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Yeah, you should drop the "just about" in "just about set"... barring any unforeseen situations developing.... like Wilson not being declared eligible through the clearinghouse or something along those lines.
I am just saying that there are no open schollies and no plans that I know of to send anyone packing.
Yeah, if Luther gets RSed he may not like that and may leave. There were rumors towards the end of this past season that he was unhappy about something. Not saying this is gonna happen but it is the only other thing that could happen that is unforeseen that I can think of.
I am just saying that there are no open schollies and no plans that I know of to send anyone packing.
Yeah, if Luther gets RSed he may not like that and may leave. There were rumors towards the end of this past season that he was unhappy about something. Not saying this is gonna happen but it is the only other thing that could happen that is unforeseen that I can think of.
Or, making room for Jonathan Nwanko released by Minnesota if he gets through the clearinghouse eventually?
Quite a few days have passed and still no official announcement from Pitt.
Is there any chance that Odoba is not here next year?
If there were any issue Matt or someone else would have said something. Total silence implies nothing has changed, No news is good news.
Well, worst case scenario.... he doesn't come here (that would be pretty strange being he committed... would probably be something having to do with graduating from Richmond)... Nix or Luther does not get RSed.
Yeah, we would be a lesser team without ANO's experience and skills.
Yeah, we would be a lesser team without ANO's experience and skills.
Hmmm... it is interesting to try and determine how ANO would be used if he indeed is able to make it.
Obviously, Dixon is gonna see how everyone is looking come training camp before making any decisions on rotation.
But, with what we know know, my guess is he will start Maia (C), Young (PF) and Artis (SF) but not go with this lineup that long and in fact sit Maia down early so he can shift Young to C and Artis to PF. So, the question is, when does he bring ANO into the game? And my best guess on that right now is when it comes time to spell Young and Artis he brings Maia back in at C with ANO at PF. Then, when it comes time to bring Young and Artis back in, maybe that is it for the rest of the half.
I would expect that ANO would also spend some time at C but hard to say how much.
Of course there are others that feel that Maia and ANO are gonna handle the C slot with Young playing all his minutes at PF.... but I don't think Young is gonna be as good at PF as he is at C, and my bet is that Artis will be much less of a player at SF than he is at PF.
Then of course there is the fact that, it might be best to have either Young or Artis (at PF) out there all the time so we can have at least one offensive player out there to pair with the more defensively oriented Maia and ANO. This leads to more complicated rotations.... and the expectation is that Dixon will alter the rotation frequently based on the situation... who is making an impact that particular game, etc.
So, hard to say but interesting to speculate.
Obviously, Dixon is gonna see how everyone is looking come training camp before making any decisions on rotation.
But, with what we know know, my guess is he will start Maia (C), Young (PF) and Artis (SF) but not go with this lineup that long and in fact sit Maia down early so he can shift Young to C and Artis to PF. So, the question is, when does he bring ANO into the game? And my best guess on that right now is when it comes time to spell Young and Artis he brings Maia back in at C with ANO at PF. Then, when it comes time to bring Young and Artis back in, maybe that is it for the rest of the half.
I would expect that ANO would also spend some time at C but hard to say how much.
Of course there are others that feel that Maia and ANO are gonna handle the C slot with Young playing all his minutes at PF.... but I don't think Young is gonna be as good at PF as he is at C, and my bet is that Artis will be much less of a player at SF than he is at PF.
Then of course there is the fact that, it might be best to have either Young or Artis (at PF) out there all the time so we can have at least one offensive player out there to pair with the more defensively oriented Maia and ANO. This leads to more complicated rotations.... and the expectation is that Dixon will alter the rotation frequently based on the situation... who is making an impact that particular game, etc.
So, hard to say but interesting to speculate.
Since it's all speculation anyway at this point, IMO Jamie is going to do everything he can to have Young play primarily at PF and Artis primarily at
SF. Defensively, Artis gives up a lot at EITHER position. However on offense, given a motion offense that Jamie can tweak to both players' strengths, it's
easy to move both players in and out of the lane, out to the wing, wide
out along the baseline, and into the high post and even the low post. They both can't be in the same place at the same time obviously, but the options for both are limitless. This would also give the Center (whomever it is of the three) weakside rebounding responsibility and would open the floor up for both Artis and Young.
This wasn't meant to be argumentative, because Zara's post makes a lot of sense...it's just my take on it and another way of looking at things.
SF. Defensively, Artis gives up a lot at EITHER position. However on offense, given a motion offense that Jamie can tweak to both players' strengths, it's
easy to move both players in and out of the lane, out to the wing, wide
out along the baseline, and into the high post and even the low post. They both can't be in the same place at the same time obviously, but the options for both are limitless. This would also give the Center (whomever it is of the three) weakside rebounding responsibility and would open the floor up for both Artis and Young.
This wasn't meant to be argumentative, because Zara's post makes a lot of sense...it's just my take on it and another way of looking at things.
I just think Artis at SF is not going to work.. and the only significance of starting him at SF is to get him into the game at the start and get warmed up in the game. However, I respect your opinion and I am sure Dixon has not made any decisions and things could end up like you say.
