Marcus Carr

[gary2]

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Adam Zagoria‏Verified account@AdamZagoria 29m29 minutes ago
Pitt PG Marcus Carr is 'keeping all options open' after speaking with new coach Jeff Capel, per his AAU coach @Vi_Massiah. Had heard from a number of schools after obtaining release.

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[Fsgolfdr]

No one on Pitts roster is indispensable , no one including Carr and
Stewart .
A great quote I used a couple of days ago “there’s a lot of
Indispensable people in the graveyard “ no one , especially on this Pitt team that is even close to indispensable !

 

[SoufOaklin4Life]

I said it before
I have Carr as 4th on the list of 4 players worth keeping from the undergrads.
Stewart, brown, Stevenson, and Carr.

 

[Rsross21]

Keeping options open is code for “coach isn’t begging me to stay, so I’m gonna look around for the best fit”.

Nothing wrong with that IMHO but I get the feeling that Capel has his eyes looking elsewhere. Could be wrong but Carr’s words don’t exactly scream “coach needs me and wants me to stay”.

 

[zucca]

Either playing hard to get or Coach told him to follow his instincts (if you want to go, then go).

 

[FireballZ]

If a kid still doesn't want to play for this guy here at Pitt even after being front row at that presser today than we're better off.

 

[SoufOaklin4Life]

He’s a nice combo guard who would be a nice depth guy.

 

[pittzap]

Keeping options open is code for “coach isn’t begging me to stay, so I’m gonna look around for the best fit”.

Nothing wrong with that IMHO but I get the feeling that Capel has his eyes looking elsewhere. Could be wrong but Carr’s words don’t exactly scream “coach needs me and wants me to stay”.

Capel probably didn't kiss his butt. "You are welcome to stay. If you want to leave, I'll get someone else."

 

[DT_PITT]

He’s a nice combo guard who would be a nice depth guy.

I'd much rather keep him that not. He's a legit ACC player, although probably not a top half starter.

 

[SoufOaklin4Life]

I'd much rather keep him that not. He's a legit ACC player, although probably not a top half starter.

Oh , I didn’t mean that as a slight.
He’s an useful player who would be a good 6-7th player off the bench .

Capel clearly values a true point guard.
Carr isn’t that.

 

[pittzap]

Oh , I didn’t mean that as a slight.
He’s an useful player who would be a good 6-7th player off the bench .

Capel clearly values a true point guard.
Carr isn’t that.

Right. He's more of a combo guard.

 

[Parkview57]

I'm hoping Capel gave them a good overview of his program and expectations. I don't know how he may say it but perhaps: " I would like to meet with each of you individually for a good period of time between now and Monday. I ask you to keep your mind and options open until we've met. I know you will need to do what is best for your future. I'll be breaking down your film so i can give you a real good evaluation as to where you fit in. One thing is for sure you have chosen a great university to attend so let that be a factor. My most important goal is to make sure you are real comfortable with whatever decision you make."

 

[Gep Dawg]

I’m interested who stays but I agree there is no one player I would be bummed to lose. Even Stewart despite his lofty stats. The kid can shot but needs to work on other elements of his game. Plus none of these kids have proven they can do it when it matters yet.

 

[Saboteur]

It's a tough position for a player to be put in.

 

[MyNameisJoe]

I'd be surprised if he doesn't come back.

 

[AlFromDadeville]

I am not going to sit here and knock players up one side and down the other for what was a lost season from the start. I don't want to sound like some old hag looking for a reason to complain but I don't think it's all that imperative for Carr to return.

What I mainly cite is I thought guys like Stewart and Brown showed some individual improvement throughout the ACC games whereas I thought Marcus clearly took a step back. Sure coaching (or lack there of) had something to do with that. But I believe there's more talented guards in this league than any other position and it was hard to see him as being elite.

I don't know who we could get to replace him right away. We don't really have anyone on the roster right now to play PG besides him so my guess is Capel wants him back. But he's not a true point and is undersized to be a productive 2 in terms of his scoring.

 

[bwh05]

Honestly I expect Capel to out recruit all these dudes relatively quickly. Carr and a couple others might help us win a few more games in the short term, but I won’t be bursting into tears if any of them end up leaving.

 

[omega]

You went 0 for the ACC, you aren't important enough to the team to act like you aren't committed. If you want to stay, you better get with the program and start working you back side off.

 

[pittzap]

It's a tough position for a player to be put in.

