Hell even having a heisman candidate qb is turned into a negative for these people. Again, the goalpost constantly move.
Historically low attendance Saturday?
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Hell even having a heisman candidate qb is turned into a negative for these people. Again, the goalpost constantly move.
There’s been so many games, days like this the last 50 yrs that it’s even more mind boggling that someone actually thought permanently moving all of the fb games there without reconfiguring anything except a couple banners would work.
Always go to Pitt home games. Win or Lose. Our group will be there and we'll have a good time.
Same. Hell, was at that UConn Thursday night shitshow. That was probably the low.
Pitt fans are just frugal people. Fan base is a nice size…..just a bunch of people not willing to spend money or have kid activities that take priority. I imagine in other college areas kid activities are not scheduled for Saturday’s in fall. A stadium that had somewhere between 40-50k seats would look so much better come game day!
Indeed, as I also posted. It could and should have easily be part of the original model for the new stadium, Pitt would only have a seating capacity of 40000 (or whatever the first and second deck seat). The top decks would have custom fabric awnings in the design (likely easily to control remotely by power) to raise and lower. Lower for most of our games, raise them for the very, very rare “big” games like Notre Dame.
It would have been known from the start of Pitt’s existence at Heinz that the normal capacity was going to be 40k Max. And that’s how the season tix would be marketed, priced and sold. Every game day from the very start would max at that. The awnings over the top decks, properly designed, could be well integrated and have colors, graphics, sponsors showing. For example, the retired numbers would be featured very prominently on those awnings, rather than the nearly invisible banners strewn over the ramps today. Game day atmosphere would be more intimate, more comraderie, more concentrated noise. It would seem far less forlorn than it almost always is now.
And revenue could well have been better than it ended up because the smaller capacity would allow for more premium pricing and donations to get the tickets.
Pitt leadership then and now knew well that Pitt could not support seating of nearly 67000. It has and still has absolutely no intent for the football program to be successful to the extent that it would need so much seating. Really poor management, but then again that’s nothing new
I love it that way, I hate that they ended divisions, I liked winning the Coastal and then pounding my chest that we #1, I don't care how bad or good the other teams are.
Yep, everyone's got them.
-Pitt could be much better if the administration didn't submarine it. (despite being one of the top spenders in the ACC on paper)
-If Pitt had an on-campus stadium we'd be better
-If Pitt fans showed up more then Pitt would win more
-Narduzzi is a defensive coach, you can't expect him to control the offense
But yeah, Pitt has mediocre fans for a program that has been mediocre my entire lifetime. It's delusional people that think the program's watermark is from 40+ years ago and compare Pitt's support to PSU, Michigan State, Wisconsin, etc. instead of against our actual peers like Boston College and Maryland, etc.
Considering Pitt's weak home schedule in 1976 and attendance grew as the season went along with rival games for an average of 44,367:
Temple 38,500
Louisville 34,000
Miami 42,434 and they weren't the U yet
Syracuse 50,399
West Virginia 56,500
They even wrote about it in Syracuse.
Big East football links: Pittsburgh crowd 'embarrassing' despite seats available online for 99 cents
Big East football links: Pittsburgh crowd embarrassing
They even wrote about it in Syracuse.
Big East football links: Pittsburgh crowd 'embarrassing' despite seats available online for 99 cents
Big East football links: Pittsburgh crowd embarrassingwww.syracuse.com
"looked at least half empty".
Yeah, there were a couple sections in the stadium that night that "looked at least half empty". Most of the sections, however, looked way more empty than that.
If you set the over/under on the actual attendance that night at about 12,000 I'm pretty sure I'd take the under.
Pitt has a fine fan base despite what some idiots on here say. 40k is a fine crowd for this team vs this opponent. I can't believe that there are still morons that try to compare our program with the PSU's and OSU's and ND's of the world. Pitt has been one of the worst football programs and has been run by the most incompetent administrations for nearly a century. The fan base is actually pretty solid. Nothing special but solid.
If there were actually 40,000 people there tonight, given the circumstances, that would be great.