However, what I will say here, is if it was ME, starting Maia, Young and Artis.... the player I would sit down early would be YOUNG... moving Artis to PF and bringing in Jeter at SF. Then, when it comes time to sit Maia and Artis, I would bring Young in at C with ANO at PF... and in this case MY would not be worn down at all... almost fresh as a matter of fact... and the idea is he really takes it to whomever he is going up against... typically opposing Cs that have been worn down a bit and MY having a quickness advantage over them to start with. Yeah, could do this with ANO at C and MY at PF.... all depends on how MY is looking against Cs as opposed to PFs.
Yeah, long time before we get to see what Dixon decides.
Another Matt tweet stated Rasheen Davis got Nwankwo to sign for VCU. I didnt realize Davis was there.
Sitting Young at the start...ok that's an interesting take on it. One thing we can agree on is...Jamie has almost limitless options, which he did not have last year, and sitting Young (although I don't see it happening) is another option and your scenario makes some sense.
Assuming two of the three new Centers see playing time...that gives us five guys who can play inside in various combinations....those two plus Young, Artis, and Luther. (You can even add Jeter to this mix).
Four who can play SF...Artis, Jeter, Cam, and Jones. Jones can also play SG and undoubtedly will, hopefully backing up the transfer from Coppin St.
Assuming Newkirk returns healthy he can back up Robinson at PG.
With all this, there are at least three players who could redshirt...Nix, Luther, and Wilson.
This is an incredible amount of depth, and after Young, Artis, and Robinson, there is a lot of similar level talent at Jamie's disposal....maybe not Super Level talent, but decent level talent and numbers. Time will tell what he does with all these pieces.....I hope he's good at chess LOL.
Assuming two of the three new Centers see playing time...that gives us five guys who can play inside in various combinations....those two plus Young, Artis, and Luther. (You can even add Jeter to this mix).
Four who can play SF...Artis, Jeter, Cam, and Jones. Jones can also play SG and undoubtedly will, hopefully backing up the transfer from Coppin St.
Assuming Newkirk returns healthy he can back up Robinson at PG.
With all this, there are at least three players who could redshirt...Nix, Luther, and Wilson.
This is an incredible amount of depth, and after Young, Artis, and Robinson, there is a lot of similar level talent at Jamie's disposal....maybe not Super Level talent, but decent level talent and numbers. Time will tell what he does with all these pieces.....I hope he's good at chess LOL.
Oh, one thing I will say about Artis... IMO he is less of a liability defensively at SF than he is at PF.
At PF, and 6'7" 225... he is a bit undersized for the position and sometimes gets posted up and scored over.
At SF.... he doesn't have the undersized problem and seems to be able to keep up with most of the SFs he comes up against. Would have to see him against better SFs though to have a better feel on this.
So, I don't like starting Artis at PF... because if you have a liability in the starting lineup it is easy for other coaches to plan to take advantage of it.
The problem with Artis at SF, is his offense goes away... completely takes him out of his game.
But, guess we will see how things look when things open up in November.
At PF, and 6'7" 225... he is a bit undersized for the position and sometimes gets posted up and scored over.
At SF.... he doesn't have the undersized problem and seems to be able to keep up with most of the SFs he comes up against. Would have to see him against better SFs though to have a better feel on this.
So, I don't like starting Artis at PF... because if you have a liability in the starting lineup it is easy for other coaches to plan to take advantage of it.
The problem with Artis at SF, is his offense goes away... completely takes him out of his game.
But, guess we will see how things look when things open up in November.
With ANO on board (if he is indeed on board.... if he has to finish up some courses at Richmond to get his degree he may not be at the pro-am)... then IMO Luther almost surely RSs. ANO takes the slot that Luther had and now there is no PT for Luther and he could use an extra year of seasoning.
As far as Wilson is concerned... and again assuming there are no problems with eligibility here.... unless he is totally not ready no way will he get RSed. Newkirk had a bad season last year and now will be coming off of injury so you really need Wilson. Yeah, who spells Robinson is the biggest hole on the team right now... and Dixon was even alluding to Smith playing some at PG.
As far as Artis goes, IMO it's up to Jamie to work the motion offense in such a way that Artis can be effective at SF. The movement that I alluded to in a previous post should take care of this and let him operate effectively both high and low with Young on the floor at PF.
Your comments about Newkirk are so true. I really don't like what I see of him, but he is key to this backcourt. He needs to return injury free, and get back to his previous form. If not, you're right..... Wilson has to play and Jones
will be strictly a SG. We needed a pg in this year's recruiting class. Backcourt
could be a problem.
Your comments about Newkirk are so true. I really don't like what I see of him, but he is key to this backcourt. He needs to return injury free, and get back to his previous form. If not, you're right..... Wilson has to play and Jones
will be strictly a SG. We needed a pg in this year's recruiting class. Backcourt
could be a problem.
I don't know if you can do that with Artis at SF. You would have Maia, Young and Artis all playing inside and it would get pretty crowded. Moving Young to the outside just so Artis can do his thing... is almost like playing Artis at PF and Young... at SF. Don't think that is gonna happen.
