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looks like a new verbal

Did anybody here get his specific measurables and see him go thru a workout? I have seen a wide range listed on him. If he indeed just hit or is going thru a growth spurt, then that could explain why some big names have not offered. There is a big difference between 6-0 and 6-3, 190lbs and 210lbs, and 4.5 and 4.85 speed.
I saw him work out and laser timed his 40 but the Pitt staff has asked me to keep these numbers quit.

Obviously, I'm just kidding. All we can go by is what reporters report and what any of us see if we have seen him play.
 
I saw him work out and laser timed his 40 but the Pitt staff has asked me to keep these numbers quit.

Obviously, I'm just kidding. All we can go by is what reporters report and what any of us see if we have seen him play.
That is exactly my point. The staff saw him in person twice recently and offered, so it is not like they offered a prospect at the last second to fill a quota. I do not have a feel for how he will turn out, but the staff likes him.
 
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Absolutely not true in the least. Who do.you kmow "passed over him?" And you think those schools offer many 3 star recruits 2 years before loi day? Really??? I honestly have never seen that. Very very few offers go.to the 2 3 star kids from mega Powers long before their senior years. If they did you'd have lots more 3 star kids verballing to those schools
Absolutely not true? The kid has 5 SR teammates rated 4 stars or better and had 2 more last year. Teams have watched games, film, and visited. He has been passed over by many. That isn't opinion. Hopefully our coach/coaches did a better job of evaluating him than almost all of the other P5 teams.

Top programs do not wait for Rivals ratings to offer kids. That is an absolutely idiotic insinuation. They have 3 times the support staff watching film of kids and evaluating.

You are the most miserable, negative, Yinzer mope ever.

I bet you don't invited to many parties....honestly... a kid commits and you can do is talk shit on him. WTF is wrong with you?
I am not being negative at all. It is just so funny to see the same people (9nationalchamps and Teh Teh are classic cases) criticize PSU and other schools/fans for pumping up average or "coach trust" kids and then doing the exact same thing for our kids. This is 100% a situation where many other schools have passed and we didn't. Hopefully CPN is right. Simple as that. He didn't find him because the kid is at a school that has as much exposure as you could possibly ask for. Hopefully he just saw something others missed and we hold and benefit.

I haven't talked shit on him at all. I am being honest, while guys like 9nationalchamps are flat out lying. I am comfortable with having some guys like that, who you trust the staff sees something others missed. He is hopefully a good athlete with potential. He was not a star. According to Rivals he was/is (at best) the 15th best 2016 or 2017 prospect at his high school. Seriously. That is how good his high school is at producing talent and how loaded their 2017 class is.
 
That is exactly my point. The staff saw him in person twice recently and offered, so it is not like they offered a prospect at the last second to fill a quota. I do not have a feel for how he will turn out, but the staff likes him.
Exactly. There is no reason to lie, exaggerate, or be exactly the stereotypes these same posters make fun of from the other side.
 
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Uhhh I watched his film and like the way he plays! He started at OLB in one of the best football programs in the country as a junior! What did I "flat out lie" about? Also, I don't ever recall mentioning UPS' recruits. Please point them out.

Absolutely not true? The kid has 5 SR teammates rated 4 stars or better and had 2 more last year. Teams have watched games, film, and visited. He has been passed over by many. That isn't opinion. Hopefully our coach/coaches did a better job of evaluating him than almost all of the other P5 teams.

Top programs do not wait for Rivals ratings to offer kids. That is an absolutely idiotic insinuation. They have 3 times the support staff watching film of kids and evaluating.


I am not being negative at all. It is just so funny to see the same people (9nationalchamps and Teh Teh are classic cases) criticize PSU and other schools/fans for pumping up average or "coach trust" kids and then doing the exact same thing for our kids. This is 100% a situation where many other schools have passed and we didn't. Hopefully CPN is right. Simple as that. He didn't find him because the kid is at a school that has as much exposure as you could possibly ask for. Hopefully he just saw something others missed and we hold and benefit.

I haven't talked shit on him at all. I am being honest, while guys like 9nationalchamps are flat out lying. I am comfortable with having some guys like that, who you trust the staff sees something others missed. He is hopefully a good athlete with potential. He was not a star. According to Rivals he was/is (at best) the 15th best 2016 or 2017 prospect at his high school. Seriously. That is how good his high school is at producing talent and how loaded their 2017 class is.
 
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Also making in-roads at STA. If he blows up, STA grads are true to their commitments....unless you're a QB and Vandy comes calling......;)
 
Uhhh I watched his film and like the way he plays! He started at OLB in one of the best football programs in the country as a junior! What did I "flat out lie" about? Also, I don't ever recall mentioning UPS' recruits. Please point them out.
You said he was a star last year for STA. He is somewhere like the 15th best 2016/2017 recruit for STA. He wasn't and isn't a star for them. To say he was is a lie.

