Meanwhile, over on the "other" board...

[MartyInLawrenceville]

Sanctions, sanctions, sanctions, sanctions, Pitt stinks, sanctions, sanctions, nobody likes us, sanctions, sanctions, the refs have it in for us, sanctions, sanctions, sanctions, look at all the yellow seats at Heinz, sanctions, sanctions, sanctions, 107K, sanctions, sanctions, Joe didn't know, sanctions, sanctions, sanctions, everybody hates us, sanctions, sanctions, we are great, everybody else wishes they were us, sanctions, sanctions, sanctions...

There, you're pretty much up to date.

As an aside, how many recruiting classes has Pitt lost in the last 5 years because of coaching upheaval? The result of that is kind of like sanctions, isn't it? Geez, nobody on here bitches that it's an unfair playing field cuz of Graham/Hayward/Chryst...

 

[Pittx9]

nobody likes us,

Well, for the first time ever, a poster on BWI spoke the truth. Nobody does like you.

 

[Jakey_John]

Also, they don't care about Pitt but a new thread is started every other day.

 

[MartyInLawrenceville]

Well, for the first time ever, a poster on BWI spoke the truth. Nobody does like you.

Pittx9...I was being sarcastic. Any time PSU loses, it's always cuz of sanctions. Nobody could possibly beat them straight up. Then they throw the Pitt attendance issue up, etc. I swear, at 5PM today, 3 of the first 4 threads over there were about Pitt. But...they're not obsessed with Pitt...riiiiiggghhhhttt... #H2P

 

[Joe the Panther Fan]

Any time PSU loses, it's always cuz of sanctions.

Don't discount the fact that the refs are always out to get them too. That has cost them games for a lot longer than the sanctions have.

 

[Pittx9]

But...they're not obsessed with Pitt...riiiiiggghhhhttt... #H2P

Right. They just carry sports almanacs with them at all times because apparently Joe Paterno liked to carry books around campus. That is how they amazingly know every single stat and drive breakdown from every Pitt game the past 30 years.

You know what... Man, I really do wish we were Penn State. You gotta be pretty smart to know so much about your rivals. Or aren't we rivals?

 

[Pittx9]

Don't discount the fact that the refs are always out to get them too. That has cost them games for a lot longer than the sanctions have.

Well they deserve that. They had their own "team ref" for years at Happy Valley and were awarded victories over the top teams they otherwise would've had no business beating.

 

[MartyInLawrenceville]

Right. They just carry sports almanacs with them at all times because apparently Joe Paterno liked to carry books around campus. That is how they amazingly know every single stat and drive breakdown from every Pitt game the past 30 years.

You know what... Man, I really do wish we were Penn State. You gotta be pretty smart to know so much about your rivals. Or aren't we rivals?

Remember, rivals or not...they don't need Pitt, WVU, or apparently anybody except their delusional selves...

 

[Pittx9]

Remember, rivals or not...they don't need Pitt, WVU, or apparently anybody except their delusional selves...

Idk sounds like they miss JoePa. They may need him. Otherwise they just looked like idiots burning down their campus when he was fired.

Actually I'm sorry that's irrelevant, they already did look idiots that night.

 

[ratking17]

The refs are out to get them because they are jealous of psu. That one is a favorite of mine.

I also love how they compare "classy" coaches to joe. They fail to recall classy joe let a child rapist free for over a decade. True class there

 

[Pittx9]

The refs are out to get them because they are jealous of psu.

Hahahahaha. Why would a ref be jealous of a college football team? Unless they wanted a special office where they could freely bring in little boys, that literally makes zero sense at all. They probably just hate Penn State because Guman was the biggest disgrace in the history of officiating and they want to show Penn State will not get every single call anymore.

 

[billyberoux]

Hahahahaha. Why would a ref be jealous of a college football team? Unless they wanted a special office where they could freely bring in little boys, that literally makes zero sense at all. They probably just hate Penn State because Guman was the biggest disgrace in the history of officiating and they want to show Penn State will not get every single call anymore.

I have to give them credit, they came up with a new excuse yesterday - the pedders new whine is they had to play 10 consecutive games without benefit of a bye week. Apparently this wasn't their own fault as somehow someone else has control of their OOC schedule. Bunch of whiny d#m%f*c(s.

