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Joey. “ toast” Porter

conner heyward "not pleased." Derrick Watt "Gathering facts."
ha I'm with you on Derrick Watt. Total waste of a roster spot. Heyward showed some promise last year, though, which isn't often the case with guys you take in the 7th round. Now that the Steelers have Washington, I could see Canada using him how he used George Aston at Pitt.
 
I was intrigued at seasons end with clever plays involving Heyward. He is undersized and not particularly fast but shows good hands and a knack to make plays. The taking of Washington last night might impair his potential going forward though. And Washington looks like a bonafide maniac so I don’t want anything keeping him off the field, sorry Cam.

The other Watt is utterly worthless and it is painfully obvious it’s totally nepotism, but… that’s the way of the world

Washington will be TE1 soon enough.
 
Well the Stillers are pretty happy with what they got out of Watt in his time here, and Heyward looks like he's going to justify his selection, so if that's your point maybe the Stillers should draft (although they didn't draft Watt) all nepotism players?

In reality, aren't Heyward and Watt examples of guys who had a name but were productive in any event?
They are happy at what they got out of watt? 4m for nothing is not a good return.
 
Derrick Watt will be on the staff soon. My bold prediction.
 
Washington will be TE1 soon enough.
I hope so, I have no issue with Muth and clearly Pickett developed a connection with him (maybe too much). The other receivers that sucked and Canada’s reluctance to make better use of Harris in the passing game until late in the season, made that a necessity than a preference IMO. But Muth not a difference maker, he’s aggressive but too small, not dynamic enough, not much of a catch and run threat. He’s at least one tier below the really good TEs. More is needed there.

Wash might be considered too big coming in (not sure why else he lasted so long?) and I hope that doesn’t automatically trigger Tomlin to merely replace Gentry with Wash and give him the same 5 token blocking plays per game. Would be a waste of abilities.

This team with all its offseason moves still didn’t get a clear stud #1 WR to replace the clear failure that is Diontae “retreat behind the first down sticks” Johnson… they need someone else to put fear into opposing DC. Maybe Wash can be that. He can’t stretch the field but maybe he can accomplish similar by tearing up the field. Someone needs to be a difference maker.
 
I hope so, I have no issue with Muth and clearly Pickett developed a connection with him (maybe too much). The other receivers that sucked and Canada’s reluctance to make better use of Harris in the passing game until late in the season, made that a necessity than a preference IMO. But Muth not a difference maker, he’s aggressive but too small, not dynamic enough, not much of a catch and run threat. He’s at least one tier below the really good TEs. More is needed there.

Wash might be considered too big coming in (not sure why else he lasted so long?) and I hope that doesn’t automatically trigger Tomlin to merely replace Gentry with Wash and give him the same 5 token blocking plays per game. Would be a waste of abilities.

This team with all its offseason moves still didn’t get a clear stud #1 WR to replace the clear failure that is Diontae “retreat behind the first down sticks” Johnson… they need someone else to put fear into opposing DC. Maybe Wash can be that. He can’t stretch the field but maybe he can accomplish similar by tearing up the field. Someone needs to be a difference maker.

His knee was swollen at the combine so alot of teams took him off of their boards.

Freiermuth is a solid TE2.
 
Well the Stillers are pretty happy with what they got out of Watt in his time here, and Heyward looks like he's going to justify his selection, so if that's your point maybe the Stillers should draft (although they didn't draft Watt) all nepotism players?

In reality, aren't Heyward and Watt examples of guys who had a name but were productive in any event?
Just waiting for the comments when they draft Nate Herbig’s brother out of Wisconsin today.
 
That’s weird.

But, part of me hopes that the Porter house wonders if he would have been a first rounder playing for Narduzzi instead.
Why would they wonder that? All due respect to coach Duzz, but Porter was just drafted higher than any Pitt DBs have been taken under Narduzzi.
 
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Why would they wonder that? All due respect to coach Duzz, but Porter was just drafted higher than any Pitt DBs have been taken under Narduzzi.
You’re probably right but that’s my hope. It’s not like partridge coaches the DB’s. The Porters failed with their goal and I hope they question playing at PSU. They likely don’t though.
 
conner heyward "not pleased." Derrick Watt "Gathering facts."
They weren't 2nd rd picks with consensus 1st rd grades. Very different.
There's some nepotism but not with a pick like this. And I saw Khan and Weidl fingerprints all over this draft.
Maybe Tomlin pulled a lil bit. But they took him at a value spot
 
Porter is solid. He has plus size for a corner and decent speed as well as long arms. He should be a pretty good bump and run corner that can match up against the other teams best outside guy. If your looking for position flexibility or a good slot corner, Porter is not your guy.
 
ha I'm with you on Derrick Watt. Total waste of a roster spot. Heyward showed some promise last year, though, which isn't often the case with guys you take in the 7th round. Now that the Steelers have Washington, I could see Canada using him how he used George Aston at Pitt.
I agree about watt
 
I hope so, I have no issue with Muth and clearly Pickett developed a connection with him (maybe too much). The other receivers that sucked and Canada’s reluctance to make better use of Harris in the passing game until late in the season, made that a necessity than a preference IMO. But Muth not a difference maker, he’s aggressive but too small, not dynamic enough, not much of a catch and run threat. He’s at least one tier below the really good TEs. More is needed there.