You have been degrading PSU fans for putting down other teams' recruits and pumping up their own for years. Rightfully so, if you are consistent, but you aren't. You are exactly the same. You just choose a different shade of blue and swap white for gold.

He stared at OLB for one of the top programs as a junior.
 
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Haha..... I meant started. I like what I see on film with this kid and I am sticking with that assessment.



You said he was a star last year for STA. He is somewhere like the 15th best 2016/2017 recruit for STA. He wasn't and isn't a star for them. To say he was is a lie.

You have been degrading PSU fans for putting down other teams' recruits and pumping up their own for years. Rightfully so, if you are consistent, but you aren't. You are exactly the same. You just choose a different shade of blue and swap white for gold.
 
Absolutely not true? The kid has 5 SR teammates rated 4 stars or better and had 2 more last year. Teams have watched games, film, and visited. He has been passed over by many. That isn't opinion. Hopefully our coach/coaches did a better job of evaluating him than almost all of the other P5 teams.

Top programs do not wait for Rivals ratings to offer kids. That is an absolutely idiotic insinuation. They have 3 times the support staff watching film of kids and evaluating.


I am not being negative at all. It is just so funny to see the same people (9nationalchamps and Teh Teh are classic cases) criticize PSU and other schools/fans for pumping up average or "coach trust" kids and then doing the exact same thing for our kids. This is 100% a situation where many other schools have passed and we didn't. Hopefully CPN is right. Simple as that. He didn't find him because the kid is at a school that has as much exposure as you could possibly ask for. Hopefully he just saw something others missed and we hold and benefit.

I haven't talked shit on him at all. I am being honest, while guys like 9nationalchamps are flat out lying. I am comfortable with having some guys like that, who you trust the staff sees something others missed. He is hopefully a good athlete with potential. He was not a star. According to Rivals he was/is (at best) the 15th best 2016 or 2017 prospect at his high school. Seriously. That is how good his high school is at producing talent and how loaded their 2017 class is.


Sooooo.... no one you know passed on him??

Chryst offered him, so we beat out a 10 win big 10 team haha

Why retort a message with no mention of that message?
 
Sooooo.... no one you know passed on him??

Chryst offered him, so we beat out a 10 win big 10 team haha

Why retort a message with no mention of that message?
Every P5 program knows of the STA kids and he had teammates who have offers from everyone. They all passed. Not surprised you don't get it.
 
Every P5 program knows of the STA kids and he had teammates who have offers from everyone. They all passed. Not surprised you don't get it.

Like who?? Show me a player ranked below him that has offers from bigger programs? I can't see any, I looked. You can see alabama offer list it's almost all 4 and 5 star kids with a few 3 stars mixed in
 
Like who?? Show me a player ranked below him that has offers from bigger programs? I can't see any, I looked. You can see alabama offer list it's almost all 4 and 5 star kids with a few 3 stars mixed in
Are you this dense? There are many 3 stars with more and better offers, but the point is this kid was seen by every P5 program and passed on. He isn't a guy our staff found. He is a guy our staff is betting they made a better evaluation on after many passed.
 
Are you this dense? There are many 3 stars with more and better offers, but the point is this kid was seen by every P5 program and passed on. He isn't a guy our staff found. He is a guy our staff is betting they made a better evaluation on after many passed.

Are you dense??? Im not, and your point is pointless. You made the allegations you just have absolutely no.data to back out your negativity. You just talk out of your @ss
 
Are you dense??? Im not, and your point is pointless. You made the allegations you just have absolutely no.data to back out your negativity. You just talk out of your @ss
There is no allegation. The kid has had coaches all over his school and offering teammates and they chose not to offer him. So sad you are such a blind homer. You can still be a good Pitt fan and not be exactly like the dumb blind PSU fans you make fun of.
 
There is no allegation. The kid has had coaches all over his school and offering teammates and they chose not to offer him. So sad you are such a blind homer. You can still be a good Pitt fan and not be exactly like the dumb blind PSU fans you make fun of.

Yout are truly ridiculous. Look it's obviously over your head. People are offering and looking at this kid, he is a 3 star which most if teams don't offer at this stage. Go back to your schools board
 
Yout are truly ridiculous. Look it's obviously over your head. People are offering and looking at this kid, he is a 3 star which most if teams don't offer at this stage. Go back to your schools board
Absolutely idiotic statement.
 
If PSU got this kid to verbal, and they were talking him up, these same Homers would be making fun of PSU and the kids lack of big offers. I see it here every week.
 
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