sure it is when people want to play the card that he wasn't the "best" defensive player in the CFB. I really don't know nor do I care if he was the "best". But, I saw him play maybe 2x this year and he looked like an absolute freak that teams couldn't block. The NFL guys seem to think he's pretty good.
Kenny had a great body of work for the whole season. All they talked about and showed was one running play. He’s a quarterback, show and discuss his passing!
nah, just proves that everyone voted for the kid with the best overall stats who played a better schedule and beat better teams. Jeez, the kid threw for over 400 yards against the number one team in the country (ranking and defense) on the last day before the ballots were due coming a week after he engineered a 97 yard drive in the closing seconds to get his team the point where it is today, ie #1 playing for the national championship....this is somehow to be ignored and is indicative of what you call biased "popularity". Odd that this bias did not come to light with Addison.
I am not implying conspiracy. Just stating that he was in 3rd place by a distance when the site refused to work
Kenny did more with less talent surrounding him. Bamas OL is better than some NFL teams.. Comprehend???
Sure I comprehend...Comprehend the irrelevance in it. So, this kid putting up the best numbers against the best competition in the biggest of moments must be dispensed with ??? (love the three question marks, adds to the point being made)... Somehow the metric here is "sorry Young, we feel Pickett was left with this unbelievable empty cupboard (ignore that Biletnikoff winner behind the curtain--weird he was able to beat out a kid from Bama based on, wait for it, his better stat production) and although did not play your schedule and was on a team in a lesser conference and lost to a MAC team and had stats lesser than yours he should get the award based on that and the fact that Alabama has great players.....
For sake of discussion only, put Pickett at Bama and Young at Pitt this year. Would Pitt have won the conference? How would Bama have faired?
Your dense, the award should go to the player who means the most to his team with skill as well leadership. Kenny exemplifies what the Heisman trophy should mean. JMO
yes, same....my guess is just as good as anyone's within the realm of hypothetical ramblings... this has no bearing on a Heisman ballot..
I assume you mean the same result at both. If this is the case, why wasn't the vote at least closer?
It's ultimately in the hands of the voters. ESPN had pushed the non-offensive skill position player the year before in Orlando Pace. (Pace finished 4th in the voting)
ah, geez, I'm guessing Joe Kowalski from Sioux Falls South Dakota with a Heisman ballot in hand did not have the time or inclination to run through the permutations (don't forget, probably 5 or 6 other switch-o change-o' episodes of Leonard Nimoy's old "What If" show needed to be done with the other Heisman candidates) and just picked the kid who had the best stats ands won the most games against the best teams.
Johnny Majors and JB lost to Paul Hornung which was a total joke.
Going by your logic, Texas Tech and Hawaii quarterbacks should have far more Heisman Trohpies. Kenny also played against the following ranked pass defenses.
All of the other games except the Pac-12 had playoff implications. And the Pac-12 game had no competition on Friday night.
You say “now” like these is some new phenomenon. It’s been this way for 20+ years.
Yeah ok Stat guy meaning Ware was on a 10-2 team that really didn't play good competition back then.
Ok Mr. “browse through schools listed on Heisman winners without any other reference to try and make a point.”
I didn't browse through Peter Parker I knew about Andre Ware etc. But keep at it your doing great 👍
Yeah, the Heisman voters are likely some of the same people that do pre-season AP polls. I didn't have much hope KP could win. I was a little shocked he finished third but It's fine.
I agree that Hutchinson shouldn't have even been on the Heisman ballot, let alone the #2 vote getter. I would say the same about the other 2 defensive guys on the ballot, especially Davis, who's a two down player and comes off the field in any obvious passing situation. This part, however, you have wrong:
