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I'm with Zeise...

Rehashing the hiring of Stallings is pointless; it happened.
And for those that want to dump Stallings, firing a coach is always easy, and often a popular sentiment. But, finding a good replacement isn't usually as easy. Tennessee football gets a new HC ever 2-3 years these days, and they quickly canned Jones this year. They've been turned down by a half a dozen coaches already, and they're still searching. Its getting embarrassing.

Like him or not, firing Stallings early will just make the Pitt job less attractive.
Well, I don't think Pitt could do worse and I think the longer Stallings is around the less attractive it gets.
 
My point is more that I think it’s ridiculous to have hope when you’re scraping the barrel for a 2nd tier unproven coach.

I’m not even talking about elevating the program — that had no chance of happening.
Whay about Kevin Keatts and Bryce Drew? Either would have been much better hires and attainable.

I sure hope you and @fkthomas have attended every game and increased your donations.

I think there’s a better chance of Stallings getting Pitt back up to a level above BC and Wake and Clemson before he is fired than if we had hired somebody unknown.

I think the bottom would have fallen out after last year either way.
We were already ahead of those programs. He brought us below them and clearly below them. He did everything bad top this program.

Kevin Keatts had no shot with the Pitino stuff going on.

Bryce Drew was known to not be an option at a public university.

Would have been fine with Drew if he had any interest in coaching at a public school. Had, and have, no interest in Keatts and his potential baggage. End of the day, he’s still a shot-in-the-dark low major coach who I don’t think is worth any additional risk.

I also don’t think Pitt is or was ahead of those programs. As pretty much every reporter who spoke with coaches said, Pitt was seen a school whose success was tied to Dixon. The program itself is viewed poorly. It’s why everybody mocked us.
 
Kevin Keatts had no shot with the Pitino stuff going on.

Bryce Drew was known to not be an option at a public university.

Would have been fine with Drew if he had any interest in coaching at a public school. Had, and have, no interest in Keatts and his potential baggage. End of the day, he’s still a shot-in-the-dark low major coach who I don’t think is worth any additional risk.

I also don’t think Pitt is or was ahead of those programs. As pretty much every reporter who spoke with coaches said, Pitt was seen a school whose success was tied to Dixon. The program itself is viewed poorly. It’s why everybody mocked us.
This all compete BS.

Enjoy being the worst program in P5. We will likely never recover.
 
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Kevin Keatts had no shot with the Pitino stuff going on.

Bryce Drew was known to not be an option at a public university.

Would have been fine with Drew if he had any interest in coaching at a public school. Had, and have, no interest in Keatts and his potential baggage. End of the day, he’s still a shot-in-the-dark low major coach who I don’t think is worth any additional risk.

I also don’t think Pitt is or was ahead of those programs. As pretty much every reporter who spoke with coaches said, Pitt was seen a school whose success was tied to Dixon. The program itself is viewed poorly. It’s why everybody mocked us.
This all compete BS.

Enjoy being the worst program in P5. We will likely never recover.

We would have been here regardless given how things ended, and yes, we probably never will recover.

But, on the bright side, we got rid of Dixon instead of settling for mediocrity.
 
We would have been here regardless given how things ended, and yes, we probably never will recover.

But, on the bright side, we got rid of Dixon instead of settling for mediocrity.
Was that second paragraph sarcastic....
 
Was that second paragraph sarcastic....

Yes, it's making fun at the loonies who looked at Pitt at its absolute apex and said "that's it, that's the standard, Pitt has elevated its program, it has a brand now, and that brand is good enough to sell itself if only we could get a competent coach in here to sell it".
 
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This is my entire reason for thinking it’s ridiculous to fire Stallings after this year — right after he turned over his roster.

People think Pitt was a hard job to get coaches to take seriously last time? Go ahead and fire Stallings right after he turned over the whole roster. He’s too respected to screw over like that. No coach with any other options is going to walk into a situation where a coach who is wildly more successful than he is run out of town because he turned over a roster and lost while doing it.

Whether we like it or not, Stallings needs to be given a fair shot. He’s too accomplished and too respected not to be.



He is not being fired regardless. Way to much money to buy him out and other coaches etc etc. the best hope is for team to get better have some guys transfer next year and recruit some better players next year. He is. It a horrible coach. He is not close to Dixon as far as coaching. He needs to recruit better. He spaces the floor out well but the bottom line he needs a stud guard and a big man that can play d and rebound
 
We would have been here regardless given how things ended, and yes, we probably never will recover.

But, on the bright side, we got rid of Dixon instead of settling for mediocrity.
No, we wouldn't have. We wells have been a respectable team lady year, at least made the NIT (maybe NCAAT), and we wouldn't have sunk close to this low.

You are settling for being absolutely terrible
 
We would have been here regardless given how things ended, and yes, we probably never will recover.

But, on the bright side, we got rid of Dixon instead of settling for mediocrity.
No, we wouldn't have. We wells have been a respectable team lady year, at least made the NIT (maybe NCAAT), and we wouldn't have sunk close to this low.

You are settling for being absolutely terrible

With the coaches who actually wanted this job, we weren’t going anywhere.

Which, if people had any self awareness, was exactly what literally everybody outside of the Pitt fan base said would happen.
 
With the coaches who actually wanted this job, we weren’t going anywhere.

Which, if people had any self awareness, was exactly what literally everybody outside of the Pitt fan base said would happen.
Wrong on both.
 
With the coaches who actually wanted this job, we weren’t going anywhere.

Which, if people had any self awareness, was exactly what literally everybody outside of the Pitt fan base said would happen.
Wrong on both.

LOL. Mike Lonergan was the only other guy who expressed interest besides Stallings and Knight.

Pretty much every national writer predicted exactly how the search would go as soon as Dixon left.

It was all pretty obvious.
 
LOL. Mike Lonergan was the only other guy who expressed interest besides Stallings and Knight.

Pretty much every national writer predicted exactly how the search would go as soon as Dixon left.

It was all pretty obvious.
Lol wrong
 
LOL. Mike Lonergan was the only other guy who expressed interest besides Stallings and Knight.

Pretty much every national writer predicted exactly how the search would go as soon as Dixon left.

It was all pretty obvious.
Lol wrong

Okay, I’ll humor you, can’t wait to fire Stallings and see the long list of coaches clamoring for the first interview.

I’m sure we won’t wind up with some low major lottery ticket like Joe Dooley or a 2nd tier mid major coach like Mark Schmidt or Kevin Willard or a retread/damaged goods coach like Thad Matta (who, it was reported, struggled with recruiting late at Ohio St because coaches used his health problems against him).

I bet we couldn’t get Pat Chambers to take this job unless he was on the verge of getting fired from PSU.
 
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The original post was Zeise tweet being quoted.
It’s literally in the actual post.
That’s right-the link to the following tweet was in fact contained in the OP: Incidentally, I’m not saying I agree with this:

If he doesn't win, it's not going to be because he's not a good coach. It's going to be because he doesn't have good enough players... anybody who doesn't think he's not a good coach doesn't know anything about basketball." -- Dambrot on Kevin Stallings
 
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