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Mens Soccer-let’s just win it.

If Stanford hangs on and wins (they are up 2-1 in the 66th) there will be seven ACC teams in the Sweet 16.

ACC 7: Pitt, Stanford, Clemson, Wake, SMU, NC State, Virginia
Big10 2: Ohio State, Indiana
Summit 2: Denver, Kansas City
Atlantic10 2: UMass, Dayton
Sun Belt 1: Marshall
West Coast 1: San Diego
America East 1: Vermont

utter domination by the ACC.

of course, somehow, indiana always finds a way to pull out their best performances at this point in the season. but we've got a dream scenario to get to the final 4.
 
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I was hoping for Missouri State to beat Kansas City, but this bracket is almost a best case scenario for getting to the College Cup. Gilman has to sit out the next match because of the red card, and he is our best defender, but. We still should be good enough to win.

Stanford won on PKs, so 7 ACC schools in final 16.
 
I was hoping for Missouri State to beat Kansas City, but this bracket is almost a best case scenario for getting to the College Cup. Gilman has to sit out the next match because of the red card, and he is our best defender, but. We still should be good enough to win.

Stanford won on PKs, so 7 ACC schools in final 16.
Hoping for 6 in the final 8. Too bad wake and Clemson play each other. If we can get through to the round of 8, getting Gilman back will give us a shot in the arm and will get us to the college cup. There we win at least one game. I’m feeling it.
 
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That was horseshit! You can’t call that. An entire season these teams play and it could potentially come down to a poor ref decision

That was such a bizarre play because it didn't appear that Gilman made any contact at all with the Cornell player. The Cornell player jumped over him. So, I have several questions:

1. Can a foul be called if no contact was made? Is that part reviewable? The ref looked at the monitor. Could he say "well, Gilman never touched the player, no foul?"

2. Even if no contact was made, can a foul or obstruction be called for impeding the Cornell player's path with that slide?

3. Forget the first 2. Was the 🟥 given for the excessive foul or a denial of an obvious goal scoring opportunity? The foul wasnt excessive (see 1 and 2) and the player wasnt exactly 1 on 1 with the keeper.
 
Kansas City scored two second half goals to upset number 15 Missouri State, 2-1.

We get Kansas City next, and if we win we get the winner of Vermont and San Diego.

Have to beat 3 unseeded teams at home to get to Cary. The soccer gods are finally with us?

I didnt expect Cornell to be as good as they were. They were outplaying us even before the card and were within a few centimeters of their goal being allowed to stand.

This tournament is always a complete toss-up.
 
That was such a bizarre play because it didn't appear that Gilman made any contact at all with the Cornell player. The Cornell player jumped over him. So, I have several questions:

1. Can a foul be called if no contact was made? Is that part reviewable? The ref looked at the monitor. Could he say "well, Gilman never touched the player, no foul?"

2. Even if no contact was made, can a foul or obstruction be called for impeding the Cornell player's path with that slide?

3. Forget the first 2. Was the 🟥 given for the excessive foul or a denial of an obvious goal scoring opportunity? The foul wasnt excessive (see 1 and 2) and the player wasnt exactly 1 on 1 with the keeper.
No contact should equal no foul.
That was such a bizarre play because it didn't appear that Gilman made any contact at all with the Cornell player. The Cornell player jumped over him. So, I have several questions:

1. Can a foul be called if no contact was made? Is that part reviewable? The ref looked at the monitor. Could he say "well, Gilman never touched the player, no foul?"

2. Even if no contact was made, can a foul or obstruction be called for impeding the Cornell player's path with that slide?

3. Forget the first 2. Was the 🟥 given for the excessive foul or a denial of an obvious goal scoring opportunity? The foul wasnt excessive (see 1 and 2) and the player wasnt exactly 1 on 1 with the keeper.
if you consider the 4 D’s ( required for a send off, this one doesn’t pass the test. 4 checks are required.

(No) Defenders back ❌
Distance to goal ❌
Distance from ball ✅
Direction of Play ✅

Only 2 of the D’s were true and all 4 need to be true for a Red Card. In other words it wasn’t even close to being a Red and for the ref to review it and let it stand was ridiculous.
 
No contact should equal no foul.

if you consider the 4 D’s ( required for a send off, this one doesn’t pass the test. 4 checks are required.

(No) Defenders back ❌
Distance to goal ❌
Distance from ball ✅
Direction of Play ✅

Only 2 of the D’s were true and all 4 need to be true for a Red Card. In other words it wasn’t even close to being a Red and for the ref to review it and let it stand was ridiculous.

Should it even have been a foul at all? I didn't think Gilman made any contact at all? Is there some weird soccer rule that I dont know about like you cant impede his path without playing the ball like obstruction?
 
Should it even have been a foul at all? I didn't think Gilman made any contact at all? Is there some weird soccer rule that I dont know about like you cant impede his path without playing the ball like obstruction?
Not at all because obstruction does not occur when both players are in proximity of the ball. Furthermore Gilman made a play on the ball but missed the ball. If there was contact then it’s an obvious yellow card infraction. But obstruction doesn’t even come into play in this situation. And certainly not red.

As far as contact, I don’t even know. I wasn’t watching for that as I assumed there was contact, otherwise why give the red? What I was focusing on was whether he got ball which he didn’t so I assumed there was a foul. So then my next consideration was if there was another defender back, and there was. Furthermore, the distance away from goal made it as so it was not a DOGSO scenario.

Just a horrific call. I know a couple guys who often ref Pitt games. Both said that it should not have been a red. Easy to say in hindsight. But going to the monitor should have provided enough hindsight to the ref…and he blew it.
 
UMKC is a very sneaky soccer team. They won the season series (2-1) against Summit League rival Denver and split the season series against College Cup teams (UC Santa Barbara, Missouri State).

It’s too bad they’re playing Pitt because I was starting to pull for the local Cinderella story… it’s time we set the clock to midnight.
 
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