 

[Pittx9]

I have to give them credit, they came up with a new excuse yesterday - the pedders new whine is they had to play 10 consecutive games without benefit of a bye week. Apparently this wasn't their own fault as somehow someone else has control of their OOC schedule. Bunch of whiny d#m%f*c(s.

I saw that as well and that is just too funny. For one, I would hardly consider 90% of those "games" games, they were more like glorified exhibitions. Secondly, they barely ever play a game outside of PA so while playing that many weeks in a row could be a disadvantage, they got a much bigger gift by rarely traveling for games.

 

[MartyInLawrenceville]

Don't forget...some of those games it...GASP...rained!!!

 

[Pittx9]

Don't forget...some of those games it...GASP...rained!!!

It's raining men... Hallelujah!!!

 

[MartyInLawrenceville]

It's raining men... Hallelujah!!!

You win Sunday!!

 

[Pittx9]

You win Sunday!!

Thank you, thank you. I'll be signing autographs at 9.

 

[CaptainSidneyReilly]

The refs are out to get them because they are jealous of psu. That one is a favorite of mine.

I also love how they compare "classy" coaches to joe. They fail to recall classy joe let a child rapist free for over a decade. True class there

Joe had practice on keeping silent on corruption.....Joe for years was silent about Ref Guman actually being named a Ref in game was that included his son and Joe had a role in choosing the Refs. Bama went public with nit and SEC and all Conferences changed the ref rules that you cannot be named a Ref if you are related or even friends of players in the game! Even after it came out, Joe continued to use Ref Guman since Independents had no such Rules until other Programs said, they won't play if Guman is one of the Refs, no more Bad Calls against PSU opponents. Guman retired in disgraced.

Joe later cried like a baby when Michigan and some Big ten Refs were doing the same to him and I admit they were to be fair, but what goes around comes around.

Funny Investigators did not see that kind of Paterno Past Practice of being silent when Ref Guman was cheating for his Teams, and his Players were being arrested and it was being covered up? The Penn State Pattern And Practice Of Covering Up Cheating & Crimes Football Culture!

LINK To ARTICLE BACKING UP MY POINT:

NEW YORK TIMES PATERNO REF GUMAN ARTICLE LINK


http://www.nytimes.com/2002/10/19/s...no-got-his-share-of-calls-over-the-years.html


ON COLLEGE FOOTBALL; Paterno Got His Share Of Calls Over the Years
By JOE DRAPE
Published: October 19, 2002


Anyone who saw an agitated Joe Paterno run down Referee Dick Honig after an overtime loss to Iowa earlier this season can attest to the excellent fitness of the Penn State coach at age 75. Anyone who has watched the Nittany Lions' souped-up offense this season knows the coach's mind for football is as sharp and modern as ever.


But after this week's skirmish with the Big Ten Conference over officiating -- specifically, how Paterno suspects Penn State is being persecuted by inept or, worse, by biased referees -- it is clear that he is afflicted with a malady common to his profession: selective memory.


Younger and far less accomplished coaches have exhibited this trait. Still, it is surprising that on his way to winning a Division I-A record 331 games, Paterno has forgotten that old saw about how calls have a way of evening out over the course of a game, a season and a career.


All he needs to do is flip through his scrapbook to be reminded of how a questionable judgment by an official here and a fluttering yellow flag there have returned him and his team to the locker room for a postgame celebration instead of on a mad dash to corral and complain to an official.


There are even familiar elements in Paterno's recent semi-rants.


The coach was so unhappy with the officiating last week at Michigan, where Penn State incurred its second overtime loss of the season, that he suggested that three of the officials were homers because they lived in the Wolverines' home state. This echoes back to 1969, when Penn State, amid a 23-game unbeaten streak, was down, 14-0, at Syracuse in the fourth quarter. A pass interference call against the Orangemen set up a Nittany Lion touchdown, but Paterno's team then appeared to fail in an attempt for a 2-point conversion. But it got a second chance after Syracuse was called for holding. Penn State made the conversion and went on to win, 15-14.


The week after, Ben Schwartzwalder, then the Syracuse coach, told reporters that officiating had cost his team the game and pointed out that three of the officials lived in Pennsylvania.


Then there are the Guman affairs -- as in Referee Don Guman.


He is the father of the former Nittany Lion Mike Guman and the grandfather of the current Penn State defensive back Andrew Guman, and he twice came under fire for officiating Penn State games in which the calls, well, went Paterno's way.