And while Pitt may very well announce a number in excess of 40,000 (in fact I expect them to) there will not be anywhere close to that many people actually there.
You don’t win by withholding donations and support
That’s never worked it never will
It’s college football which today more than ever is about booster support.
Pitt also has about the lowest in support from alumni… so PITT is spending Pitts money making the excuses even worse for fan complaining
I get it … I’m disgusted as well… but treating PITT football like a professional organization hasn’t worked… it just doesn’t
Living in Georgia this is true.
UGA fans definitely have more respect for our program than our fans do. Many also remember two games in particular of historic note between the programs . And some of spoke with noted the improvement under Narduzzi
Don’t buy the Yinzer self loathing hype folks
This might be one of the worst looking game days ever, and if I didn’t have club seats for this one (able to move up today because, yep, the regular seat owners aren’t going), I would not be going to see this likely mess. In fact the only reason we’re going is to see what Veilleux can do, without the filtering/inane warbling of the announcers and tight camera angles.
It really helps to be there and see the whole field, what the receivers are doing (or not) and the blocking, etc. This actually was true last week with the Steelers game, which I rarely get to go to (but once again, friends bailed on going with their tix). It makes a difference. When watching on TV, you just don’t get the full story. What you see when you are there at least the Raves game is that 9 times out of 10 the protection IMMEDIATELY was breaking down, and Steelers receivers were rarely open, especially at the point in the play that the ball must be thrown (moron fans and media are always griping that “receivers are running wide open” when that is rarely the case until after the play is over). In fact the receivers seem to just run straight AT the defender and then hand check with him. I left that game convinced that Pickett is not playing great by any means, but Canada is woefully out of his element in the NFL, and honestly don’t think any other QB would be any better, save for a Mahones who would like just ignore the play call.
Anyway I digress, but this will be the same watching Veilleux. In watching Jurkovec (and Slovis last season to an extent at the actual games), the situation has been different. The protection is shaky for Pitt as well, but not as bad as the Steelers. And the Pitt receivers seem to be running actual ROUTES, they are always moving, and a QB with enough time, cool, and competent enough to check down should pretty much always have a receiver. Cig provides some confidence in that sense. However, he didn’t seem able to convey or convince Slovis and especially Jurkovec to execute. Can it be successful with Veilleux after 13 days prep? That’s the reason to go (but not to the last minute on a as miserable a day as this!)
Good kick to the boys either way
It really helps to be there and see the whole field, what the receivers are doing (or not) and the blocking, etc. This actually was true last week with the Steelers game, which I rarely get to go to (but once again, friends bailed on going with their tix). It makes a difference. When watching on TV, you just don’t get the full story. What you see when you are there at least the Raves game is that 9 times out of 10 the protection IMMEDIATELY was breaking down, and Steelers receivers were rarely open, especially at the point in the play that the ball must be thrown (moron fans and media are always griping that “receivers are running wide open” when that is rarely the case until after the play is over). In fact the receivers seem to just run straight AT the defender and then hand check with him. I left that game convinced that Pickett is not playing great by any means, but Canada is woefully out of his element in the NFL, and honestly don’t think any other QB would be any better, save for a Mahones who would like just ignore the play call.
Anyway I digress, but this will be the same watching Veilleux. In watching Jurkovec (and Slovis last season to an extent at the actual games), the situation has been different. The protection is shaky for Pitt as well, but not as bad as the Steelers. And the Pitt receivers seem to be running actual ROUTES, they are always moving, and a QB with enough time, cool, and competent enough to check down should pretty much always have a receiver. Cig provides some confidence in that sense. However, he didn’t seem able to convey or convince Slovis and especially Jurkovec to execute. Can it be successful with Veilleux after 13 days prep? That’s the reason to go (but not to the last minute on a as miserable a day as this!)
Good kick to the boys either way
Pitt fans definitely do not accept mediocrity like they do at other schools like Minnesota for example. Those fans know they will never be on the level with the Big Three in that conference and accept it.
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