True, but his team was 0-19 last season and he now has a coach who played his position, played for and coached at one of the blue bloods in college basketball. Or he can transfer, leave and sit out a year.

 

[levance2]

Honestly I expect Capel to out recruit all these dudes relatively quickly. Carr and a couple others might help us win a few more games in the short term, but I won’t be bursting into tears if any of them end up leaving.

What these kids should be considering isn’t whether they have a place on next year’s team, but the years after that. I agree that Capel needs to recruit over basically every player he has. It might be in Carr’s interest to market himself now with 3 years left rather than later with only 1-2.

 

[FireballZ]

What these kids should be considering isn’t whether they have a place on next year’s team, but the years after that. I agree that Capel needs to recruit over basically every player he has. It might be in Carr’s interest to market himself now with 3 years left rather than later with only 1-2.

Sweet, so I guess we get to hear you complain about and hate on any retained Stallings' players for the next 3-4 years now that Stallings' himself is gone. Your agenda is so tired.

 

[Pitt79]

Honestly I expect Capel to out recruit all these dudes relatively quickly. Carr and a couple others might help us win a few more games in the short term, but I won’t be bursting into tears if any of them end up leaving.

This is why I'm excited about the Capel hire. College sports are weird, to me, being a good recruiter matters more than coaching the actual games. If Capel is looking at Carr and saying, "Stay, Go, do what you want" then that tells me Capel thinks it's not hard to do better and that's what kind of coach I want. GETTING TALENT is more important than having a good system.

 

[recruitsreadtheseboards]

I said it before
I have Carr as 4th on the list of 4 players worth keeping from the undergrads.
Stewart, brown, Stevenson, and Carr.

I have him 3rd on that list with Stevenson behind him. But that is the list of 4 I would keep too from the undergrads. Well and Ellison too.

 

[FreeportPanther]

For a Pitt analogy, albeit a weak one, remember when Walt Harris took over the pathetic Pitt football team.
He took Pete Gonzalez and in one year molded him from a Who? to a kid who had a cup of coffee in the NFL.
He took a chicken $hit roster and made chicken salad out of it.
Capel appears to be more than Walt's equal and certainly possesses more charisma, so he may be able to will a few more wins out of this bunch.
I agree with the sentiment above, if Carr sat and listened to this man and thinks he can find a better person to coach him, then Godspeed, Mr. Carr.

 

[levance2]

Sweet, so I guess we get to hear you complain about and hate on any retained Stallings' players for the next 3-4 years now that Stallings' himself is gone. Your agenda is so tired.

I don’t hate any of them. Some of them should be kept, and I personally hope they end up staying their entire careers. But if Carr is here 4 years, he’s going to be playing less and less each season, or else Capel isn’t doing his job. I’m not sure Carr wants to lock himself into an eventual reserve role. If not, then he’s better off, presumably, leaving sooner than later. I see Carr as comparable to Keith Benjamin, who is actually one of my favorite Panthers.

If you had any bit of nuance in your faux outrage, you’d know that I’ve been one of the only consistent supporters of Stevenson. I really hope he stays and gets better development from a new staff. He has the highest ceiling of any of our returning freshmen, IMO. It did not seem to me that KS put much effort into refining his game, and his minutes were very unpredictable.

 

[Fsgolfdr]

Our new coach looks like I’m going to tell you the way I see it kind of guy . Maybe Marcus didn’t like what he heard , after all Pitt did play Duke twice this yr so Jeff doesn’t need extensive film study to know Pitts players abilities . Or just maybe Marcus just wants to see what’s out there for him .

 

[sonofabit]

If you listened to the press conference you'll remember how blunt Capel was in recalling his initial evaluation of the VCU personnel. He will show any uncommitted soul the door quickly.

 

[rmf05]

Maybe he was told that an effort was in the works to bring in a grad transfer to take some minutes at PG to lessen his load and allow him to fill that combo spot? Who knows? I'd like to see him back but Capel's track record indicates that if he leaves, something better should be in the pipeline pretty quickly. Personally, I'd love to see that frosh class walk off the court relatively in tact, in their final game at Pitt as Tourney participants. Sure, a couple of guys clearly seem like reaches at this level but 4-5 could end up being solid contributors ala Ryan Luther.

 

[Parkview57]

Jeff doesn’t need extensive film study to know Pitts players abilities .