The first incident occurred in 1982, when the Nittany Lions defeated Maryland, 39-31, in a game that incensed Terrapins Coach Bobby Ross. Late in the game, Ross ran onto the field screaming that Penn State had 12 men on the field when Maryland punted.


Guman penalized Ross 15 yards for unsportsmanlike conduct. At the conclusion of Penn State's ensuing 60-yard scoring drive, Guman made another pivotal decision. He ruled Penn State's Kenny Jackson had, indeed, held on to a touchdown pass, which Ross and the Maryland faithful believed had been jarred loose by a hard hit before Jackson had possession.


More memorable perhaps was the presence of Guman the next season on the crew that officiated Penn State's 34-28 defeat of Alabama at Beaver Stadium in State College, Pa. On the next-to-last play of the game, Crimson Tide tight end Preston Gothard appeared to catch a touchdown pass, potentially the game-winner, before falling out of the end zone.


But officials ruled that Gothard did not have possession. Guman did not make that call, but Alabama fans have forever felt robbed, especially because in the week before the game, Ray Perkins, then the coach of the Crimson Tide, had asked that Guman be replaced because his son played for the Nittany Lions.


The roll call of fortuitous calls in Penn State's favor goes on and on.


ON COLLEGE FOOTBALL; Paterno Got His Share Of Calls Over the Years
Published: October 19, 2002

(Page 2 of 2)


Pittsburgh fans believe Elliott Walker crossed a snowy goal line for what would have been the tying 2-point conversion in the final seconds of their 1977 game. Instead, the Nittany Lions held on, 15-13. The Nebraska faithful believe they were undone in a 27-24 loss in 1982 by a controversial catch by Penn State tight end Mike McCloskey. They swear he was out of bounds.


Here are a couple more recent nuggets to digest. The Nittany Lions are the least-penalized team in the Big Ten this season; they were the least-penalized team in the conference last season; and in 2000, they were whistled the second-fewest times.


It kind of makes you wonder why the venerable Paterno is getting all ''X-Files'' about his team's recent spate of questionable officiating calls. Earlier this week, he insisted that he was trying not to get ''paranoid'' about it, then offered up more half-baked theories about referees who happened to be Michiganders.





No doubt there may be some positives resulting from Paterno's outburst. Other coaches in the Big Ten have said officiating so far this season has been subpar, and the conference commissioner, Jim Delany, has said he will consider using instant replay to settle disputes, perhaps as early as next season.


There is also perhaps some old-fashioned working of the officials involved, with the crafty Paterno making the men in stripes think twice when the next close call comes.


But whether Paterno is an icon or not, Delany suggested that the old coach was close to crossing the line by ''imputing bad intentions'' of Big Ten officials.


Neither Paterno nor the Nittany Lions are the victims of a conspiracy -- all they have to do is check their scrapbooks. The truth is in there.

 

[chethejet]

PSU fans are banking on recruiting to become "elite". It doesn't work that way. PSU has a decided advantage in recruiting and no one disputes that. But against like and kind programs. PSU presently is at least 3 to 4 TD's inferior to the top programs. You don't make that up in recruiting alone. Secondly, Franklin has yet to show he can coach in that league. The recruiting looks good but you think ND, and other programs just stop? It will be a while until PSU can compete with the top tier programs.

When the so called turn around comes in 2017 as the nits believe, they face a schedule that looks to be much tougher and could lose 5 games in the break out year. The truth is; THEY ARE.....DELUSIONAL.

 

[Pittx9]

PSU fans are banking on recruiting to become "elite". It doesn't work that way. PSU has a decided advantage in recruiting and no one disputes that. But against like and kind programs. PSU presently is at least 3 to 4 TD's inferior to the top programs. You don't make that up in recruiting alone. Secondly, Franklin has yet to show he can coach in that league. The recruiting looks good but you think ND, and other programs just stop? It will be a while until PSU can compete with the top tier programs.

When the so called turn around comes in 2017 as the nits believe, they face a schedule that looks to be much tougher and could lose 5 games in the break out year. The truth is; THEY ARE.....DELUSIONAL.