Young can hit from the mid-range and even put in a number of 3balls late in the season.... but he is not as good, not as consistent, a shooter as Artis. But, Young is the better post-up scorer.
We will have to see how good MY looks at PF, and how good Artis looks at SF.
But, still my bet (ha... I have changed my opinion on this before and could always change again) is Dixon goes with Maia at C, Young at PF, and Artis at SF, at the start but sits either Maia or Young down early and goes with Maia, Artis and Jeter or Young, Artis and Jeter... and probably not have Maia, Young and Artis out there all at the same time for the rest of the half.
Young can hit from the mid-range and even put in a number of 3balls late in the season.... but he is not as good, not as consistent, a shooter as Artis. But, Young is the better post-up scorer.
We will have to see how good MY looks at PF, and how good Artis looks at SF.
But, still my bet (ha... I have changed my opinion on this before and could always change again) is Dixon goes with Maia at C, Young at PF, and Artis at SF, at the start but sits either Maia or Young down early and goes with Maia, Artis and Jeter or Young, Artis and Jeter... and probably not have Maia, Young and Artis out there all at the same time for the rest of the half.
I should say here.... that as far as guessing what Dixon will do....
Last year he started out with playing Uchebo at C for a short stint at the start of the game with Young starting at PF and Artis starting at SF. When he sat Uchebo down he moved Young to C and played him there for the rest of the game spelled by Randall. But, he was not playing Artis at PF. Instead, he had swapped Jeter and Artis re the positions they had played the previous year and was playing Jeter at PF. Artis, played all his time at SF.
When Wright came back he inserted him into the starting lineup and moved Jones to be the starter at SF and also swapped Artis and Jeter back (Artis to PF and Jeter to SF) saying he was moving Jamel back to 'his natural position', but this was probably as significant to Jeter as it was to Artis. He started Artis at PF and Young at C.
He would spell Young with Randall (or Uchebo) and tried playing Young at PF some but that meant either Randall or Uchebo would have to he in the game and those two were not impressing. So, that didn't work out so well. The most interesting thing he did was try, in the game against Cuse in the dome, sending Uchebo in on defensive possessions and playing him a few possessions then sending Young back in... at various points in the game. This seemed to work real well but for unknown reasons he went away from that.
The problem with playing Young all his time at C was that he was getting worn down... and it was showing on both ends of the court.... but particularly on the defensive end.
The only other major change Dixon made during the course of the season was to move Jeter into the starting lineup and brought Jones off the bench. Jeter, seemed to start slow but then made major impacts in various games in the second half and down the stretch. This change seemed to benefit Jones as well.
So, the question is, with Maia replacing Randall, and ANO (if he makes it) replacing Luther (who played some last year... and Nix replacing Uchebo but I guess will get RSed)... what will Dixon do THIS coming year?
Uh... a lot of people think Artis will be moved to SF but from what happened last year, I don't think that is gonna happen... at least not playing all or most of his minutes there. But, he has got to do something about MY getting worn down by playing C too much and I believe he is well aware of this.
So, I guess we will just have to see how things look when the time comes... and IMO a lot of it will depend on how Young looks at PF when he plays there... and the same re Artis playing at SF.
Last year he started out with playing Uchebo at C for a short stint at the start of the game with Young starting at PF and Artis starting at SF. When he sat Uchebo down he moved Young to C and played him there for the rest of the game spelled by Randall. But, he was not playing Artis at PF. Instead, he had swapped Jeter and Artis re the positions they had played the previous year and was playing Jeter at PF. Artis, played all his time at SF.
When Wright came back he inserted him into the starting lineup and moved Jones to be the starter at SF and also swapped Artis and Jeter back (Artis to PF and Jeter to SF) saying he was moving Jamel back to 'his natural position', but this was probably as significant to Jeter as it was to Artis. He started Artis at PF and Young at C.
He would spell Young with Randall (or Uchebo) and tried playing Young at PF some but that meant either Randall or Uchebo would have to he in the game and those two were not impressing. So, that didn't work out so well. The most interesting thing he did was try, in the game against Cuse in the dome, sending Uchebo in on defensive possessions and playing him a few possessions then sending Young back in... at various points in the game. This seemed to work real well but for unknown reasons he went away from that.
The problem with playing Young all his time at C was that he was getting worn down... and it was showing on both ends of the court.... but particularly on the defensive end.
The only other major change Dixon made during the course of the season was to move Jeter into the starting lineup and brought Jones off the bench. Jeter, seemed to start slow but then made major impacts in various games in the second half and down the stretch. This change seemed to benefit Jones as well.
So, the question is, with Maia replacing Randall, and ANO (if he makes it) replacing Luther (who played some last year... and Nix replacing Uchebo but I guess will get RSed)... what will Dixon do THIS coming year?
Uh... a lot of people think Artis will be moved to SF but from what happened last year, I don't think that is gonna happen... at least not playing all or most of his minutes there. But, he has got to do something about MY getting worn down by playing C too much and I believe he is well aware of this.
So, I guess we will just have to see how things look when the time comes... and IMO a lot of it will depend on how Young looks at PF when he plays there... and the same re Artis playing at SF.
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