straight face that AOC and Lauren Boebert, and hell Maxine Watters aren’t all dingbats? Not trying to sound misogynistic because I just mentioned women, and it’s well established here that I respect women much more than you…but who would be the dingbat men in Congress currently. None come to mind easily. Swallwell maybe. But I think he probably is smart. Tuberville? He’s probably smart too.
And I didn’t say Schiff either. The guy might be the biggest liar POS on earth, but he’s smart.
AOC is highly intelligent. BU grad. Lauren Boebert is a moron. Probably 850 on SAT's. Maxine Watters Probably also an idiot. I doubt Tuberville is very smart but Senators are a higher class. You aren't going to find any stupid senators. US Reps though, good Lord, there's some folks in there with below average intelligence because all it takes is to win a primary in some districts.
I think this works in Trump's favor and it's part of why he is so popular. Think about the people who you hear speak publicly:
News commentators
Politicians
Athletes
Coaches
Athletes and coaches you write off because what they are saying isn't that important and you aren't expecting them to be great oratory. But news folks and politicians, you do....and they generally are and it's mostly because they are highly educated. So along comes Trump, who isn't a complete moron but only possesses average intelligence (probably 950-1000 on SATs) so he just sounds so different. Not even in what he is saying but how he says it. He sounds like the everyman with that limited vocabulary. He sounds authentic and it's not an act. He genuinely isn't very smart. I know Dems are flabbergasted that uneducated rural voters relate to a NYC draft-dodging billionaire but its the limited vocabulary, its the inability to string sentences together. He comes across as a normal dude. Then you add in the racism and xenophobia and you have a political powerhouse that the world has never seen.
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Yea, Schiff may be one of the MOST intelligent members of Congress and not just going by the Stanford/Harvard education.
AOC can’t put together a sentence or intelligent thought. As far as the squad goes, she has to have the lowest IQ and that’s saying something.
I will blame liberals on this. The ultra feminist movement really pissed off a ton of young men. Being told they are rapists, etc. Also that movement doesn’t help itself at all by ignoring very real issues that men face such as high suicide rates.
Will also add to, and even I have questioned this one. It is fantastic to work towards equal pay and equal employment, but it does turn off men when you ask about equality In things like the selected services, or that when you point out that men are still doing the vast majority of physically debilitating jobs they poo poo that. You don’t hear the feminist movement advocating for equal hiring rates among garbage men.
So yeah, the democrats have done a horrific job there
Aoc is exceptionally talented and quite eloquent. You just don’t like her because she’s a socialist
I don't think AOC is a dingbat, even if I don't always agree with her takes. The other two definitely. There's plenty more on both sides that are just dumb. That's actually the thing I dislike these days.
We can disagree on AOC. I guess maybe I shouldn't have said she is "highly intelligent." I dont think she couldn't have gotten into an Ivy. She is that next level down which is probably why she went to BU. She isn't Slippery Rock or IUP like some of you people think.
Yea that's all part of it but I think that, generally, young white guys can't relate to a Jamaican/Indian American woman when you have Trump saying so much cool shit, bro. Did you see he said they're eating your dogs?
"The Nazi regime didn’t drastically cut civil service jobs but repurposed them. The Civil Service Law of April 1933 purged Jews and political opponents, replacing them with Nazi loyalists. By 1939, party membership was mandatory for civil servants, swelling the ranks of ideologically aligned bureaucrats. Estimates suggest the civil service grew modestly from 1.2 million to around 1.5–2 million by the late 1930s, though precise data is scarce due to overlapping party-state roles."
So Hitler's government was 1.5-2 million out of a population of 69 million.
The current US government is about 2 million out of a population of 330 million. And Trump wants it drastically reduced.
So tell me again how Hitler wanted a small government and how Trump aligns with Hitler again.
You fail to understand that is a winning coalition. Add in Kennedy's votes and other right parties and you get over 50%.
Have you seen the NYT arrow map from the election? The Gop dominated it.
"Each red arrow represents a U.S. county where Republicans gained ground in the 2024 election compared to the 2020 election, and the arrows’ lengths correlate to the magnitude of those gains. Overall, the map concisely illustrates an overwhelming nationwide shift to the right—literally and figuratively."
Yes, and?Have you seen the NYT arrow map from the election? The Gop dominated it.
"Each red arrow represents a U.S. county where Republicans gained ground in the 2024 election compared to the 2020 election, and the arrows’ lengths correlate to the magnitude of those gains. Overall, the map concisely illustrates an overwhelming nationwide shift to the right—literally and figuratively."
You fail to acknowledge that it was a pretty paltry win by historical standards. Not sure why you keep ignoring that.
Which voters or are you trying to be ironically obtuse like you always are. I thought you guys said polls where fake? Or is it you like to pick ones that demonstrate your ideological bias?
And if you add in Kamala's votes, you get 100%. What the eff are you talking about?
Have you seen the NYT arrow map from the election? The Gop dominated it.
"Each red arrow represents a U.S. county where Republicans gained ground in the 2024 election compared to the 2020 election, and the arrows’ lengths correlate to the magnitude of those gains. Overall, the map concisely illustrates an overwhelming nationwide shift to the right—literally and figuratively."
Doing better doesn't mean a mandate. It means you improved, largely due to a terrible opponent who no one heard of before August.
49.8%