My all-time favorite is people saying they are "victims" of the most crippling sanctions ever handed down. For one, considering what happened they got barely a slap on the wrist. Secondly, you have to be the dumbest person alive to believe that. How is that more crippling than SMU? SMU was a power and it took them damn near 30 years to recover from the death penalty. Really a shame because if that never happens and the NCAA realized how much that crippled SMU, it sounded like Penn State was definitely going to get it.

 

[CaptainSidneyReilly]

My all-time favorite is people saying they are "victims" of the most crippling sanctions ever handed down. For one, considering what happened they got barely a slap on the wrist. Secondly, you have to be the dumbest person alive to believe that. How is that more crippling than SMU? SMU was a power and it took them damn near 30 years to recover from the death penalty. Really a shame because if that never happens and the NCAA realized how much that crippled SMU, it sounded like Penn State was definitely going to get it.

The schedule was set Post Sanctions and created to play lightweights based on 5 Years of Sanctions. They also made sure the Team has 2 weeks to prepare for Michigan at home and MSU right afterwards.

They like Pitt and WVU are just an average to good Team but none have beaten a Top Ranked Team this year?

Penn State Cultists blames everyone except NCAA, Trustees, Freeh, Coaches, except Paterno that actuially was part anmd caused many Reforms he was not following all the rules, regulations and laws?

Pitt has had a problem with Coaching Changes that killed off Recruiting Classes and would not support a Program that overpaid Pederson for mediocre management with $5 Million buyout that rewarded him leaving Pitt with $7 million deficit?

WVU has a problem with the Big-12 Conference problems and Coach Holgrosen inability to beat Elite Big-12 Programs?

We need to play each other every year to grow and get better together, but only the Cultists, Pitt Pitters, and WVU MountainBeers fans can't see it?

All 3 Programs are getting closer to the Top 25 but still not there?

 

[rpost3]

I was surprised McAndrew accidentally posted a link to a swingers site last year. I expected him to prefer children.

 

[depthchartjustice]

Sanctions, sanctions, sanctions, sanctions, Pitt stinks, sanctions, sanctions, nobody likes us, sanctions, sanctions, the refs have it in for us, sanctions, sanctions, sanctions, look at all the yellow seats at Heinz, sanctions, sanctions, sanctions, 107K, sanctions, sanctions, Joe didn't know, sanctions, sanctions, sanctions, everybody hates us, sanctions, sanctions, we are great, everybody else wishes they were us, sanctions, sanctions, sanctions...

There, you're pretty much up to date.

As an aside, how many recruiting classes has Pitt lost in the last 5 years because of coaching upheaval? The result of that is kind of like sanctions, isn't it? Geez, nobody on here bitches that it's an unfair playing field cuz of Graham/Hayward/Chryst...

I see very little discussion about Pitt on the other board, to be honest. I came here for some. Let me give you a little example regarding the sanctions that is hard for Pitt fans to think thru. If Pitt were sanctioned, you would not have Boyd, Conner, Holtz, Dorian Johnson, and probably quite a few others. Do you really think they would have committed to Pitt when Pitt could not go to a bowl game? No way they do and a few of them were committed to Penn State prior to the sanctions, so imagine your team that has gone 24-24 without sanctions and imagine what it would have been like without those 4 players. Then, imagine having less scholarship players. So, no Pitt losing a few coaches was not just like the sanctions...only a homer would think that. If I were a Pitt fan, I'd be concentrating on seeing Pitt have a better record than PEnn State for once during these sanctions. This year seemed like the best opportunity and they are letting it go by the way side.

 

[9nationalchampionships]

Exactly! Don’t let your coach rape you boys and if one does, report him to the law as soon as possible. Really pretty simple and I don’t feel we have anything to worry about.

I see very little discussion about Pitt on the other board, to be honest. I came here for some. Let me give you a little example regarding the sanctions that is hard for Pitt fans to think thru. If Pitt were sanctioned, you would not have Boyd, Conner, Holtz, Dorian Johnson, and probably quite a few others. Do you really think they would have committed to Pitt when Pitt could not go to a bowl game? No way they do and a few of them were committed to Penn State prior to the sanctions, so imagine your team that has gone 24-24 without sanctions and imagine what it would have been like without those 4 players. Then, imagine having less scholarship players. So, no Pitt losing a few coaches was not just like the sanctions...only a homer would think that. If I were a Pitt fan, I'd be concentrating on seeing Pitt have a better record than PEnn State for once during these sanctions. This year seemed like the best opportunity and they are letting it go by the way side.