Wash might be considered too big coming in (not sure why else he lasted so long?) and I hope that doesn’t automatically trigger Tomlin to merely replace Gentry with Wash and give him the same 5 token blocking plays per game. Would be a waste of abilities.

This team with all its offseason moves still didn’t get a clear stud #1 WR to replace the clear failure that is Diontae “retreat behind the first down sticks” Johnson… they need someone else to put fear into opposing DC. Maybe Wash can be that. He can’t stretch the field but maybe he can accomplish similar by tearing up the field. Someone needs to be a difference maker.
What about Pickens?
 
They weren't 2nd rd picks with consensus 1st rd grades. Very different.
There's some nepotism but not with a pick like this. And I saw Khan and Weidl fingerprints all over this draft.
Maybe Tomlin pulled a lil bit. But they took him at a value spot
I don’t think the Steelers are the only team where nepotism occasionally factors in roster decisions either. Just look at our old friend Ben Dinucci with the Cowboys or Jim Kelly’s jerkoff nephew having a multi-year career.
 
I don’t think the Steelers are the only team where nepotism occasionally factors in roster decisions either. Just look at our old friend Ben Dinucci with the Cowboys or Jim Kelly’s jerkoff nephew having a multi-year career.
Yeah for loser players it makes sense.
 
That's not really answering the question. Did he even redirect once in press?

The bigger concern is pedst (porter) played against only 2 above average passing offenses so we have no clue how he will perform against good passing offenses.
The first answer is "yes."

The 2nd part of that answer is the goal of press isn't necessarily to "redirect." You have to know the coverage called in order understand what the goal of press is. PITT's corners are taught a "shadow press".

In terms of facing good or not so good passing offenses. Joey got a lot of buzz with NFL scouts when they were looking at Jahan Dotson.
 
The bigger concern is pedst (porter) played against only 2 above average passing offenses so we have no clue how he will perform against good passing offenses.
Well the Bengals just took a kid that caught 12 passes for 153 yards and a TD against PSU last year. So there is that.
 
Ha well, the Steelers drafting Nick Herbig is definitely a W in the column for those here who argue they are obsessed with family ties. That’s said, it seems like most outside observers are high on him.
 
Ha well, the Steelers drafting Nick Herbig is definitely a W in the column for those here who argue they are obsessed with family ties. That’s said, it seems like most outside observers are high on him.
I definitely feel we love "pedigree"
 
im usually like this but im coming around. I actually like MUth. i hated jesse james more than life itself, when he was a steeler, i actually wanted a bad knee injury every time he caught the ball.

with that said, i dont love the J Peezy Jr pick but im rooting for him, mainly because he will be starter from day one and if he sucks, we are in big trouble.

Plus, i saw how psu and wvu (steeler fans) rooted against Pickett and it annoyed the hell out of me and i dont want to be that guy..
I got news for you. Rooting for Jesse James to have a bad knee injury every time he caught the ball makes you WORSE than the guy you say you don't want to be.
 
Trying to recall Steeler CB picks higher than Porter at 32

Woodson. One of the greatest Steeler picks ever.

Deon Figures.....bust

Artie Burns......bum....

I miss anyone? CB's picked higher than Porter?
 
I mean I can’t stand them either. For many reasons. But the crying around this one is beyond.

SMF’s statement above is epic. Rooting against a team you supposedly like.

I dont like the Steelers that much. I will root for the Steelers offense and for Porter to give up TDs like its going out of style.
 
Yeah, on obvious tight formation running plays. Otherwise…..No. Your B10 bias in clouding your judgement.

But in any case, the one key with Washington is him being past the injury issues.

Freiermuth can't block and seems to get concussed way too much. I would have taken Mayer at 32 for the same reasons.
 
Trying to recall Steeler CB picks higher than Porter at 32

Woodson. One of the greatest Steeler picks ever.

Deon Figures.....bust

Artie Burns......bum....

I miss anyone? CB's picked higher than Porter?
No, I can’t. I can think of a couple others who were 2nd rounders I believe. Delton Hall and Ricardo Coclough.
 
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