"Men, we are going to be all about hard work and precision. As a team we will be accountable to give all we have as coaches and players day by day. One of the great things about the game of basketball is the grind. We will work through it together with great effort as men who in the end can say 'Count on one me.'
By the you were two out of about 37 games we played so I really am not gonna put much effort into your personal situation. 0-19, You are basically the lowest of the low."

I would expect this out of the last regime, not this one.

 

[Atch]

I don’t hate any of them. Some of them should be kept, and I personally hope they end up staying their entire careers. But if Carr is here 4 years, he’s going to be playing less and less each season, or else Capel isn’t doing his job. I’m not sure Carr wants to lock himself into an eventual reserve role. If not, then he’s better off, presumably, leaving sooner than later. I see Carr as comparable to Keith Benjamin, who is actually one of my favorite Panthers.

If you had any bit of nuance in your faux outrage, you’d know that I’ve been one of the only consistent supporters of Stevenson. I really hope he stays and gets better development from a new staff. He has the highest ceiling of any of our returning freshmen, IMO. It did not seem to me that KS put much effort into refining his game, and his minutes were very unpredictable.

Levance.....i have to respectfully disagree with you on Carr and Capel. If Carr improves, it will be because Capel is doing his job by "coaching him up", not by coaching him down.

 

[Jpripper88]

What these kids should be considering isn’t whether they have a place on next year’s team, but the years after that. I agree that Capel needs to recruit over basically every player he has. It might be in Carr’s interest to market himself now with 3 years left rather than later with only 1-2.

He probably isn't going to have many (any?) better options anyway. It isn't like he is going to be an NBA player. I don't think there is anyway we are much better at G next year, so he is going to play here for at least next season and likely 2019-20, too. If he develops he can be an effective player for us, even with over recruiting. If not, he still plays these next two seasons and maybe he can set himself up to grad transfer after that.

 

[PittPanther44]

We’re weighing options too

Seriously Marcus....this is going to be a great program again in 2 years, and you have a chance to be part of a group that brought it back. That’s special. Ask Brandin Knight.

 

[Pitt79]

Levance.....i have to respectfully disagree with you on Carr and Capel. If Carr improves, it will be because Capel is doing his job by "coaching him up", not by coaching him down.

Levance is right! If Capel is living up to what I want, he'll recruit players naturally good enough to make Carr a benchwarmer.

 

[levance2]

Levance.....i have to respectfully disagree with you on Carr and Capel. If Carr improves, it will be because Capel is doing his job by "coaching him up", not by coaching him down.

If Carr graduates as our starting PG then Capel has failed as a recruiter.

 

[joeydavid]

I'm assuming most of who Capel wants to stick around will. Over short term it's Pitt's best shot at near-term improvement.

That said, none of these players signed up to play for him- it's their perogative to look at other options. To hate on a kid for trying to do the best thing for themself is bizarre to me.

Let the process play out. A couple will depart this year; then a few more next season. By season 3 this will be Capel's team.

You went 0 for the ACC, you aren't important enough to the team to act like you aren't committed. If you want to stay, you better get with the program and start working you back side off.

 

[JD1976]

If Carr graduates as our starting PG then Capel has failed as a recruiter.

But doesn't the possibility exist that Carr takes a GLF by the time he's a senior? If he does, it will probably be a huge credit to Capel for helping to develop him.

 

[Fsgolfdr]

Don’t undersell MC , all these freshman were put into a very tough situation . He along with everyone else on the team aren’t indispensable , but as a junior and senior with better players surrounding him he'll be a fine player . I’d rather he stay .

 

[Swervin27]

Carr is very athletic, that's what I like. Yes, he was raw and out of control sometimes but he looked like a guy who can take it to the rim, has some size and muscle to him and very good quickness. I think he'll be a very good one soon enough..

 

[levance2]

But doesn't the possibility exist that Carr takes a GLF by the time he's a senior? If he does, it will probably be a huge credit to Capel for helping to develop him.

Ronald Ramon started 29 games as a sophomore and 0 as a junior. Ronald Ramon was a heck of a college player, but he wasn’t Levance Fields.

 

[JD1976]

Ronald Ramon started 29 games as a sophomore and 0 as a junior. Ronald Ramon was a heck of a college player, but he wasn’t Levance Fields.

You've lost me now. My point is Carr being a starter as a senior doesn't necessarily mean that Capel will have failed. I'd say there's a fair chance Carr could develop into a top-half ACC talent with some maturity and coaching.