 

[depthchartjustice]

Exactly! Don’t let your coach rape you boys and if one does, report him to the law as soon as possible. Really pretty simple and I don’t feel we have anything to worry about.

When Pitt fans can't win an argument or have nothing to back up their team, they resort to talking about Child rape to someone who had nothing to do with it and act like there is something they could have done. You're pathetic. Everyone involved is dead or in jail. Talk football and quit taking the easy way out.

 

[9nationalchampionships]

You brought up sanctions and I was just letting you know that sanctions CAN be avoided.

When Pitt fans can't win an argument or have nothing to back up their team, they resort to talking about Child rape to someone who had nothing to do with it and act like there is something they could have done. You're pathetic. Everyone involved is dead or in jail. Talk football and quit taking the easy way out.

 

[depthchartjustice]

You brought up sanctions and I was just letting you know that sanctions CAN be avoided.

I must say my favorite post of yours all time was when you posted on BWI this year stating how explosive Pitt's offense Pitt has been in the past ten games then proceeded to post scores the other team had against your shitty defense!!!!

 

[9nationalchampionships]

Actually nit wit you are wrong but I will give you another try to figure it out…..

BTW, which prestigious Ped St branch campus did you attend?

I must say my favorite post of yours all time was when you posted on BWI this year stating how explosive Pitt's offense Pitt has been in the past ten games then proceeded to post scores the other team had against your shitty defense!!!!

 

[depthchartjustice]

Actually nit wit you are wrong but I will give you another try to figure it out…..

BTW, which prestigious Ped St branch campus did you attend?

No actually I am right. I saved the thread it was so comical. I attended Pitt Greensburg. I couldn't get into Penn State.

 

[ratking17]

Enjoy your few minutes here before you are banned

 

[depthchartjustice]

Enjoy your few minutes here before you are banned

I know, like I said, Pitt fans are soft.

 

[9nationalchampionships]

You sound creepy!

No actually I am right. I saved the thread it was so comical. I attended Pitt Greensburg. I couldn't get into Penn State.

 

[ratking17]

No you are just trolling which is ok. I enjoy laughing at your comments

 

[Marshall30]

No you are just trolling which is ok. I enjoy laughing at your comments

 

[Safety Blitz]

Actually nit wit you are wrong but I will give you another try to figure it out…..

BTW, which prestigious Ped St branch campus did you attend?

Just curious: I took courses at both Pitt-Bradford and Pitt-Titusville back in the day. Is there some sort of issue with that?

 

[9nationalchampionships]

Just like a nit wit to not comprehend! I said Ped St branch campus since there are 25-30 across the state! You trolling?

Just curious: I took courses at both Pitt-Bradford and Pitt-Titusville back in the day. Is there some sort of issue with that?

 

[Safety Blitz]

Just like a nit wit to not comprehend! I said Ped St branch campus since there are 25-30 across the state! You trolling?

Nope. Not trolling at all. I took courses at those Pitt schools. One of my kids attended PSU-Behrend so she could play two DIII sports for a couple years. Worked out well for all of us. I don't understand your reference to branch campus. Is there some issue?

 

[KiwiJeff]

Also, they don't care about Pitt but a new thread is started every other day.

Yeah, we don't have daily PSU posts here, and we don't care about them either.

 

[rpost3]

Nope. Not trolling at all. I took courses at those Pitt schools. One of my kids attended PSU-Behrend so she could play two DIII sports for a couple years. Worked out well for all of us. I don't understand your reference to branch campus. Is there some issue?

Well there's about 60 PSU branches, nearly all are tied for having the lowest entrance standards among PA schools, and then the students are funneled to main campus.

Pitt doesn't do that, which is why PSU fills the stadium and churns out so many grads and Pitt doesn't. Not hard to fill your stadium when you print diplomas for anyone willing to pay for one.

 

[9nationalchampionships]

I think it is common knowledge the quality of education across the Ped St branch campuses are below the main campus, yet the diplomas all read The Ped St….U. This is understandable given the diploma mill mentality.

I have heard good things about Behrend and know of someone who went there for 2 years until he could transfer to main.

Nope. Not trolling at all. I took courses at those Pitt schools. One of my kids attended PSU-Behrend so she could play two DIII sports for a couple years. Worked out well for all of us. I don't understand your reference to branch campus. Is there some issue?