Pitt did plenty with FB. Scrapped the obsolete Stadium, joined the Big East and moved to the ACC. Not exactly treading water.
Lots of chatter FSU & CLEMSON to Big 12
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Like I said, they'd give FSU anything they want. Not so sure about Clemson. But all that does is give FSU leverage because then IF they get out of the GOR, they can take that offer to the B10 and SEC. The B10 will take them. 1 million percent. FSU is playing the B12 and is actually being pretty smart about this. Wished the ACC would just offer them a very unequal amount in exchange for them dropping their suit.
And then the other 16 B12 schools get like a 20% reduced share forever because they sold 20% or whatever it is to the United Arab Emirates to get FSU and Clemson for 6 years. Lets be realistic. This is all just FSU gaining leverage
pittdan77
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I think the assumption that Fox will just dump $1.44 billion and that offsets the PE is nothing more than wishful thinking. Besides, if FSU and Clemson are worth that much, they won't want to share that money.
That worked so well for TX and Okie. It is funny that people don't get B12 joke.
Heard KBL is coming back strong. Gonna offer $2B to Conference USA if Pitt and Fresno State join. Source was driving through a tunnel at the time, so more details to follow.
PE firm Big 12 talking to is CVC Capital, based in Luxembourg. Agree is it just FSU leverage.
Not all the PE money will be used for FSU and Clemson. The Big 12 will be using it for their own stuff too. I have no idea on the breakdown.
Maybe but know that the ACC contract is currently way undervalued, probably about $15m per year.
The hilarious thing is that if FSU and Clemson have a higher valuation than Real Madrid and the Yankees as the B12 propagandists would have you believe then why the EFF wouldn't the B10 or SEC come in and grab them? Or ESPN step in and tell the ACC, "hey guys, FSU is worth more than the Yankees, please give them an unequal amount so we dont lose them to Fox. We dont want to compete with 100 million viewers tuning in for the FSU/Houston lidlifter.
Realistic would be calling these fake news stories lunacy, rather than these internet rags running with them like they're scoop.
This we agree on SMF. There is absolutely zero chance FSU and Clemson leave for the B12. Absolutely none. You'd have to be the dumbest person on the planet to believe otherwise. Who is paying this Greg Swaim guy to make up fake news? And how on earth does he get anyone to believe him?
The funny thing is that the ACC contract IS undervalued, and yet it's still worth more than that Big 12 contract that just got signed.
As it should - until brands start leaving. The ACC is the Last of the Mohicans with their brands not in the P2. The 20 year GOR is the reason. The Pac and Big 12 either didn't have a GOR or wasn't long enough for their brands to stay. Eventually, SMU, Cal, and Stanford are going to get full share too.
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pittdan77
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I think my comment whizzed right past you. The number and the premise don't make sense.
How bout this idea for FSU? It sounds nutty but is it nuttier than playing mid-majors in the B12?
The Pac 12:
1. Tell Oregon State and Washington State you are coming and demand a very unequal amount of revenue and will have ALL the say on who gets added:
2. Add Stan, Cal, Utah, Col, Az, ASU, SDSU, SMU in a Western Division
3. FSU, Clem, UNC, UVa, Miami, Lou, GT, VT, NC St, Pitt in an eastern division
You basically get the ACC on the terms you want. Why do I have to be in charge of everything?
The Pac 12:
1. Tell Oregon State and Washington State you are coming and demand a very unequal amount of revenue and will have ALL the say on who gets added:
2. Add Stan, Cal, Utah, Col, Az, ASU, SDSU, SMU in a Western Division
3. FSU, Clem, UNC, UVa, Miami, Lou, GT, VT, NC St, Pitt in an eastern division
You basically get the ACC on the terms you want. Why do I have to be in charge of everything?
Would have been better if you proposed this before Oregon and Washington left. PAC and ACC had a whole year to make it work - and didn't. Why would it work now? I suspect due to the travel costs and large time zone differences, it would limit western vs eastern matchups. So basically, you have 2 separate conferences under one conference name - not really gaining anything.
With this plan, some of the fat has been removed. But some fat has been added (SDSU).
They didn’t make it work- because the b10 was already offering .
Yea but this plan accomplishes a few things for FSU
- unequal revenue which it seems like current B12 members have no issue with
- regional rivals to come with FSU
- trims a ton of fat out (Iowa St, Kansas's, UCF, Cincy, Houston, BYU's weird schedulings, etc)
Lotsa chatter gal gadot and Scarlett Johansson are talking with my
Wife about having a polyamorous relationship .
Wife about having a polyamorous relationship .
Under those circumstances are you okay if colin jost is in the room watching?
Most of you do not negotiate for a living and probably pay sticker price. FSU may end up leaving but Clemson is going nowhere. Even FSU knows that the ACC will negotiate far better terms then the BIG 12 and may receive a payout in the "ballpark" of the Big 10/SEC if they stay with the ACC to the next TV negotiations BUT they see an opportunity to get a better payout now and in the future. I don't fault them...it's not like the ACC is going to throw them out because of it. The streaming wars are dying for sports content. Give it time.
He is obsessed with making his accusations. According to him, nobody here is a Pitt fan other than him.
You’re giving them too much credit
It’s literally a clown college with an idiotic fanbase
Why would they get a payout in that ballpark with the next ACC deal? Unequal revenue sharing?
pittdan77
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I'm hearing that Scarlett Johansson is a lock but she is insisting you take Kathy Bates but that's only if SMF isn't interested.
sad to say, but im still probably doing it.
if kathy brings a sledge hammer and a piece of wood, im changing my mind..
if Scarlett brings a sledge hammer and piece of wood, im strangely even more aroused.
I don't think you understand the demand for sports content. WWE has multi billion dollar deal with Netflix. Imagine access to all ACC sports content for the entire year.
pittdan77
Athletic Director
You have to do the deal when Kathy walks in with the hammer. None of us understand how anyone would even think of doing that deal but you're out there playing chess and we're all just playing checkers.
In the book she chops off his feet and then blow torches them to stop the bleeding
lol, ouch. yeah, i didnt know that. between the two, i'll take the sledge hammer..
pittdan77
Athletic Director
Since I had a couple ankle surgeries recently - that’s not for me .
But, her dogs from the office can watch .
